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    I live on the opposite side of the world and even I remember when Obama wore a fucking tan suit once more than 10 years ago because Republicans threw such a big tantrum over it.

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        They freaked out because of the choice of leaf in his salad! (Arugula) That obviously makes him the Antichrist.

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            And dijon is the superior mustard. It’s just further proof that some people have more money than sense and just want what they’ve always had.

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              I mean really it’s that some people’s interface with the world is backwards.

              Instead of it being like

              “Facts” -> “Emotions”

              for many people it’s

              “Emotions” -> “Facts”

              They don’t like Obama. Therefore, whatever he did is bad. That’s it. They’re like the common clay of the new west.

              I think Seth Meyers did a thing about how the right wing was freaking out about Biden having ice cream and saying that’s unpresidential and for old people, but like literally the same week Trump had ice cream and it was not a problem.

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        I retired tried dijon after that, and you know what? It’s fuckin awesome.

        Edit: Auto incorrected.

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      That’s such a perfect microcosm of how unabashedly childish they are. I get that most of them are probably racist but HOW can you POSSIBLY care about someone wearing a tan suit? If I was Obama I would have worn it every day for a month just to spite them. It’s the same as when they shat their pants when AOC got like a $300 hair treatment or something. It pisses me off so much.

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    I tried to be patriotic and accept him as president in 2016 until it was quickly obvious that he is a traitor to his country.

    “Patriotism means to stand by the country. It does not mean to stand by the president or any other public official, save exactly to the degree in which he himself stands by the country. It is patriotic to support him insofar as he efficiently serves the country. It is unpatriotic not to oppose him to the exact extent that by inefficiency or otherwise he fails in his duty to stand by the country.”

    –Teddy Roosevelt

    Every true patriot should stand opposed to trump.

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    “We” as in Republicans? Absolutely not true.

    In my circle, the outspoken Republicans were absolutely convinced that “Hussein Obama” was a radical, socialist, communist, muslim foreigner who had illegally become president because he was the anti-Christ. He was here to kill the babies and white people and he destroyed the country. Practically everything was Obama’s fault such that it sparked the “Thanks, Obama” sarcastic meme. He couldn’t do anything right. Employment numbers down? Obama did it. Employment numbers up? Obama is lying about it, they’re actually down. Osama Bin Laden killed? That makes everything worse, but also, there’s no proof it was actually him.

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          “If you have a spicy mustard, dijon or something like that.”

          I like a nice yellow mustard too but dijon is clearly superior, imagine the outrage if he’d said “gimme that spicy brown” it would’ve been interpreted as some sort of SecretMuslimAntiChristPresident code.

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            I just meant to gatekeep spicy mustards, which dijon is clearly not. It IS superior to a lot of other mustards because it has more flavour, but it’s pretty mild compared to something like Põltsamaa Kange which will make you cry if you apply it the way you’d use dijon.

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    My high school and early college was during the W. Bush years. I hated him, and around that time is when I got political, active, and told my (Republican) parents that I was a proud Libertarian! (Look, I’ve learned a lot over the years, and Libertarians used to pretend to be a little more progressive.)

    My parents hated that, and constantly gave me the “you may not like him but he’s your president too and you have to respect the office!” The first time he complained about Obama (hours after the election), I broke that one out and turned it around. And they realized their hypocrisy immediately becoming gay communists decided that the rule was stupid, actually, and that it turns out you don’t have to respect the office when you dont want to!

    What bothers me so much more than their stated political views is the realization that they never actually had reasoned, considered views to begin with. They emotionally select things that seem directly beneficial to themselves. And then lie about their beliefs because they know they’re selfish and indefensible.

    They’re still republicans but I’m an anarchist who no longer respects any presidents! Funny where a difference in fundamental values will lead you.

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      Libertarianism as a concept has a lot to like on a surface level, I was right there with you. They could do something great with the movement, but looking around now you eventually realize that there are really only 2 sides of mainstream libertarianism, ‘Republican, but weed and gay people might be okay sometimes’ and ‘Completely avoid personal accountability, but still punish others when it suits me’.

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        Actual libertarianism is fine. The problem with modern Libertarianism is them trying to shoehorn capitalism into what was a socialist ideology. Its anathema.

        But go look up Joseph Dejacque. The man who coined the term and was the first libertarian. He would have scared the bejesus out of the modern libertarian larpers. Stood against all the things they are for. Fought in the French revolution.

