I used to think US police were probably good guys making the right call most of the time. When something fishy hit the news I tended to think “they must have had a reason.”
Then there was the killing of Walter Scott.
That put a crack in it for me, but it was 2020 that really spun me the rest of the way around. And not just George Floyd himself. It was how police conducted themselves during the protests - every day I saw clips of cops escalating or being brutal to protesters. And several more high profile cases of police brutality happened during the same time. I admit I can’t remember a lot of the names now but I remember them - the kid with the sandwich shot in the back as he tried to enter his home, the guy with the phone in his hand shot in his friend’s garage, the old woman who had her arm dislocated and was then mocked while the cops replayed the video and bragged about it. And others… And always it was that the cops were shown to be liars by video evidence.
I ended 2020 with the view that I believe nothing cops say about any situation without video evidence to back them up. I will never again assume they “must have had a reason” or assume they are making a good faith effort to be truthful. It’s been far too consistent that every time there is a controversy, a video makes liars out of them.
I used to be a dyed-in-the-wool optimist. Now, I’m an avowed cynic, and most people don’t realize it because I’m generally a cheerful person and that serves to mask it somewhat.
My entire adult life has corresponded to the regressive post-9/11 loss of economic and civil liberty that has drastically impacted the poor and working class in America.
Thing is, I truly believed in Obama. I went to a rally where Michelle spoke in September 2008. In late October, Obama dropped by for a rally, and there were so many of us that the organizers had to cut the line off and we had to sit on a nearby hill and just listen. I was 100%, absolutely certain that real, lasting change was coming.
But nope. Our two wars became seven. (That we know of.) Occupy was brutally crushed by the NYPD with Obama’s tacit approval. Police became militarized, even after Ferguson. Torture continued and the War on Terror continued unabated, despite Obama having a mandate to end it. No one from Wall Street that crashed our economy for profit went to prison, even though a foreclosure crisis followed. Life began to become unaffordable and the minimum wage stayed at $7 an hour. Despite having the votes to universalize health care, Obama made it more expensive instead. The cherry on top was that Obama gave us Tom Homan.
All of these problems have continued and worsened in the decade since 2016, despite both parties having total power for years at a time.
Now, no matter who we elect at the federal (and mostly state) level, I know things are never getting better.
My only power is local. Thankfully, my city is doing good things, so there’s that, but if I had the money to do so I’d leave this country completely and reside abroad instead.
I was born and raised in the deep south (U.S.) surrounded by conservatives. I retired in the south with 98% conservative colleagues. I spent 50 years turning the other cheek to conservatives, being patient, using the Socratic method, being a good son, a good grandson, a good brother, good friend and good neighbor to conservatives. Then Trump came along.
I now see how absolutely short-sighted and naive I was thinking the arrogant, unintelligent, bigoted, hateful, grinning monsters all around me could ever possibly become kind humans. Conservatives are exactly as evil as they appear. It’s not an illusion and they will never change.
Conservatives are biologically unable to experience empathy. This core understanding of conservatives explains so much about them. Their relationships are shallow because deep connections require empathy. It explains why bigotry and cruelty comes so easily to them. It explains how they can literally brag about killing a puppy and receive positive feedback from fellow conservatives.
I will never trust a conservative again as long as I live. I cannot unsee how genuinely cruel and evil they are and I can no longer be misled to believe they can change. It took a lifetime, but I understand what they are now and I am appropriately horrified by them.
I stopped being religious a few years ago. I was a christian universalist, but I genuinely do not want to be associated with Christians or Christianity. As far as im concerned, they sold the farm to back a murderous pedophile.
literally yesterday a book changed my mind about how much alcohol I’m comfortable consuming
since I’ve started getting horrible hangovers in my 30s I’ve limited myself to 1-2 drinks in one evening, once a month or so, and that worked for me
the book detailed how alcohol absolutely wrecks your sleep. yeah i think I’m done drinking for the rest of my life now lol
Congratulations. You have had one of the healthiest epiphanies you will ever have. I relate very much, although I am probably twice your age. I wish I had that realization 30 years ago.
