This should be on a billboard somewhere for Apple’s next ad.
It’s because the sender is someone currently in our government or one of its billionaire owners.
Everything points to this - very clearly, in fact, even though millions of documents have been redacted or withheld entirely for the very same reason, which is also a flagrant violation of the law.
The question that has been asked here, however, is how anyone can be okay with this. You answer the question of why a criminal regime in a corrupt system that not only allows these crimes but makes them possible in the first place protects one of the perpetrators, one of their own depraved gang.
Your answer raises the same initial question: How can anyone accept that serious criminals, including numerous child molesters, have been getting away with the most heinous crimes with impunity for decades? How can anyone come to terms with the fact that their own law enforcement agencies are so corrupt that they do not fight organized crime, but are actually used to facilitate it? How can anyone be okay with that?
They’ve decided they are either protecting the offender or lying about being them.
Best to assume it’s all of them until proven otherwise.
Me: “I need to use a zero-access encrypted email accessible through Tor so the google doesn’t know I just bought a new dragon ball coffee cup”
The elites:
"from: irapechildren@gmail.com To: everybody Yooooo, raping little children is soooooo coooooool
well yeah. the law protects but does not bind them. it does bind us, but without protecting us
If you are rich enough to be above the law, you no longer need to be careful.
Whats (almost) funny is that most of these emails show up twice, from the sender and again from the receiver, but they always censored the sender so we might be able to find the other version with the name intact.
Also, they failed to censor the names of the victims, as illustrated in the newest CoffeeZilla video.
It appears 9 times in the dataset by my count and it looks like it’s redacted in all 9.
There is a 10th document where the search term “little naughty” appears, that the name of the sender appears. https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet 9/EFTA00946722.pdf
Sultan Bin Sulayem for those that don’t want to read another gross email.
Thanks, I need a shower.
If it’s redacted it’s Trump. If they don’t like that they can prove it
I think there’s a legal concept, that if you fail to provide information in the Discovery process, it must be assumed that said information is incriminating.
so this,
every redacted perpetrator is Trump, until proven otherwise
Is anyone reading these emails who isn’t already convinced Trump is a pedophile?
The American people are going to have to become a mob to get any justice at all. It wont be good justice, or fair, or kind, or accurate, but it’s sad that even as terrible as it would be, it’s the only justice this system is capable of. Unfortunately, 30% of America is fine with raping children. Why should Americans even be allowed in other countries at all? Seems like they are a serious risk.
Please point me to the mob sign-up sheet
It’s where you left your courage.
So, to your mind, my wanting to join the rebellion mob is an indicator of…cowardice? Do you think at all before you type stuff, or is it like a fugue state you are in or something?
Im gonna give the poster the benefit of the doubt and say they were trying to make a joke: You’re a coward for asking to join the mob, instead of just becoming one.
Real men die one at a time in vain.
30% of America is fine with raping children.
No. We are not. And this doesn’t even play to the worst of the MAGA base: Trump brought this on himself by projecting pedophilia and pedophiles in power as something that, if elected, he was going to uncover.
In other, simpler words, decent folk everywhere are ALL upset about it, including those who voted for the pedo-in-chief.
What you just said wasn’t anti-American, though I’m sure you think it works that way. It’s really just anti-decency, in the exact same way Trump’s own slurs tend to be. “They’re eating the dogs.” “Americans are fine with raping children.”
See how that works? It’s the exact same noise, to the exact same end.
And to prove it further you encourage mobs. We don’t need mobs. We have Minneapolis and Minnesota beating ICE back every day, with a courage that you can’t even credit, in a way that has brought the world’s attention to the extreme wrongs being done there.
Look more closely at the Epstein files – it is the community you are fouling with your propaganda, after all – and notice what the Epstein files all have in common: the rich and powerful, across every border. This particular thread is highlighting Sultan Bin Sulayem, but you’re skipping right over that to whine about what Americans aren’t doing for you and trot out the exact same kind of nationalist slur you claim to be against.
Pick a side, but you’re not against the Epstein class: you sound exactly like them.
What’s the child rapist president’s approval rating right now? 42%. He’s a child rapist, murderer, liar, criminal and pants shitter and his approval rating is 43 fucking percent. So saying 30% was generous.
But that’s not what you claimed.
30% of America is fine with raping children.
Your words, not mine.