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        Actually libertarianism has a lot going for it, period. Where it falls short is in recognizing that the power wielded by corporations and wealthy people now far surpasses any level which could be self-regulate, or be controlled by “the free market”. So it’s naive in its view of solutions to major issues facing a modern world, but pretty great regarding its interpretations of liberty, and the role of government in people’s lives.

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      They emotionally select things that seem directly beneficial to themselves. And then lie about their beliefs because they know they’re selfish and indefensible.

      This is the most infuriating part. We all do it to some extent, but some people really turn it up to 11.

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      but I’m an anarchist who no longer respects any presidents!

      Respect has to be earned not demanded.

      We anarchists :)

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    Fox News gave Trump the platform to push the “Muslim not born in America BS” do they not remember this?

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    Wait, what?

    They actually have the gall to say they stood behind Obama?

    Obama’s presidency was the exact point at which toxicity and hate became the overt centerpieces of Republican identity - when they stopped even pretending to be motivated by “fiscal conservatism” and instead gave themselves up entirely to just sowing division and spewing hatred.

    Hell - virtually the first thing they did was co-opt the formerly libertarian Tea Party movement, which started out, under Bush, as a series of protests against the Wall Street bailouts - and converted it into a traveling right- wing carnival of hate. That became the entire point of it - after the Republicans took it over, the bailouts were never even mentioned again - all it was was an opportunity for right-wingers to congratulate themselves on how much they hated the left, and especially how much they hated Obama.

    It’s not too much of a stretch to say that everything MAGA has become - all of the division and all of the hatred and all of the lies - traces back specifically to how the hateful bigots among the Republicans reacted to Obama’s presidency and the influence they came to hold over the rest of the party.

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    Why the fuck is this even being entertained? That’s one of trump’s “lawyer” tv hosts. And she’s talking to some right wing rage bait podcaster. Discussing either of their opinions is fucking useless. And OP’s intention in even posting this is likely just to attempt to legitimize one or both them as part of the general discourse. These are scabs on the otherwise festering asshole that is the gop. Fucking move on.

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    Yes, we absolutely have to own when we lose, and we have no finer example of this than MAGA on January 6th, 2021 CE. Because fuck me if that wasn’t an inspirational display of accepting the loss of the presidential election to the democrats. Truly a historic moment for decency, courteousness, virtuousness, stoicism, gallantry, and the actual definition of honor among Americans.

    Better believe I make my nieces and nephews watch my VHS tape of that day every year on its anniversary.

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    This is especially hilarious because so much of this rhetoric came from Trump himself! He basically established his political voice by playing peanut gallery through the whole Obama presidency and pushing birther nonsense.

    We all know that this is a bullshit statement that Republicans trot out to try and shame people into not opposing them, that’s a given. But to use that to defend Trump, who spent all of the Obama presidency doing EXACTLY that loudly and vocally is a special level of irony.

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    In the infamous words yelled at Obama by Joe Wilson: " YOU LIE"

    They were behind him with a knife in his back at every opportunity from his first day in office.

    https://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/the-gops-no-compromise-pledge-044311 :

    Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We’re going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”

    Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”

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    when Obama won we stood behind Obama

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

    SURE!

    Show me a SINGLE Fox news or oan clip where they are behind Obama. Doesn’t even need to praise him just… you know… Just one clip where they are not trying to punch him in the nose.

    Just one.

    Show me a single Republican governor or senator who actually supportes Obama…

    Who me one good Obama initiative that wasn’t burned to the ground because Republicans just couldn’t letmovama have a single win because better let Americans suffer than let Democrats have a win. These idiots are petty, small, vengeful and egocentric and have not once given a single fuck about anyone or anything if it wasn’t theirs.

    Fuck these idiots

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    WE STOOD BEHIND OBAMA??? BITCH, TURTLE MCFUCKFACE SAID, AS SOON AS OBAMA WAS ELECTED, THAT HIS #1 PRIORITY WAS ENSURING OBAMA DIDN’T GET A SECOND TERM!!

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    I told a story about how one of the only time I stood up to my awful mother was about this very thing.

    I spent time complaining about Bush, and my mother would always whine that you “have” to support the president.

    The minute Obama won, she came to me parroting some sort of Fox nonsense, and I engaged her for a while before realizing, “You have to support the president!” She pointed out that I didn’t blindly support Bush, and I answered that I believe it’s the job of all citizens to question their government (as I openly criticized Obama many times), but she believed you have to “support the president,” so when she didn’t, she was a hypocrite.

    One of the few times I pushed back, and one of the few times she was actually silenced by logic. A memory I hold dear.