Was recently banned from a whole bunch of DB0 communities for, as best as I can gather, downvoting once when I viewed by All (potentially accidentally while scrolling).
Important notes:
- I don’t use scripts.
- I don’t mass-downvote Communities. If I see a post I generally don’t like when browsing All, I may downvote one post, block the Community and move on.
- Some of the communities I was banned from don’t have any posts in them so I wouldn’t have been able to downvote anything.
- Of all of these Communities, in my history I downvoted one post in one of them. Voting in this manner is not vote manipulation. It’s quite literally a feature of the platform and as a mod of another Community, I would consider it pretty good etiquette.
- One of my bans reads “Appeal Granted, not a brigading member” but I’m still banned.
- I don’t troll.
WTF is going on here?
EDIT - Updated Info from the conversation below: In the initial image, you can see two “ban waves.”
The 10 bans three months ago stem from a single downvote in one Community. It was @Draconic_NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com See here: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/34853477
I was called out by name for a single downvote and culled from a score of Communities I did not participate in by them.
The other bans from two months ago are from four total downvotes over a 10-month timeframe in one Community.
I have also stated in this thread that I don’t have issues with AI-gen images, but there are shoddy ones and well-done ones.
EDIT 2: Now unbanned from the ten Communities listed as “3 months ago” in my initial image, but have been banned from three more because of this thread with the reason given being “self-proclaimed anti-AI brigader” which are two things I didn’t claim to be. God dammit Lemmy…
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I’ve had very inconsistent moderation experiences on dbzer0
I’m sure some were because of this guy.
They are not so much punishing you as cultivating a vote farm. You are just a weed here.
That’s just DB0. If they aren’t banning anyone, they can’t feel like they’re making a difference. I swear them and blahaj have monthly ban quotas. “Another bigot destroyed by my hand of justice!” lmao, sit down, mall cop!
I’ll give anyone a cookie if they can find one singular post by me of me being a transphobe.
As a matter of fact, I DARE a blahaj mod to even find a single post of me being a transphobe.
The same user quietly banned me from all their communities for being a “Zionazi apologist” (which couldn’t be further from the truth) and it took me over 3 months to even notice.
They are just a special kind of idiot and I hope they don’t ever get to mod communities that are actually relevant.
I mean it’s 2025 on the internet. If you don’t like someone says you either ban them, or tell them they are mentally ill/bigot/nazi.
You can no longer just let other people have different opinions. Everyone who disagrees with you is now an evil demonic force that needs purging from your community/life.
Was recently banned from a whole bunch of DB0 communities for, as best as I can gather, downvoting once when I viewed by All (potentially accidentally while scrolling).
How do you know who banned you
Because there’s only one account modding in those communities. Some Lemmy UIs also let you see which mod took action in the modlog.
I’m a moderator on !stable_diffusion_art@lemmy.dbzer0.com, where you’ve never upvoted once, but you have downvoted multiple posts over months instead of blocking the community. This down-ranks submissions, adversely affecting the visibility of the community for subscribers, which is why you were banned.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/28218497
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/35031819
where you’ve never upvoted once, but you have downvoted multiple posts over months instead of blocking the community
So am I supposed to keep track of random communities when I downvote stuff on my /all feed over months? That is an insane policy.
No, you’re expected to block communities you aren’t interested in. Curate your feed/all.
And I do. But there is plenty of communities that I am interessted in, just not in the AI content. So I won’t block them and and I will downvote the stuff I don’t like. Like you’re supposed to do.
This sounds really asinine unless I’m missing something.
You say that you’re not interested in ai content, but you do not block communities that have exclusively content that you are not interested (like ai).
And you down vote posts that you don’t like, so if there is a community that has a type of content that you do not like, you only ever downvote them when something of them appears in your feed.
Which is harmful to that community and the people who do like the content of that community. And you believe that we’re supposed to do this? I can’t believe that we’re supposed to be harming communities that we have no interest in. The kind thing to do, would be to leave them alone.
Just block them and you won’t have to see their posts and their votes won’t be disturbed by you. Different people enjoy different things, live and let live and all that.
You say that you’re not interested in ai content, but you do not block communities that have exclusively content that you are not interested (like ai).
That is incorrect.
Sorry, I had misread.
So I must see something I like and upvote or else I am not allowed to an express an opinion in the community (or any tangentially linked community)?