Pedophilia was not on the ballot, so votes alone don’t prove your claim. But you go ahead. Any source.
Do it for the survivors who are also reading your vile claim. Or maybe you think Haley Robson is also fine with raping children, since she is both a Trump voter and an Epstein survivor, and she’s not alone. Or maybe MTG, who is in fact a screaming howler monkey as well as a sexual assault survivor, but without whom none of us would now be seeing any of these files. And so forth. The list is long.
Go ahead. Prove your “30% of America is fine with raping children.”
30 percent are fine with a president who does
Trump is a child rapist. He was elected twice to the presidency. His current approval rating is 42%, after everything he’s done. How do you reconcile his continued support despite his child raping, if not as approval of his actions? He raped children and Americans still support him as president, 42% of Americans. That looks to me like 42% of Americans are fine with child rape.
Where is your evidence that shows more than 70% of Americans disapprove of a child raping president? How are these two things reconciled if Americans don’t approve but are also shown to approve?
It is, of course, absolutely true that the vast majority of US citizens are decent people. However, they are represented by an unscrupulous criminal regime whose misdeeds do not even stop at protecting the obviously numerous child abusers in the ranks of the mafia-like organization that constitutes the administration - far from it.
You have to understand that the world is furious and also holds US citizens responsible, because after all, it is their elected representatives who are obviously guilty of the most heinous crimes and get away with all of this completely unpunished, even though it is perfectly obvious what monsters they are.
This is attributable to the frustration that it is not only US citizens who suffer from the criminal syndicate that the US regime represents and which, in the person of the orange rapist at its head, even openly displays it’s disgusting grimace of absolute malice these days. The fact is that other countries also suffer from their crimes. However, people in other countries can do nothing about it except turn away from the US in disgust.
It is, of course, sad how unreflective this sometimes is, but it is simply the logical consequence of the actions of the US regime.
I fear that as long as decent people in the US do not organize themselves and finally hold the criminals at the top of their system accountable, US citizens will have to accept the accusation that they are allowing the most heinous of all crimes to happen.
If they do not act themselves, it will always continue this way, because the Epstein case shows that neither politicians, nor the legal system, nor law enforcement agencies can be expected to hold those responsible to account - on the contrary: the entire system is obviously so infiltrated that it serves unscrupulous criminals rather than citizens.
This should be clear to everyone by now - and that is what comments like the one above are aiming at: for the rest of the world, at least the democratic part, it is simply incomprehensible that more than 300 million Americans are apparently unable to finally rise up against the tyranny of the so-called US elite, who are actually the exact opposite: they are the scum of the US population, who have attained positions of power through a system that depends on greed, unscrupulousness, and inhuman selfishness for success.
It is really time to put a stop to these people and fundamentally dismantle the system they have created to enable their crimes in the first place.
Thank you for your thoughtful reply; I don’t disagree with anything you wrote. But throwing out obviously slanderous falsehoods about “30% of Americans are fine with raping children” isn’t the winning posture some apparently think it is. They seem to think all that is know today was known in November 2024, and it was not, especially not to his followers.
I have added in another comment how sexual assault survivors crossed the aisle to pass EFTA, without which no one would be seeing the files now. Some of Epstein’s survivors are themselves Trump voters: they voted for him because they believed the lies he would do something about it. To assert that they too are “fine with raping children” as children that were raped themselves is dishonorable and beyond revolting, but even when pointed out there are folks still saying it, like doubling down on it will make it more defensible.
And to do so in a community that is built around discussing real crimes against real people, some of whom are here, and for whom there is already a trigger warning in the sidebar, is conscienceless and vile.
Someone else here asked me what I was defending, as though all this comes down to an election choice based on today’s wisdom for yesterday’s ballot and that’s all that should matter to me. I answered them.
Perhaps that reply will help you understand better as well.
To be clear, I don’t give a shit who voted for or against Trump at this point. He’s there. I’m doing my part (in ways I will not discuss online) and I assume others are as well. That’s not for anyone else to question, especially if they’re not even here. In the meantime, do not take real survivors’ pain and torment and use it as a dishonest label and emotive cudgel with which to make cheap ass political points out of a suffering non-survivors cannot possibly understand. That is reprehensible, regardless of where you or anyone else stands on the political spectrum.