If you ever have a strong urge to drink again, if it’s legal where you are, a light dose of THC might satisfy you instead. It’s not for everyone, but that’s worked very well for me.
Again, congratulations. Getting away from alcohol is a move so healthy, you should be proud of yourself for it.
thanks :]
ah, i enjoyed THC when I got to try it in a legal state. sadly psychosis runs in my family and I decided even that much fun wasn’t worth the risk
I’m very lucky I’m nerdy enough to get “high” off of just goofing around with friends (and lucky I have the friends!)
Israel.
I used to support Israel, until I heard about them executing children in Gaza.
When I first learned that people were transitioning their gender, I was very much “live and let live,” but took exception at having to call people their preferred pronoun. It seemed like a rigged game to me, like they wanted you to guess at what their gender is, and if you got it wrong, you’re a bigot.
Then my wife was like “what harm does it do to call them what they prefer?”
And I thought about all the hurtful names people teased me with at school, and how I wished they would’ve just called me by my name.
So I said “OK,” and that was that. It hasn’t been as hard as I thought to recognize what people wish to be called. Unless you’re dealing with a “they/them,” then they gotta tell you. Or if you’re dealing with a butch lesbian that dresses boy-ish. On those occasions, I just try not to use any pronouns or talk to them extensively for fear of messing up.
like they wanted you to guess at what their gender is, and if you got it wrong, you’re a bigot.
FWIW, for anyone else who has these sorts of thoughts, most people trans/nonbinary people I’ve met don’t tend to get particularly hung up on it if you guess wrong.
They live in the same world you do, they own mirrors, they know how they look, and in a lot of cases they probably spend a whole lot more time agonizing over how they look than anyone else because they’re worrying about whether or not they can pass.
Just take your best guess and if they or someone else corrects you, just apologize and try to do better. You’re probably gonna fuck up, you have a lifetime of indoctrination in the gender binary to unlearn. It happens. I have a friend who’s been dating a nonbinary person for years and occasionally still messes up and uses the wrong pronouns, it happens. The femboy wearing a skirt probably isn’t gonna be offended no matter what pronouns you use for them. The butch lesbian with a buzz cut has probably already been mistaken for a guy 7 times today, it’s nothing new. Trans and non-binary people have probably spent most of their life using pronouns they don’t like, and sure they’d prefer you use the right ones, but it’s nothing new to them.
If you’re unsure when you meet someone and they don’t broach the subject off the bat, go ahead and spell out your own pronouns so they can feel safe to do the same.
Or just stick to they/them. It’s a little awkward sometimes, it takes some getting used to, but the only people I’ve ever seen get offended by it are bigots who I don’t mind offending anyway.
Sure, there’s some subset of the community that gets really huffy about it, and those people are just garden variety assholes who happen to be trans/nonbinary. They’re basically the same as the cis Karen type who for some reason gets a stick up her ass about not wanting to be called “ma’am,” or the guy who insists on correcting you that it’s “Doctor such-and-such” if you dare to refer to him as “mister.” It doesn’t mean you should go ahead and ignore their preference, but don’t put too much stock in their opinions either.
I just don’t use pronouns if I’m not sure, because I’ve never seen anger on the level of someone whom I’ve inadvertently misgendered, and it doesn’t seem to cross people’s minds that maybe I’m not a mind reader.
Gender neutral language is just best overall in this scenario.
I’ve felt like this. You already call people the name they asked you to call them, it’s like 3 extra brain cells work to just call them what they ask, way to much effort to mess with them or cause animosity.
While transitioning I’m sure they understand there will be genuine mixups.
My kids started saying “it’s not that deep” and seems to really fit here.
Check these fields on a common job application form. Top row? Fine. The rest? I’m not taking that person seriously.

“I’m a special little elf and I insist you address me as such.”
Yeah I really try to be inclusive but I’m with you here, that shit is whack. You’re not a fucking bionicle. We’re all trying our best to be nice to you and your new identity, but if you ask me to call you a fairy, I’m going to laugh in your face. I’ll feel bad about it later, probably, but I will do a spit-take in the moment.