What if, while browsing /All (like the above examples you gave) nothing randomly appears that I like enough to upvote? Is that then somehow my fault and I should be banned?
Am I interpreting your rulings correctly? 4 downvotes in the span of 10 months (judging by the post times of those posts you listed) is a bannable offence?
I don’t know why people browse like that in the first place. Of course you’re going to see a lot of crap. Why not subscribe to communities with content you enjoy?
This isn’t Reddit where there is a firehouse of content all day and at all times.
For doom scrollers such as myself, browsing all is a requirement.
Personally, I use that as a cue that I should put my phone down and do something useful.
I subscribe and am usually filtersd to subscriptions but also switch to All occasionally to help discover new communities.
You don’t have to like anything, but consistent downvoting like this without any other kind of participation is indistinguishable from targeted downvote harassment, and isn’t consistent with your claims of blocking.
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It’s perfectly distinguishable unless you’re trying real hard to misinterpret what I said. As a Mod of a small Community myself, here’s the difference in downvotes:
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Bad Faith Actor: Sees a post or a whole Community they don’t like. Goes in and systematically downvotes a bunch of stuff on purpose. Topics, responses… everything. Downvotes because they hate the community and everything it stands for. Ban these people. They are assholes and are vote manipulating. Probably ban them from related Communities for vote manipulation.
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Normal User: (–> We are here) May or may not comment in YOUR Community, especially if it’s image-based. Sees a single post that they don’t like out of thousands they see daily. Downvotes it. Several months later, it may happen again. This is expected behaviour and is how an upvote / downvote system functions. Don’t ban these or you’re the asshole.
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Brigade Users: A coordinated attack to downvote or spam a Community stemming from some other place. They downvote everything and often post garbage. Ban these people. They are assholes and are vote manipulating. Probably ban them from related Communities for vote manipulation if not seeking an instance ban.
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Lurker: (The overwhelming majority of users are this) Indistinguishable from a Normal user in votes, but may not comment. May be an alt or bot account. Be wary. Check their post history to see if they’re real people. If real, leave 'em alone. If empty, use your discretion. Don’t ban from related Communities.
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Other: Downvotes accidentally when scrolling sometimes. These happen. May appear as a Lurker or a Normal User. Don’t ban these or you’re the asshole.
Hope that helps!
Downvotes because they hate the community and everything it stands for.
If the community is promoting misinformation or hate then I would hope this is considered the right thing to do.
Maybe. Just I case, I wouldn’t interact. I would report it to an Admin most likely.
Most Admins will either not let that stand or fuckin’ lead the charge on it. If it’s the first, you’re good. It’ll be gone soon. If it’s the latter, get the hell outta that instance and block it.
Yeah, you make really good points, but we get also get the kind of bad faith actor that browses all and downvote community content whenever they see it.
Just FYI, I’m not downvoting you.
The bad faith actors should be somewhat easy to pick out. They are in my Community anyway. They often have scads of downvotes they throw out in a short time, not a few over the course of months. Dunno if you are, but if you’re using automation to ban, you may just want to tune it to be a little more lenient.
Okay… but that has nothing to do with the matter at hand. By your own admission, this user only voted negatively four times over the course of nine months. That clearly doesn’t fit the picture you’re trying to paint here. If that constitutes brigaiding, that leaves no room for normal use.
And just so we’re clear, I have been downvoting you within this thread, and that is owed entirely to the contents of your responses, as they’ve been conflicting, nonsensical, and overall harmful to the community.
Just one more for the road since I think the thread is dying down and I don’t like leaving things on a negative note.
It takes some bravery to dip into a thread discussing issues and I wanted to say thanks for clearing what you did up. I may not agree, but I can understand it at least. It’s important to remember the human on the other end. Moderating can be hard, and so can finding the line you feel you should walk. Thanks for running a Community on Lemmy. Shit’s not easy sometimes.
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Nah, feel free to downvote. But to go into that same community and just downvote every single post is not cool. Not only that, some people go to that same community every day to keep downvoting every single post. Regardless of content. And some, in my personal case, go to other comms I run and do the same thing, even tho they are totally unrelated posts and unrelated subject manner.
I’m not saying you did that, but it’s happening so much, that you probably just got caught up in it. If you really want to get back into those comms, email the mod.
OPs story keeps changing so much.