Yes, I agree with you: inaccurate generalizations don’t help anyone, and insults even less so - quite the contrary. That’s exactly the kind of mindless nonsense that has helped demagogues like Drump succeed. It only serves to distract attention from the real culprits.
The only thing I wanted to say with my comment is that I can halfway understand why people are frustrated and allow themselves to be led to make such bogus statements. I think you’re absolutely right that it makes much more sense to look forward rather than backward, to put an end to political infighting and to join forces to fight the real enemies, because they are essentially the ones who benefit from discord - it’s their strategy.
The GOP’s approach is a good example of this: since the Tea Party movement under Sarah Palin and then MAGA, this party has developed into an anti-democratic juggernaut: instead of discussion and compromise, it now insists solely on its inhumane hardliner positions, slander, disinformation, etc. - not talking to each other rationally, but merely spreading hatred and hostility.
Unfortunately, this model has also been adopted by right-wing extremist parties in my home country, and they too are unfortunately very successful with it.
Democracy simply cannot function this way, because it requires the exchange of rational arguments and a willingness to cooperate for the benefit of all. With hatred and slander, on the other hand, it is impossible to shape democratic processes for the good of all.
Therefore, baseless accusations and insults are extremely counterproductive.
It is much worse than that. It is a direct form of horizontal hostility, and specifically designed to prevent people from confronting the real enemy:
Horizontal Hostility. Having failed to fight against those in power, people take out their anger and frustrations on each other. It is a lot easier to fight the person sitting next to you than someone in a distant house of parliament or corporate headquarters. And if victory continues to elude them, it’s because their would-be allies are reactionaries, or vanguardists, or dangerous anarchists and vandals. People who are willing to fight back often have more fiery and combative personalities, so such conflict is easy to provoke.
The term “horizontal hostility” was coined by Black intersectionalist feminist and civil rights organizer Florynce Kennedy; she called it “misdirected anger that rightly should be focused on the external causes of oppression.”
Ann Hansen explained to me that this phenomenon is so destructive that intelligence agencies “like CSIS and the RCMP don’t have to spend one cent in our communities, because people spend all their time attacking each other over the little things instead of talking about strategy.”
Michael Albert, writing about what happens to people who encounter a movement for the first time, asks: “Does this person merge into a growing community of people, feel more secure and appreciated, feel a growing sense of personal worth and of contribution to something valuable, and enjoy a sense of accomplishment? . . . Or does this person meet a lot of other people who continually question her motives and behavior, making her feel insecure and constantly criticized?”
From Full Spectrum Resistance: Building Movements and Fighting to Win, page 57, by Aric McBay, available in full on archive.org
So even though I deeply appreciate your position for myself, while you are busy lending these folks your gentle understanding, I will offer my congratulations on the own-goal to all the people taking cheap and dishonest shots at Americans who care enough to address it and fix it, survivors included, because we’re the only ones who can.
No, 30% of Americans (at least) are perfectly fine with it.
Prove it.
Pedophilia was not on the ballot in its own right. There was no tick box next to “Pedophilia” on any American ballot.
People voted for Trump because they thought, however deluded they were, that he’d uncover and take action against pedophile in high places.
But you dispute that, and you claim a 30% approval rate for pedophilia among Americans. So prove it.
what are you talking about? If I told you Candidate A and candidate B are running. Oh, B is a pedophile BTW, you’re acting like a proper response would be “Yeah but is that an election issue?”
If you’re ok voting for the pedophile then you’re… ok voting for a pedophile. the fuck are you defending here anyway?
Two things. Many people who got conned into voting for Trump did so because they thought shit like Pizzagate was real, that he would come in and empty the pedophile swamp, etc. These are people that live in a bubble anyway, and are only just now figuring out that not only is he not going to drain the fucking swamp, he IS the swamp. But that happened last year, when Pam Bondi et al started playing games with binders and redactions and the lies got so self-evident even the bubble of propaganda couldn’t cover it anymore.
Last year. 2025. AFTER the November 2024 election. You are applying today’s knowledge to 2024’s ballots.
In addition, many Trump voters are survivors themselves. Pretty much every girl and most boys that have grown up under the poverty line are either survivors themselves or know one, or more, and that’s where Trump lies pulled strongest.
Two survivors of sexual assault were Republicans that voted for EFTA: Lauren Boebert and MTG. Without them you wouldn’t even be seeing these files.
