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I’ve been a loyal Trump supporter since 2016.

I lost a job, friendships, been smeared online, doxxed, and pressed charges on people who’ve stalked and harassed me for supporting him.

If Trump doesn’t want my support, because I care about the Epstein Files, then I’m done.

Bye.

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      3 months ago

      To vote for this idiot you must be an idiot. Yes, everyone who is ok with trump is idiot.

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      Imagine losing your own family because they chose to do that.

      Oh wait, I don’t have to, went no contact years ago.

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      To be fair he wasn’t the star of the apprentice he’s just the loudest asshole willing to brag about being on a dumb TV show.

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        And he was never really “the star”. Everyone who watched that show identified him as the villain. They watched to see how creepy and douchey he would be.

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      This made me think, in an alternate universe, which already semi-famous TV personality from 20ish years ago would the worst segment of a population worship?

      That dog whisperer guy?

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          On a random note, like 10 years ago one of my friends in Colorado (where Dog the Bounty Hunter is from) made a post on a forum trash talking Dog the Bounty Hunter and his wife.

          Shortly as afterwards a signed copy of Dog the Bounty Hunters book appeared on my friend’s doorstep that said something like:

          [My friend’s real name] - heard you’re a fan. I’ll catch you next time

          I should point out, my friend posted online using a user name and not his real name. It’s possible that he leaked his real name at some point?

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            A reality star bounty hunter exhibiting stalker behavior towards people he doesn’t like? That honestly makes so much sense. He deserves the shit talking

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        By being a cunt about it every hour of every day with coworkers and customers.

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          Yeah, you don’t get fired for supporting a political party, you get fired for bringing it up constantly and being an ass.

          If you asked my coworkers they wouldn’t know my political views.

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          3 months ago

          Ah, so the same reason christians are “persecuted for their beliefs”.

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            "So are you being persecuted for believing that Jesus was the son of God? No? How about that Jesus sacrificed himself for humanity? Still no? That you should love thy neighbor as you love thyself? Not that either huh?

            I wonder what it could be…"

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        They identify with a political group who’s primary recognizable characteristics are publicly wearing an extremely identifiable bright red hat and actively mocking and trolling their perceived opponents even in completely fictitious situations.

        It’s not much of a leap to say they acted similarly at work and got fired for being an asshole constantly.

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          They identify with a political group who’s primary recognizable characteristics are publicly wearing an extremely identifiable bright red hat and actively mocking and trolling their perceived opponents even in completely fictitious situations.

          This could also apply to a party built entirely around the Limp Bizkit song “Hot Dog,” I believe.

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        I’ve worked with several people that got fired in the last 8 years who claim it was their politics.

        True, they all were hard right republicans with Trump/MAGA bumper stickers.

        But they all got fired because of their behavior and misconduct. They are just claiming they lost their job for being Trump supporters because suddenly that means it’s not their fault and they were persecuted for beliefs and identify, not something they actually did wrong. Nobody really gave a shit about their politics and bumper stickers. Zero self awareness among this crowd; claim the victim cause of who they were then immediately turn around and spew the most foul rhetoric I’ve ever heard about LBGT youth.

    • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      +1.

      Even if someone wholesome (Mamdani?) somehow took over the Democrats, or any cool party, I would never be “loyal” to them.

      Maybe this is my old millennial ass shaking my fist, but I don’t get why folks are loyal to influencers. Loyalty should be two way and reciprocal, to friends and family one knows personally, not asymmetrically to someone who makes a living from thousands following them.

      Respect and admiration? Fine. But this guy’s a poster child for why loyalty is too far. After all, what does Trump think of him?

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        Seeing “old millennial ass” just seems so wrong.

        We’re the young generation, right? We’re like, 25 at most. Right?

        I’m 40. Oh my god. I need a Camaro and a broccoli haircut so I can fit in with the hip crowd. Broccoli hair is still a thing right? Haha

        Man it goes so fast.

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              At least you still have hair! I started shaving my head a few years ago at 35. Still haven’t gotten used to it, but I think it looks better than when it was thinning out in the front and getting stringy.

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                Not only am I blessed to have a full head of hair, but my younger brother has always been so much more handsome than me. Girls clawed to get to him, they fought to get to him.

                It was so funny the other night when I was on a video call with him and his wife, and I don’t even remember the comment that I made, but she pointed out that he was bald, and I had a full head of hair and I nearly lost it.

                I’m sorry that probably hurts you. It’s just a win for me, it was always so fucking easy for him. Now he’s bald and mad about it, and here I am with a beautiful lion’s mane.

                He could read this comment easily, he knows all of my usernames and shit online.

                So hey, I have a full head of hair asshole. Where’s your hair?

                It’s so crazy though, everything I ever did, he did it better. Just across the board entirely. Still to this day, shit I busted my ass on for 25 years. He’s doing it better with no effort.

                So all I really have is my hair. He has it all, the lucky bastard. It’s only right that he went bald. Nobody should be able to have it all.

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                  Ehhh I made it longer than all the other males on my moms side. They all went bald in their mid 20s. Gotta hurt.