“Oh I was unfairly banned”
“Oh I only downvoted 1 post”
“So what I only downvoted 4 posts”
Still nope. Geez, you are really dedicated to thinking the worst thing you can about people, hey?
I didn’t say unfairly banned. I was confused as to why I was banned.
I did downvote one post near the time of the ban. I didn’t look prior to that. 4 posts downvoted in ten months isn’t normally something I’d associate with a ban. People don’t generally ban for things that happened ten months ago. Especially since the votes were reasonably more private back then.
It’s all one story. The same story. It evolved as I discovered more about what occurred. It’s called learning. Make an attempt to do so as well please.
votes were reasonably more private back then.
Not commenting on anything else in your comment except to say: Votes have never been private on Lemmy. The have been made more visible, but they were always just an API call away.
Oh, I’m aware, but they weren’t as exposed as they are since 19.10 made them easily visible to Mods. It was MUCH harder to get downvote totals prior.
If I see something I don’t like (which is what the voting system is for), I should go to the Community it’s posted in and make sure to upvote things before I downvote? That’s the expected order of operations?
If the community is about something you dislike (which seems to be the case here), why would you not just block them from your feed instead of downvoting?
Maybe I’m indifferent to the majority of the content they spew but there is one really shitty post that I down vote that isn’t worth blocking the feed over.
Keep in mind that the pattern that resulted in the OP being banned from over a dozen communities was down voting a single post. That would be triggered if the one post they down voted was literal spam or racist or sexist or any other terrible subject.
Or someone accidentally clicks on the down vote button with their fat thumb unintentionally. The mod assumes malicious intent and overreacts.
I wonder if the “overreaction” was caused by the constant harassment from anti genAI trolls? You helped create this situation, the mods are simply trying to deal with it. Sometimes that’s unfortunately going to result in erroneous bans, which can usually be resolved by DMing the mod.
I have yet to see an example of any individual post getting more than a handful of downvotes, which is completely expected to happen when hundreds or thousands of users have the opportunity to come across the content. That isn’t harassment, and neither is people vocalizing their dislike of AI in comments.
If people are being harassed, then there should be moderation records, right? Are there dozens of people harassing people who like AI, or is the ‘constant harassment’ just disagreement that has been blown out of proportion by people who run communities that don’t get the attention they think they deserve?
My one vote per post or comment is jot part of any problem. That is how voting works. I don’t coordinate with anyone else, it is just me using a feature that exists the way I want to.
I have yet to see an example of any individual post getting more than a handful of downvotes, which is completely expected to happen when hundreds or thousands of users have the opportunity to come across the content. That isn’t harassment, and neither is people vocalizing their dislike of AI in comments.
If people are being harassed, then there should be moderation records, right? Are there dozens of people harassing people who like AI, or is the ‘constant harassment’ just disagreement that has been blown out of proportion by people who run communities that don’t get the attention they think they deserve?
My one vote per post or comment is jot part of any problem. That is how voting works. I don’t coordinate with anyone else, it is just me using a feature that exists the way I want to.
I accept you are capable of being an asshole all by yourself, requiring no coordination.
Oh, we get to throw insults around? Didn’t think that was the case but have fun I guess.
Just pointing out that every time this has come up in YPTB it is an overreacting mod hiding behind the ‘anti AI harassment or brigading’ while the explanation is a few people happened to downvote a few things. I don’t doubt there have been a few people doing that, but absolutely not enough to justify Draconic Leo’s moderation log filled to the brim with accusations of bote manipulation. Pointing things out isn’'t sealioning, nor is having a conversation in the comments of the same post.
Here you go though, what comment(s) in my moderation or posting history are harassment?
The answer is none, the accusation in the bans is a lie.
On the other hand, if you’ve found a bunch of stuff worth downvoting and not a single thing worth upvoting, that’s probably a sign.
Keep in mind that the pattern that resulted in the OP being banned from over a dozen communities was down voting a single post.
Nah, it turns out OP has downvoted multiple posts in the comm over time. Somebody posted records elsewhere in this thread
Four downvotes across months means absolutely nothing. Nada. It is a statical blip.
Well then, thanks OP for making ai slop less visible on lemmy <3
I appreciate you sharing such a bonkers policy so plainly and candidly, but that makes it no less bonkers.
I’m open to feedback.
Stop doing your stupid policy because it is stupid.
