Ah see you said “pregnancy” which one o’ them woman things and see we just don’t got the time and energy to be spending on that stuff. /s

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Complain all you want, I’m completely right. I gave a good explanation both addressing the fine motorskills thing that everyone else was actually talking about and I even took time out to validate your concern about sanitation by explaining that gloves actually don’t help all that much in many situations.

You were the first person to bring up sanitation based on a misunderstanding of the other person’s comment and then ignored every effort to rectify that mistake in order to be mad about it.

Look, you’re in pretty deep now and I don’t expect you to suddenly turn around and go “oh, my bad.” That’s fine, I get it, just put an effort into avoiding it in the future and we’re all chill.

Having low standards for ourselves just because they’re mean and stupid is lazy and sad. There are a trillion things that we can point to about these wretched people that don’t require even the slightest bit of a reach. They’re brain-dead because it’s literally required to adhere to that entire ideology, what would your excuse be?

“Man loses his argument and throws a tantrum, more at a 11”

Your friend is a fucking psychopath and I can’t imagine how you’re still friends with them. I know it’s only one thing we’re seeing from your comment but I don’t think there’s much one can do to redeem “doesn’t have the barest consideration for strangers or their lives”.

Yikes.

Lemmy is a niche community with many of the people coming from being actuve Reddit users. That’s not inherently a bad thing but you can see how those things all apply more and more filters until the percentage of broken incels increases up to and beyond a certain point.

You not understanding Fiivemacs point and visciously ignoring my entire explanation on it is really just telling me you’re far too up your own ass for any kind of reasonable conversation.

I’m spoon-feeding this to you and you’re still not getting it. Credit goes elsewhere but “we seem to have reached the limit of your comprehension”.

I definitely see that too, which is why I’m aaying I’m not 100% confident. Man’s insane and I wouldn’t put hallucinations or a broken memory past him.

Anyway, I don’t want to get too involved in defending that shitheel so I’ll leave my thoughts there.

Ok I’m gunna be thay guy:

In the context of what we’re given in the article he could have very well been talking about the people at home and how mad they are about him(and all of his obvious lying) being corrected. He does know now, well after the debate ended, that the MAGA losers are foaming at the mouth over this.

So he’s probably not imagining an audience that wasn’t there but I’m still not ready to be 100% confident in that.

Look I know these threads are wack when we get to deep and memory fails even the best of us, it’s fine.

1. Fiivemacs asked about why no gloves.
2. You said they needed the fine motor skills
3. Fiivemacs agreed with you, citing the kitchen thing(and by extention how they hamper fine motor skills.
4. You made it about sanitation, didn’t want to be corrected, and then asked why we were all talking about sanitation.

That’s all there is to it.

You literally brought it up. I even explained how the other person was not talking about sanitation so that it was clear that it was you who did so. I understood them the first time just fine.

You’re being, like, turbo-stupid right now. Cut it out.

Actually not wearing gloves and washing your hands regularly is, I believe, generally bettee for sanitation. There’s a lot of false confidence and shit with gloves, and they cost money and are technically a limited resource. You should always have them on hand, especially for if you get cut and need to wear a bandaid, but washing your hands as needed is totally fine.

And as it relates to this conversation they have a point in that gloves fucking suck to wear. They’re weirdly sticky and also even tight ones are like wearing loose skin and it just kinda sucks. Again, super great to have around and they can be awesome for some tasks where you just do not want to have to do anything more than removing the glove and rinsing, but the point stands.

That sometimes works, but sometimes the right way is not immediately comfortable so people so stuff that seems right and hurt themselves. Sometimes the thing that seemed correct initially was only because of a lack of deeper understanding and an ignorance of the knowledge of those who have already made the mistakes.

I dance, play instruments, drive cars, and do a whole lot of other things where the immediately comfortable thing is so often one of the best ways to develop a massively limiting habit that is a huge pain to get away from once you realize how badly it’s holding you back.

It’s a case-by-case basis, of course, but simply “the best is what you’re most comfortable with” does not have near the nuance it needs to not be abused. It is great advice for people once they have built up a strong base of knowledge, and until then they need to get over it and try things.

Something about god’s holding out to see if Trump wins because he’s not sure wait hold on…

It would be nice to make them say it, though. Every little bit counts!

…right.

Are you, like, ok?

I said that monogamy can hide issues, and that people are totally able to be emotionally intelligent and secure while preferring to be monogamous. You’re not so good at this “reading” thing, are ya?

And ya know what, we’ve seen plenty of examples of people being pretty shitty, on purpose or not, and could really use people getting better. There are a LOT of people who support Donald Trump, are we going to argue that sheer numbers makes them correct?

So, yea, we do have a lot to fix. Sticking our heads in the sand and pretending nothing is wrong isn’t a solution, you coward.

I’m countering your anecdotal evidence with my own, and between us I’m not the one trying to limit people to one or the other.

You got some shit to work through that we won’t fix today but I hope you get to it eventually, genuinely.

You’re really dodging my entire point here. You’re trying to use generic, anecdotal “evidence” to tell individuals that they shouldn’t expect something and should just do it your way.

And I’ve seen plenty of my actual friends go into them being clear about it from the start, communicating fully, and everyone party to it also knowing that a relationship ending naturally is not “falling apart”.

Yes, monogamy is simple and doesn’t require near the same levels of trust and communication(though it fuckin’ should). As a general statement we’re all pretty emotionally stunted and people trying something like that out without the skills to pay the bills are going to have a bad time. On an individual level there are absolutely people who can, and do, handle it really well. All the people I know who participate in open relationships are very emotionally intelligent, honest, and understanding people so it’s no small wonder that they can hack it where others struggle.

No one is asking you to be in an open relationship and it’s totally valid to not want to be in one. You can be all those nice things I mentioned and still prefer monogamy, too.

That’s what you took from that? Ok, bud.