Was recently banned from a whole bunch of DB0 communities for, as best as I can gather, downvoting once when I viewed by All.
Important notes:
- I don’t use scripts.
- I don’t mass-downvote Communities. If I see a post I generally don’t like when browsing All, I may downvote one post, block the Community and move on.
- Some of the communities I was banned from don’t have any posts in them so I wouldn’t have been able to downvote anything.
- Of all of these Communities, in my history I downvoted one post in one of them. Voting in this manner is not vote manipulation. It’s quite literally a feature of the platform and as a mod of another Community, I would consider it pretty good etiquette.
- One of my bans reads “Appeal Granted, not a brigading member” but I’m still banned.
- I don’t troll.
WTF is going on here?
There have been frequent brigades of late in ai communities by anti-AI folks.
Your downvote likely coincided in timing and appeared as part of another downvote brigade.
And this is exactly why the fediverse needs private voting.
So brigading small communities can be easier?
Eh. I see arguments both ways. Public votes makes it easier to catch bad faith (downvote bots) and manipulation. However, it allows abuse from touchy or unscrupulous mods. TBH, I’m personally more concerned with the bots. Everything is federated to one can pickup and move elsewhere of they’re on the receiving end of such a mod.
If one becomes active on another instance with the same name it is highly likely the same mods will just ban the other user account too, so moving isn’t helpful.
Oh, I meant that one can start a new community on the new instance to remove the problematic mod from the picture. Not that one should try to engage in ban evasion.
fediverse needs no voting
Wouldn’t one glance at my long-standing profile and the fact that it was only a single vote over nearly a dozen communities indicate that it’s not part of a brigade?
I’d say that it was the dozen communities that made it seem like it was a brigade, as well as an attempt to avoid getting caught by only having one each across a dozen communities.
Edit: a whole word was missing.
self important to think your profile deserved a single look. ;) dont worry about it mate. these are jsut made of 1s and 0s.
Not when you’re using AI to silence criticism of AI. Laziness and ineptitude are a feature not a bug.
Wut?
When you assume a single downvote is brigading…
Across multiple communities, all the same subject, a singular downvote in each…
Obviously this is just my guess, but that’s what I would probably think based on what’s been going on.
Hit the nail on the head matey.
I’m shocked. Shocked, I tell you.
Actually, if you read the post they said it was a single down vote, not one for each community. They even said some of the communities don’t even have a single post to down vote.
You are ‘guessing’ the opposite of what actually happened, which is consistent with other dbzer0 AI fanatics who treat a single down vote as brigading.
Thats not how their reply reads to me, but your attitude and responses dont interest me. So I’ll be done from here, enjoy your day.
Would’ve had a lot more respect for you if you’d just been able to admit you were wrong when confronted with the evidence, but this type of “everyone’s dumb beliefs are valid” response is the cause of a whole host of other problems so clearly that was too optimistic.
Nah, just have no interest in people who behave like babies.
Your respect means nothing to me in any way, so… enjoy not having any for me I guess?
You have no interest in yourself?
By the opinion of a rando on the internet?
No, of course not.
I will continue to enjoy it, thanks!
Snoogums is correct, there was one downvote in one of those Communities, not in multiple. It was not in any way vote manipulation or brigading. Apologies if you’re reading something else, but I felt I was being quite clear with my wording.
My mistake then, it read (to me) like you were saying you down voted once, in each of the communities you were banned from.
Then all I could guess was timing. Multiple communities might depend on what client they are using, but in any case a single downvote to a ban rings as mod silliness to me, I agree.