Doing widespread bans and accusing people of ‘Vote Manipulation’ just because they down voted without joining or making a comment is making a mockery of the moderation process. Like maybe a few of the people you banned were doing that, but the vast majority were probably just served up the same post in All around the same time and decided it was slop and down voted it.
Why do those people care of they are banned from “Ai slop” comms then ?
If they weren’t putting accusations of vote manipulation and other ridiculous claims in the modlog it wouldn’t be nearly as annoying.
It also adds some annoying steps to the end user who would want to block those communities since banning means you can’t just click on the post and block the community in the default browser interface. Once banned it is necessary to go to setting and block the community manually.
Since they made a bunch of tiny, barely used communities it also means that they trickle into the feed and you have to block each one individually. They are spamming AI communities and then being dicks about it.
Then there is at least one that expands this to other communities they mod that don’t have anything to do with AI. I like the Dem TankieJerk, but got banned for not liking AI. Not harassing, just down voting one or two AI slop posts in some other community and not feeling bad about it.
At the end of the day it’s up to community mods how they want to moderate their communities. If they don’t want someone with a moderation history like yours in their communities then I can totally understand that. It’s not like db0 is the only instance where you’ve been banned for systematic down voting, now is it matey?
Acting like my moderation history is accurate when shitty mods treat a few downvotes as manipulation is the biggest part of the problem. You are taking their word for it that their moderation is accurate when it is not. The list is long because one mod did like a dozen of them at the same time.
That is the perfect example of why this is a problem!
The other one is jet at hackernews who has a bot that bans people for a single downvote and he has bragged about it right here in YPTB! Some of those bans are cross instance because they mod communities on multiple instances and banned all of them. It is the action of three or four ridiculously over the top mods.
It’s like talking to a wall.
Basically what Spankmonkey said.
I feel like sending a PM would have been a more decent and human thing to do. It’s an overstep to ban people who may disagree with the kind of art you are producing.
I feel like sending a PM would have been a more decent and human thing to do.
I used to think that too. But I sent a PM to someone about this very subject once because I didn’t wanna ban them. He replied back that PM’ing him wa one of the most pathetic things he’d ever seen in his life and said I was an idiot. Maybe a one-off.
Ok, so another person was giving me issues and stalking me and downvoting everything I posted (I’m not well-loved on Lemmy haha), I PM’d them and said I didn’t wanna ban them, but downovitng across all my comms was in bad taste. He told me to fuck off and that he could downvote anything he wanted to.
Lesson learned. Way too many people on Lemmy who don’t like your attitude or views, are freakin crazy. As in stalk you crazy. One person, who I won’t name (and admin here knows their name!), would regularly write to admins with pages of “proof” about how terrible I am for Lemmy. And why the outrage? I voted third party in the election. LMAO
Now I have no problem banning problem children without notice. The crazy on Lemmy is a whole 'nother level of crazy. lol
What I don’t get, is why the serial downvoting? If ya don’t like a community, just block it. But some refuse to block and just go in and downvote every single post. It’s happening more and more.
Not saying OP did that, but it’s happening. And we can see it happening because as mods, we are able to see names of downvoters. Other people in this thread are noticing same thing, so it’s not just me saying that.
The best move is to remove them and not engage.
These people wont’ reflect and suddenly become good members of the community.
There have been frequent brigades of late in ai communities by anti-AI folks.
Your downvote likely coincided in timing and appeared as part of another downvote brigade.
When you assume a single downvote is brigading…
Across multiple communities, all the same subject, a singular downvote in each…
Obviously this is just my guess, but that’s what I would probably think based on what’s been going on.
Snoogums is correct, there was one downvote in one of those Communities, not in multiple. It was not in any way vote manipulation or brigading. Apologies if you’re reading something else, but I felt I was being quite clear with my wording.
My mistake then, it read (to me) like you were saying you down voted once, in each of the communities you were banned from.
Then all I could guess was timing. Multiple communities might depend on what client they are using, but in any case a single downvote to a ban rings as mod silliness to me, I agree.
Actually, if you read the post they said it was a single down vote, not one for each community. They even said some of the communities don’t even have a single post to down vote.
- Some of the communities I was banned from don’t have any posts in them so I wouldn’t have been able to downvote anything.
