Yeah, I am just speaking as a general principle - not whatever happened here. Mass downvoting isn’t at all observed like that anyway. It’s the behaviour from some individual accounts that repeatedly downvote different threads from a specific community. So you’d be looking at habits across threads.

If in my community (for instance) someone was to come in and just downvote the entire first page, I’d probably ban them because that would just be a crude attempt to target it. And again: downvoting like that is worse for smaller communities trying to grow.

Anyone banning for downvoting is incredibly petty or thin skinned, just my observation. If it wasn’t for the instance shutting down, it would have made a good post on yptb. Reading other comment threads on this post support the thin skinned theory imho. I just happened to be browsing all when I found the post. Looking at my subs, I wasn’t subscribed to any community there.

What about in the context of mass-downvoters? I can’t speak for Dubvee, but mass-downvoters do exist - and they can be corrosive for smaller communities trying to grow, as early downvotes of threads can effectively kill them. These are accounts that seem to primarily downvote and don’t actually interact on-site, and have no real pattern to it. This kind of response has little to do with sensitivity.

Ignoring the “fascist” criticism, the fact that you reply to this with Fidel Castro as your PFP is amusing.

Well if you do want to throw donation money anywhere, there is always Piefed now.

Per the UK definitions, the concept of “NSFW” is deranged. I made a post on what Reddit is supposedly going to do here.

It’s more ugly that they are also implicitly saying that you, as a Korean, should just become the plaything of Kim Jong Un. That really you should actually just become a puppet of them.

Said safe and sound somewhere from a bedroom in the USA.

Yea, but I really think .ml not being defederated from is causing a bit of a feedback loop encouraging similar toxic behavior in other users for their own, even non-Tankie, reasons

Can I just say that if instances start flipping from being lemmy instances to piefed instances, as is slowly happening, then lemmy.ml will potentially find itself more marginalised and the questions of defederation will happen. As it stands now, lemmy.ml is the foundational instance for the lemmy software and that is likely the primary reason why many instances won’t pull the plug.

Or even Twitter these days.

It was a rather sombering thread, that echoed quite a bit of what I’ve been saying about .ml, the Triad, general toxicity of their Tankie “ideology” for months now.

A lot of what Patrick is referring to goes well beyond the ‘tankie triad’ (two of which are banned from most instances anyway).

Hell, I saw hex users fucking cheering .ee’s shutdown because it was some sort of psyop/CIA/fed/lib/“They didn’t perfectly agree with me” instance. They call feddit.org a “Nazi Zionist” instance for the crime…of not wanting to be arrested and complying with German law…

And yet all that happened was with lemm.ee shutting down, hexbear became more isolated because lemm.ee actually federated with them.

Outside of .ml, most tankies are despised across the fediverse.

To be fair, the idea that Ofcom even know Lemmy exists is unlikely.

I doubt it. This is Ofcom you’re talking about. “What’s a Lemmy”? (Said in the voice of Sandor Clegane)

Feddit is actually (presumably) hosted in the UK, so if Ofcom actually knew what the Fediverse is they could start trying to demand they do age verification.

I very much doubt Ofcom knows what Feddit is, let alone Lemmy.

The OSA bill in the UK has caused a hamster forum to shut down over concerns of not being able to follow it (or the risks associated with non-compliance). It’s an unbelievably wordy and excessive bill that is a bureaucratic nightmare for small communities.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2025/03/18/hamster-forum-local-residents-websites-shut-down-new-laws/

Look at what Reddit is saying. It’s absurd:

For UK users under 18, Reddit said it has to restrict sexually explicit content; content that promotes suicide, deliberate self-injury, and eating disorders; content that incites abuse or hatred against people based upon protected characteristics; bullying content; content that promotes violence or “depicts real or realistic serious violence against a person, an animal, or a fictional creature”; content that promotes challenges or stunts that are likely to cause serious injuries; content that encourages people to use harmful substances or substances in harmful quantities; content that shames people based on body type or physical features; and “content that promotes or romanticizes depression, hopelessness and despair.”

WTF? How is this supposed to work? A system that auto-blocks all NSFW tagged content itself as a blunt instrument is viable - but half the stuff on here, on Reddit here isn’t even necessarily tagged as NSFW when its posted. Are extreme mountain biking or skiing or skateboarding or other similar types videos going to be age-gated because they could be content that “promotes challenges or stunts that are likely to cause serious injuries”? How do you verify whether or not content specifically romanticises “hopelessness” or “despair” exactly? Are Giles Corey songs now 18+? What does that even mean? Even the writing of it is Orwellian.

It also adds “depicts real or realistic serious violence against a person, an animal, or a fictional creature” ???

Are action movie clips now going to be age-gated? Or video game clips? From TV shows and films that are PG-13?

He had changed his position after I wrote that comment I believe.

That would be the case if most instances operated like that but most don’t. Most will ultimately have it enabled, and if most of them have it enabled it will affect users even on ones where it is turned off.

I feel like this is speculative. I don’t think karma systems across the fediverse are popular enough for that.

Is this a piefed.social change or a piefed software change.

Both.

If it’s the former it’s still a big trust issue because it can presumably be turned off and on at will, by making it hardcoded it can still be disabled but it’s more work, requires maintaining a fork and basically guarantees that 99% of modlogs will be there and be recording.

You could say that about a lot of things that Lemmy instance admins could do, but choose not to.

People need to be the change they want to see. I came here because I wanted to run some communities, but ultimately it was impossible on Reddit. All the names are taken, all the aging mod teams set in stone. You essentially have no meaningful opportunity to build anything new on there. In contrast, and especially with federation, the Fediverse is a completely different system. A fresh start - still after 2 years. And it has way better internal advertisement of communities than Reddit does.

And to be clear, on Reddit you can easily just shout into the wilderness at no-one. Big audience means you can get drowned out.

Apparently, reading the details on there - he might not shut it down.

No idea, but it’s not an active instance so idk what happened.