But there’s something else to consider. Survivors are here, reading these comments. When you use sweeping, libelous language, such as
30% of Americans are fine with raping babies
do you really think that you’re NOT going to trigger someone? Jesus christ, man. These are real people, and some of them are here.
It is demonstrably FALSE that 30% of Americans are in favor of pedophilia; that’s why Pizzagate was a thing and why the pedo-in-chief used it as a dog whistle in his own propaganda. It’s visceral and powerful, and he used it along with all the other false promises he made.
But if you can’t or don’t want to recognize that at the time of the 2024 election he was not known to his followers to be a pedophile, at least recognize that you are taking the very real, lived experiences of people who have endured the very thing you claim to decry, in ways you cannot even begin to imagine, and twisted it around to claim that they are personally in favor of the exact revolting acts that they have to live with EVERY fucking day and night for the rest of their lives.
If that’s you, I can’t change you. You are what you are. Yet no one but pedophiles knowingly voted for a pedophile, 30% of Americans are NOT “fine with raping babies,” and to claim otherwise is just fucking vile.
You are applying today’s knowledge to 2024’s ballots.
this was common knowledge by 2020 lol
These are real people, and some of them are here.
if they’re here and they voted for a pedophile they deserve the shade lol
2016 I’d say.
“if she wasn’t my daughter I’d date her”
“inspecting miss teen USA changing rooms”
“grab her by the pussy”
And so many more
Plus all the assault accusations, from adult and (at the time) minors.
decent folk everywhere are ALL upset about it, including those who voted for the pedo-in-chief.
Of which there are zero.
It should be made known to the administration, that any time a redaction like this occurs, the public should and does imagine the sender to be Donald Trumpedo.
Then he’s successfully protecting his owners.
That was way too coherent for Trump.
No, this sender should be revealed. It may not be Trump at all, but whoever it is should be investigated thoroughly.
Nah, honestly at this point I’m done. Feed whoever wrote this email into a woodchipper. We’re past normal shit at this point.
Fair
The more productive thing for the public to think is “Who is going to prison for contempt of congress for this redaction?”.
I think from now we should assume any reducted name is Donald Trump
I’m sure a lot of other people implicated in the files would love for that to happen. Let’s take down ALL of them.
If we keep assuming it is Trump the hope is they will at least reveal some names to debunk this assumption. Otherwise yeah, it is a whole cesspit of billionaires, politicians and unfortunately artists, scientists, directors, actors etc…
If it works, then it works for me!
That’s what I do, I assume its either Donald or one of his cabinet members or close friends. Either way, he’s a chomo or protecting chomos, and both are about the worst you can be.
It’s either trump, or something more damaging to Republicans than trump.
Or get this, it could be literally anyone including Democrats or other billionaires. This is t an exclusively Republican problem
Do you really think trump’s DOJ is going to censor a democrat’s name? FFS, they tried to pin Mamdani to Epstein because his mom attended one movie premier with Epstein.
Could be, but claiming they’re all Trump will (hopefully) lead to unredactions.
When they said they’re redacting the files to protect the victims, its pedo talk, they believe the pedo’s have a sickness and its the girls taking advantage of them, not the other way around.
They somehow failed to properly censor the nude photos of victims in the files (i.e they redacted them but fucked it up like with first set of files) but DID properly redact the email addresses of several key repeat visitors, one of them thought to be Benjamin Netanyahu.
they believe pedos have a sicknessNo they don’t. They believe they have every right to do what they did and still do. They’re not being respectful from a dubious moral standpoint. They’re fucking lying to protect themselves.
In this case there is no excuse to be saying that the victims are taking advantage of them. This is a system which is designed on abuse of women, teenagers, children and possibly even babies - A whole island designed for this, for rich oligarchs.
Also the story about illnesses doesn’t hold up in the majority of cases as attraction to teenagers is excluded in DSM-5. Of course, there is also evidence of actual children taking part; but even so, it is a meticulously designed system where it was only them doing the abusing.
Also the redactions are done extremely poorly: Clear photos are being referenced of the victims without their informed consent - yet the abusers names are censored.
wtf. in what world do you turn things around like that. Maybe having been groomed and all…? I don’t know
Funny how Apple won’t allow movies to show villains using their products, but will happily add “sent from my iPhone” to pedo mail.