- Of all of these Communities, in my history** I downvoted one post in one of them**
You are ‘guessing’ the opposite of what actually happened, which is consistent with other dbzer0 AI fanatics who treat a single down vote as brigading.
Thats not how their reply reads to me, but your attitude and responses dont interest me. So I’ll be done from here, enjoy your day.
I will continue to enjoy it, thanks!
Would’ve had a lot more respect for you if you’d just been able to admit you were wrong when confronted with the evidence, but this type of “everyone’s dumb beliefs are valid” response is the cause of a whole host of other problems so clearly that was too optimistic.
Nah, just have no interest in people who behave like babies.
Your respect means nothing to me in any way, so… enjoy not having any for me I guess?
You have no interest in yourself?
Hit the nail on the head matey.
I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Wouldn’t one glance at my long-standing profile and the fact that it was only a single vote over nearly a dozen communities indicate that it’s not part of a brigade?
self important to think your profile deserved a single look. ;) dont worry about it mate. these are jsut made of 1s and 0s.
I’d say that it was the dozen communities that made it seem like it was a brigade, as well as an attempt to avoid getting caught by only having one each across a dozen communities.
Edit: a whole word was missing.
Not when you’re using AI to silence criticism of AI. Laziness and ineptitude are a feature not a bug.
Wut?
And this is exactly why the fediverse needs private voting.
Eh. I see arguments both ways. Public votes makes it easier to catch bad faith (downvote bots) and manipulation. However, it allows abuse from touchy or unscrupulous mods. TBH, I’m personally more concerned with the bots. Everything is federated to one can pickup and move elsewhere of they’re on the receiving end of such a mod.
If one becomes active on another instance with the same name it is highly likely the same mods will just ban the other user account too, so moving isn’t helpful.
Oh, I meant that one can start a new community on the new instance to remove the problematic mod from the picture. Not that one should try to engage in ban evasion.
So brigading small communities can be easier?
fediverse needs no voting
I don’t have an issue with this instance being pro-AI, but I find it weird as fuck how harshly skeptics are treated
To clarify, we [admins] didn’t do this. It was a mod of the community that moderated lots of other communities that decided to ban them from everything
It’s been a common thing for awhile now, unfortunately. My .ee account was randomly banned from a bunch of comms because of being pro-ai or somesuch ridiculous thing.
It’s also common practice on .blahaj
Blahaj is specifically a safe environment for LGBTQ+ folks who usually face harassment elsewhere, pre-existing homophobia or transphobia is a totally valid reason to be banned pre-emptively in my opinion. The safe environment doesn’t exist if you just let anyone in and then ban them after they cause trouble.
(Using “you” in general here, not to mean you specifically, OP) if you’re hanging around outside a gay bar talking about how cool your schutzstaffel tattoo is, they aren’t going to let you inside the doors. Same idea here.
.blahaj admins/mods will ban you from every space they control for any reason they don’t like you. They will then just say that person was a bigot to try to avoid drama.
They do not have consistent moderation policies, and use their small amount of power maliciously.
They try to curate a group of people who will not question them and will tribalisticly defend the space no matter what.
And that group of people seem quite pleased with Ada’s strategy, she’s one of the most well loved moderators I’ve ever seen in any community.
If you don’t like it, that’s fine. The space isn’t for you.
I wouldn’t expect a community of handpicked loyalists to be unhappy with their idol.
If you don’t like it, that’s fine. The space isn’t for you.
This is the exact type of passive agressive tribalism she curates. Thanks for being the example i guess.
I agree I don’t feel safe there, it’s better for me to not contribute to that space and let it go the way of the lgbtq subs on reddit with their idol mods who could do no wrong.
.blahaj admins/mods will ban you from every space they control
I don’t moderate any communities outside of blahaj.
Finally someone that speaks out
the amount of gaslighting they do is enormous
It’s not a “common practice on blahaj”. It’s just how lemmy does instance bans.
I generally don’t community ban people, I tend to instance ban them, because if they’re breaking community rules, but not instance rules, it’s up the community mods to deal with, and if they’re breaking instance rules, they get an instance ban.
And when you instance ban someone, and choose to remove their content, that’s what it looks like in a modlog. It’s not because I’ve gone and selected a whole bunch of community bans. It’s just how lemmy works
I find it weird how harsh AI haters treat people who use it.
People are assholes to people who disagree with them, no matter the topic.