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          Nah bro. We fucking pogslammed right into middle age. Our TalkBoys are rapidly approaching hearing aids. Our tamagachis are now our actual children.

          We old brother.

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          (hehe), sure brother, you’re still young. ::cracks open a beer and hands it to you:: have a seat in this lawn chair next to Gen X and tell us about it.

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      I love Bernie. While I don’t agree with him on everything, he’s consistently been on the moral right side of most issues. Here he is being arrested for protesting segregation in 1963:

      However. If he did even 1% of the things Trump did, I would call him out for it, demand he do better, and support his primary challengers if not. Unconditional loyalty to a politician doesn’t keep them in check, and actually harms us all…

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        Agreed. I like Bernie and AOC not because I always agree with them but because they both seem to be trying to make things better.

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        Do you fly a Bernie flag or constantly wear a Bernie hat, or constantly spout Bernie beliefs?

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          I haven’t seen a single flag or hat in months but those people still live among us.

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      Being loyal to anyone who doesn’t know your name personally is borderline insane.

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        I can vaguely imagine soldiers being loyal to a general in a war. If a general always seems to find a way to win, even against the odds, I can picture his soldiers being willing to… well not to die for him, but the opposite. I can imagine them being fiercely loyal and trying to protect him because he’s making sure they don’t die.

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          You basically plucked the thought from my head as to why I added ‘borderline’ to that sentence. Yes, in a desperate situation, it’s not insane to glom on to the safest option available.

          But war has never been a great place for being rife with sane options, it’s almost always created by one or more people being insane in the first place and making it their neighbors’ problem.

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      Yeah, describing yourself as a “loyal” politician supporter basically means you’ll ignore whatever wrong doing they do and root for your “team”.

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      I feel like that ought to extend to everybody. I’m “loyal” only to the acts/values I’m on board with, and even then, not really, because I’m always open to changing my mind based on new information.

      The concept of sticking with someone out of loyalty, regardless of who they are, after they’ve done something horrible, makes no sense to me, personally.

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      Trump literally told them that he will not need them after this again. No, he does not want or care for their support!

      “In four years, You don’t have to vote again. We’ll have it fixed so good. You’re not going to have to vote.”

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      The closest I could say to being loyal would be AOC and Bernie, since I agree with most of their political stances and the things I do disagree with them on is mostly what I consider non-issues. But I’m definitely not running around waving their flag or wearing a big dumb hat to label myself, and certainly not vehemently defending any political blunder they might make.

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      I met that vampiric looking fantastic bastard and he signed my American Football. Antiques Roadshow in 20 years so I can retire.

      Or maybe not.

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    The part that chaps my ass about this is… The damage is already done. Trump can not get voted in again. He’s on his second term, of two max.

    So all of this shit is too little too late. You fucked up. You fucked everything up. And now you realize the guy is a piece of shit because he won’t release a list of rich people who are paedophiles and rapists? A list he’s very likely to be on?

    This is the line?

    Holy shit. Of all the terrible stuff he said he would do, and all of the terrible stuff he actually has done… And you fucks put him in the office again.

    And this is the point where you finally stop supporting him?

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      What’s stopping him from doing a Nayib Bukele and sending the National Guard to Congress to force through legislation?

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      Honestly, I’m a bit relieved at the current situation, because I wasn’t nearly as certain he was done. With incidents like January 6th, all the claims of voter fraud, his clear abuse of systems like presidential pardons and executive orders, I really thought Trump had a genuine chance of overturning the 2-term limit and twisting the US into a bona fide dictatorship.

      I’m relieved to see his astounding incompetence finally reaping results in his polling numbers again and again, because it’s breaking the spell he seemed to have over half the country. Hell, it’s even breaking the allure of fascism in the elections of other countries at this point. His gross incompetence during this presidency is single-handedly moving the whole world a little more to the left.

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        I really thought Trump had a genuine chance of overturning the 2-term limit and twisting the US into a bona fide dictatorship.

        Realistically speaking, whatever chance he has had never lied with a legal election result. He was going to have to go against the constitution in a pretty blatant way anyway. So if he ever had a shot at it, he still does. Popular support no longer matters that much one way or the other, either he’s out in 2028 because he follows the rules of the democracy no matter how popular he is, or he just carries on against the constitution, which doesn’t need popular support anyway.

        Still room for him to be melodramatic about something or another and declare a bogus national crisis that requires suspending elections and such. He’s declared everything an emergency to claim he has various authority, he doesn’t have to stop short of the elections themselves.

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        You overestimate his supporters long term memory. You’re still only 6 months in, still 3.5 years left to go. Don’t count your chickens before they hatch.

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        Who would have thought the way to make the world better would be to elect the worst of the republicans, not that other republicans are much better.

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          First of, Trump is not a Republican. He is Trump. Secondly, Trump has had since his first mandate a nefarious effect in politics worldwide, and he is in part why the far-right and nationalistic movements across the globe, are also rising, through the spread of misinformation on the Internet, that transcend US borders. While I was very well aware that there was a thing like anti-vaxxers in the US, that was never a problem here in Europe, and the rise of misinformation, with the pandemic, and with Trump and the MAGA movement, that became a thing now here, along with other conspiracies on Facebook, like the “Moon landing being a staged hoax”. Retired boomers, that have nothing better to do all day, gobble up that shit as if it is ambrosia!