That’s actually a marketing tactic to promote their devices. Actually the scummiesy tactic ever because it takes no effort but caused a lot of anti consumerist practices since this was the first time consumers were pushed with enshittification.
Happening a long time before Apple did this. RIM were doing it before and many freemail providers.
And putting it in movies isn’t a marketing tactic?
Still trying to wrap my head around how at that time and in that context and when so many technology CEOs and celebrity/politically active people seem involved, they were all sending these plain text emails, didn’t bother the least to try to make communication more secure and private
Rich people unfortunately don’t need to fear being prosecuted. They know very well that they are above the law.
Ummm, you realize that all of this came about because a rich guy went to jail, right?
Epstein wasn’t a ‘real’ rich guy, he was an uplifted peasant fall guy. Dude was a fucking teacher until someone made him the designated head of the worldwide child trafficking ring.
LOL you say that like any billionaires are “self made”. He was a billionaire who was closely connected to to elite people around the world. That’s the only reason this is such a scandal.
Most billionaires either inherit obscene wealth or luck into an insane ROI by accident (or both, like Elon Musk)
What I’m saying is Jeffrey Epstein was made a billionaire by other billionaires specifically to be the guy who takes the fall if the shit hits the fan.
Yay, one of 500 went to jail, justice served
Why would they? Laws are for peasants. If you’re a rich rapist, they make you president
I mean none of them will face any real consequences from this because the American public are too lazy and stupid to make them, so why wouldn’t they?
Even among the rich, they’ll call you a paranoid weirdo.
Assuming it was the state-backed honeypot it seems to be, plus the fact that the rich don’t face consequences unless they turn on their own kind, that explains most of the wide-reaching clientele and the lack of concern for hiding it.
Funny how everyone made plans on what day to head to the island yet none of them ever went. None have been on the plane and none have been to the island? lol Then they all said he’s a sick degenerate, they are disgusted, and they cut off all ties. They were sorry for their poor judgement and/or weren’t aware of his past but they feel for the woman and children that were hurt on those occasions that they weren’t there. lol They all said that… they must have the same lawyer.
Alan Dershowitz has entered the chat
Plausible, given the distance between characters
Bonesaw?
There is one challenge here, emails are really easily spoofable. They should release all the header information of these emails, so that they could be verified. FBI probably have them, but they won’t release those because they would show that Don is a pedo.
Well, the only one you have to spoof to incriminate is already redacted, so there’s not really a ‘spoof’ concern to worry about unless that is unredacted.
Receiving such an email doesn’t have to be a spoof. See typical spam folder of anyone for all sorts of crazy implications about the recipient.
However, the date is more reliable and back in 2014, nearly no one would be motivated to fake that sort of email toward Epstein. That was before his whole situation was popularly known. The people aware of it were largely in on it that early on.
Epstein was first arrested 2006 and convicted on 2008, anyone association with him after that KNEW him being a sex offender.
The key word being those that knew him. He wasn’t famous for things so strangers wouldn’t have done that, and I think if this were a fake email, then sending it to a high profile person would be more of a stranger activity than an associate.
I don’t think an Epstein associate would send a fake email like that, as it would be more likely to blow back on them than implicate Epstein any further than he was already implicated.
So yeah, this email seems a credible thing and consistent with Epstein. Also I would not suspect a fake header if we knew the sender, so I’d think the sender could be presumed not to be a victim of spoofed headers too.
He wasn’t famous for things so strangers wouldn’t have done that
He was famous for throwing raunchy sex parties with underaged European models.
That was his entire roll in his social network.
It’s like showing up in the black book of the DC Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey and saying “I didn’t know she was a pimp”. That’s literally the only reason you would associate with the person.
Norm fucking Finklestein responds to Epstein on his perversion to his face, ffs.
I’m not saying that his activities were completely unknown, just that some internet rando wouldn’t even recognize his name back then. I think that a faked email could only be a likely scenario if we were talking about after everyone knew who he was and what he did.
So the ‘oh watch out, that 2014 Epstein email might have been faked/forged’ is a relatively small likelihood to bother assuming, and totally beside the point since they censored the ‘from’ in that email and the message didn’t indicate previously unknown behavior on Epstein’s part.
The email etiquette of these people is appalling. It’s not an IM chat client. Write proper emails you freaks.
Dear Madam or Sir,
But why?
Kindest Regards