You can find examples of people on each ‘side’ being assholes. Social media teaches people to be outraged, not to have any empathy.
As a Mac guy since the 90s, I can tell the hate and bile against AI is on another level, though. Relatively speaking.
I also recognize that the environmental and societal impacts of AI are why it’s so different from your typical fanboy/platform/lifestyle argument.
Like, that guy commenting about AI here does not really deserve the -4 votes his comment had when I started writing this.
I also think r/singularity types are off the deep end too. The way they are frothing at the mouth for societal collapse/UBI/etc is wild.
You can find examples of people on each ‘side’ being assholes
Very true!
Depends on the usage:
- Generating images of witches - Not very harsh.
- Perpetrating genocide - Very harsh.
Could the same not be said of computers in general?
Yes, and how well do people treat Mark Zuckerbot?
He’s an android. Android is a phones not computers duh.
well how are you supposed to treat people who roll coal?
Like you’re doing right now?
Did you not know that data centres use a huge amount of electricity, or did you think your posting was environmentally free?
Have you ever gone on a vacation? Because if so you’ve polluted more from one trip than all my years of AI art.
On an individual level generating an image is barely more any more resource intensive than a Google search. So don’t try to pull that shit when you’re just as guilty as using computers, the internet, and electricity for your personal enjoyment.
A lot of peope consider it immoral.
Those same people probably find intellectual property moral, so immoral people themselves.
Oh, so you don’t really have a proper grasp on the issue, huh?
You see, creators create things because they need money to provide food, shelter, etc
AI directly steals from creators so that it can attempt to reproduce something to replace them.
So you can be over here like “blahblah you don’t have a right to defend your intellectual property blahblah”, but no reasonable adult will ever take you seriously. Because you are advocating for the dissolution of jobs and attacking livelihoods.
So shut up! :)
Thats a capitalism problem, not an AI problem. AI is just the most recent example.
They shouldn’t have to rely on maybe getting paid so they can have food, shelter, and other basic things for living.
Right… but they do… so…
Irrelevant until we fix that problem. And guess what? Advocating for AI in the meantime is only going to give more power to corporations :) so great job, bud!
I dont advocate for corporate AI.
I’d also mention most users on db0 are far more likely to be using fully open models and models they’ve trained themselves (which is what I do, mostly log/error eval stuff).
That said, “fixing” AI will solve nothing, because capitalism is going to find yet another way to screw them over. Banning AI tomorrow isn’t going to provide job security or a stable income, it wasn’t before and it isn’t now.
I work with a lot of creatives, and so many are contract based and struggle between them. Several of them have been finding work cleaning up (as in, creating new) materials that were AI generated and look terrible.
So again, the issue is capitalism, and AI is just the most recent conversation piece. AI isn’t the root of the problem, nor is the problem “solved” without it.
This just in: Technology makes some jobs obsolete. More at 11.
Right, did you miss the part where the AIs are usually trained using stolen data and also consume huge amounts of energy? Why are you defending AI rn? 🥱
Did I miss the part where you made a terrible argument and are now pivoting to something else?
Nope sure didn’t.
Congratulations you’ve discovered capitalism is the enemy.
No reasonable leftist will ever take you seriously if you want to fight for the status quo.
So go fuck yourself! :)
Yes, capitalism IS bad. Labor is stolen and exploited for profit by people who added nothing or next to nothing. Sound familiar?
No, you absolute child, it is LAUGHABLE for you to consider yourself a “leftist”.
Real leftists advocate for harm reduction, meaning that defending individual creator’s IP rights are a MUST, at least until capitalism is abolished.
In other words… got anything intelligent to say, or just going to keep saying stupid shit?
Liberals advocate for harm reduction. Leftists advocate for revolution.
I find it weird as fuck how harshly skeptics are treated
It’s reactionary, they’ll get trolled to hell otherwise.
I moderate a community on Reddit which allowed AI posts. Until recently, the community got less than one AI post per month. Regardless, every post would get an onslaught of hateful comments and false reports full of curses.
Recently, the subreddit got a few more AI images than usual. Less than a third of the posts over the last month before I personally removed multiple of them for quality reasons. The accepted consensus between commenters, however, was the opposite of this reality.
Not to say the actions of this mod were correct, in fact it seems ridiculous. This is just to answer why they would be harsh.
I love it when anti-AI trolls act all confused about why they’ve been banned.