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        I’m relieved to see his astounding incompetence finally reaping results in his polling numbers again and again, because it’s breaking the spell he seemed to have over half the country. Hell, it’s even breaking the allure of fascism in the elections of other countries at this point. His gross incompetence during this presidency is single-handedly moving the whole world a little more to the left.

        I felt this exact way in November of 2020. So I hope you are right because:

        With incidents like January 6th, all the claims of voter fraud, his clear abuse of systems like presidential pardons and executive orders, I really thought Trump had a genuine chance of overturning the 2-term limit and twisting the US into a bona fide dictatorship.

        Jury is still out for me on this. Let’s see how the midterms go. If there is even a whiff of shenanigans, I’ll have real doubts about 2028.

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      At least he has a bottom line, and might think a little more critical next time, maybe. Some people just close their eyes and chant the propaganda.

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      The damage has been done, yes, but we can stop further damage. If MAGA finally turns on him for being a prolific pedo, we can roll the clock back on some of this stuff. I’m afraid they’re going to have to catch him live with his dick in a minor for his base to believe it, though.

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        Can we though? We’ve never seen a sitting US president get thrown out of the job forcibly. Some were under investigation, or indicted, but stepped down voluntarily. The courts didn’t kick them out of the job.

        I do not believe, for a second, that Trump would ever be sensible enough to voluntarily step down. By the time they dragged him through the legal process of ending his term, his term would have ended anyways.

        Even if we started today, the time that he would still be in office, actively harming America and Americans, would not change. We are unable to stop him because there’s simply too much red tape involved; not that you could find someone to charge, and/or prosecute him… Which is a whole other problem.

        The damage is actively being done and getting worse. It will continue to get worse. And the only thing that could bring this insanity to a rapid conclusion is a radical and illegal act against the man himself. Honestly, I don’t expect anyone to be able to “Luigi” Trump.

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        You can’t roll back the loss of 100 years of progress. Especially in the sciences since we’ve already lost a lot of the people, can’t roll back the loss of prestige, or the devaluation of the dollar, at least not easily.

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      A-fucking-men. These people need to know that just because the scales have fallen from their eyes, we will not be welcoming them back to the ranks of civilized society anytime soon. They may be pissed about this, but we’ve come down a long road of atrocities that they either supported or ignored, and they have a LOT to answer for in that regard. Their enthusiastic dismissal of simple human - and American - decency will not be forgotten, and all MAGAs have a long way to go to redeem themselves, which in many cases will be impossible.

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    Well bye, I guess. Took him 10 years to figure out that voting for the “Punch me in the dick, repeatedly” party wasn’t a great idea.

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    The fear of pedophiles is higher than this guys racism/queerphobia? A win i guess. I welcome every person that stops to support Trump because there are still many who do.

    Like i really god damn hope that this of all things is what breaks his neck. If there is a god, hear our prayer 🙏🙏 (cause i am somewhat doubtful)

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      It’s such a bizarre hill to die on. I only wish I could hinge my entire political life on the gossip around some random celebrity pimp’s murder.

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    This is a cult schism. Epstein is the point of cleavage between the grifters and the grifted. The grifters believe in nothing and would of course accept Trump trying to make the list go away because what they care about is keeping the gravy train going. The grifted, though, really believe in a cabal of powerful people molesting children. And however destructive they have been as a political force, they actually want to end what they think is a terrible ongoing crime. They won’t just accept it being swept under the rug.

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      They won’t just accept it being swept under the rug.

      Lol you say that like magats ever had principles

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      The grifted, though, really believe in a cabal of powerful people molesting children. And however destructive they have been as a political force, they actually want to end what they think is a terrible ongoing crime.

      I think the issue here is they got too close to the truth

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    All that happened to him personally, but it took the Epstein files to finally break him? Don’t tell me it’s not a cult.

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    “I was a gigantic fucking idiot. I still am a gigantic fucking idiot and will absolutely continue to be said gigantic fucking idiot; but I was a gigantic fucking idiot.”

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    I googled this guy to see if this story was in any way significant, and his other posts are so Poe’s Law batshit that I have no idea which of them are serious and which aren’t.

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      Sums up most of MAGA. At this point there are so many conflicting narratives that these people literally have no idea what to believe. They lack the ability to fact check anything or think critically. So in the absence of critical thought, they do the only thing they know which is to parrot the party line and try to fit in with their other MAGAts.

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      Is this supposed to be an insult? It kind of reads like one, but setting aside any questions of IQs validity, it is laid out such that 100 is average.

      So what you’re saying essentially is that the nation’s average IQ is average, which is not an insult in my book.

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        in agreement with the validity of all your points, but counterpoint: for the supposed greatest nation on earth, an IQ below average is kind of embarassing. doesn’t matter how much below - it’s below average for the greatest nation. obviously that’s a subjective qualification, but imo those are mutually exclusive statements.