Actually, I’ve been unbanned from 10 of those subs due to this post because it was found to be an unjust ban. Also, are you able to point at the part where I stated I was anti-image generation, or are you just being standard-issue internet hostile?
“Create more slop” is, in fact, a message I disagree with rather strongly
you’re anti-AI, so YDI. fuck off to whatever liberal shithole you came from.
Do you have a fetish for weird images? Maybe it’s the extra fingers that does it for you?
Voices guard the arts— code invades the sacred brush, progress meets protest.
Or you may just be addicted.
https://internetaddictsanonymous.org/internet-and-technology-addiction/signs-of-an-addiction-to-ai/
Wheels spin in silence— even the moon waits softly. Let the stillness speak.
That’s pretty weird from you. I’m glad we have different opinions.
??? being anti-ai is liberal now?
WTF is going on here?
Illegal Voter Suppression, Appeal to the #Lemmy Supreme Court™, actually nvm it’s packed with partisan hacks.
no no, you don’t understand, they are the Good Ones. And anyone else who isn’t 100% in agreement with them is the Bad People.
Where do yall get this ban notification stuff do you pay for some kind of lemmy Bloomberg terminal or?
We have Lemmy+ it’s only $6.99.
I opted for the Ad Free Lemmy Prime $8.99.
People occasionally check their modlogs to see if they got in trouble earlier.
If on the web (not a mobile client), you can click the three dots with the arrow pointing down under your name and hit “YOUR NAME Moderation History”. It’ll show you what mod actions have been taken on you.
thanks. useful to see how i got banned from multiple communities for one comment on a totally unrelated one. these people are insane.
Thanks, I didn’t know about that
Everyone beat me to it but thank you for explaining!
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I just block the comms I don’t care about, can recommend.
Including that AI generated low effort crap. I don’t get the point of sharing that stuff, when you can generate your own if you want. But nowadays I don’t get many things anymore.
Whoa, I thought only the conservative mods were pulling this
You think only conservatives mods would want to create safe positive environments for their users?
I don’t think that’s at all what conservatives want to do.
I don’t think that’s what these mods were doing either.
No, they want to control the narrative. This guy set his comm to mod-post-only. It’s his private blog. They’re not making a safe place for others, they’re making a safe place for themself.
Well that’s equally as fine as well.
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If it’s literally a place only for them, they clearly are not building a community.
And if they were building a community, removing haters goes a long way to making it tolerable.
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It was clearly based on voting, not personal preference.
And why wouldn’t I defend not having to deal with arseholes coming by and shitting on everything? I deal with it so often that I have zero patience for it.
It’d be fine if they weren’t spewing their content across the fediverse. It should be fair game to discuss it no matter what opinion, short of hateful, it is.
there’s a lot of conservative / AI bro crossover.
Which mods are those?
Here’s a fun read: https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&modId=13008854
I would have used their server but lemmy.today doesn’t let you filter by mod.
Wow, I had no idea there was any presence for them on this side of the defederation wall. Thanks for sharing
EDIT: this dude’s ideology is all over the place, it’s like deciphering an alien civilization
What kind of person bans links to Fox News and then posts links to Breitbart - all while advocating empathy in the sidebar?
Well, both of those are right-wing media, so I would think it obvious.
The mystery is why the more more “mainstream” news source (Fox) is banned but the fringe/conspiratorial Breitbart is not only not banned but makes up a good third of the posts that he does.
Mind you, a whole other third is from the New York Post which is also a Murdoch property?
I invite you to propose the ideological framework that explains all of that - the closest I can come up with is libertarian
I dare not gaze too long into that abyss.
I can confirm it stares back
The lemmy.today conservatives strike again!
I also got banned from some communities for “systematic downvoting”. I’d estimate I’ve downvoted maybe 5 or so posts by a moderator promoting a harmful diet, which was apparently enough for being “systematic”. The mod also banned me from other random communities I had never interacted with in the first place. But oh well, nothing of value was lost for me. Just kinda sucks that mods can use this to make it seem like their statements are less controversial than they are.
This was 2 mods that banned you across all the comms they mod, not a site-ban at least, though sitebans look like this too because of a workaround in place to ensure that a site-banned user’s content is purged (or something like that)
It’s possible they hit the wrong button/inputted wrong script command hence the “appeal granted” thing. I would reach out to the mod of those comms