Calling it now: The top three stick and the rest will be laughed about it 20 years, if not 10.
I used to believe I had an ex-girlfriend in Chicago, but once that person came out as nonbinary trans with he/they pronouns I now know that I have an ex-boyfriend/ex-theyfriend in Chicago.
You, from your perspective at that time, did not. History cannot be retconned. You had a girlfriend, and that person changed their definitions at a later time.
I used to think Tankies were misguided but harmless. Now I understand, if they got their way, they’d be dangerous.
I got into a fairly in depth conversation with one of them where they explained that they believed that the suspension of freedom, suppression of speech and expression, and sustained authoritarianism were necessary to achieve the socialist utopia. Except worse, they believe that these bad things should be in place until the entire world was socialist. If even one country wasn’t socialist, that would be the justification for suppression on the rest of the entire world. So essentially they’re defending worldwide authoritarianism and suppression of everyone in perpetuity.
I’d point you to this conversation so you could be your own judge, but true to their suppression methods, they exercised their own authoritarianism, deleted all my posts on the subject leaving only their own, because they said I was speaking against socialism and that can’t be allowed fulfilling the exact authoritarianism and suppression I was citing as a problem with their philosophy.
but you don’t understand, if only we murder and kill everyone until they are socialist then we’d finally never have to murder and kill again! unlike those evil capitalists who just go around murdering babies and grandmas, we are so much better than them! we only murder babies and grandmas who aren’t socialist!
if only we murder and kill everyone until they are socialist
tankies don’t like socialists, they call them liberals. they would slaughter socialists, too.
They seem to call U.S. Republicans liberals as well.
They are not great at selling their position to the uninitiated. They demand you read their books and learn their definitions before you are permitted to exist. Asking questions gets you banned in many of their communities. I guess there’s a good reason their instances are often defederated from the bigger instances.
That progress is inevitable.
gestures wildly
Progress is inevitable. The problem is the person(s) in charge determines the definition of the word “progress” at that moment.
This feels basic now but I used to be very ‘pro tech’ and would have latest-ish phones, getting smart gadgets, etc.
Now I consider those features to be negatives and refuse to buy things with internet, if possible.
I’ve been thinking about this a lot the last few years. I was huge into electronics and gadgets and such 10-15 years ago. Things were fun and exciting. Now there isn’t any real fun or experimentation or uniqueness in electronics. Phones are just a black slab with minor differences in features. Every new gadget has to be set up with your phone and then requires a monthly subscription.
It was always a money making venture, but every new iteration seems to cost more and do less. It’s depressing.
I have a theme for total launcher that makes My phone a PADD with LCARS.
The use of language. My mom was a proofreader for a handful of local editorials, so the “correctness” of language was pushed very hard on to me from very little. As a result, I pushed for “correct” language onto others very hard as well. And this isnt about English, but my birth language, which has lots of conjugation rules, gendering details, grammar quirks and special cases; so people do tend to deviate from proper grammar a lot in informal settings (and sometimes in formal as well). I became a “language nazi” of sorts, and noticed quickly how people spoke fearfully in front of me to avoid making mistakes and getting corrected. This was something I (regretfully) took pride of.
Until one day, a friend of mine which specialized in languages said to me: “Language isn’t prescriptive; it’s descriptive”. And it took a while, a plethora of questions, and infinite patience from her, but I eventually came around and understood what she was saying: language is what we use to convey ideas from one to the other. We stick to a given language and grammar (structure) because that’s the common agreement for the language speakers, in the expectations that it makes for easier communication. BUT, if a sentence can transmit correctly a thought, even when not using a word in the dictionary or not applying grammar rules, then it’s fine as long as me (or whomever is the interlocutor) understands what they’re trying to say. Furthermore, even when using proper grammar with “existing words”, communication can be confusing and requires clarification. If you can make up a word in the spot that better conveys what you’re trying to say, then I’m all for it! (And probably will start using it myself). If you learned to speak a certain way and call stuff a different name from what I learned, or if you add extra letters to the word because that’s what you were taught by your family (something very usual) then that’s cool and I’ll respect it.
TLDR: Language has no rules. It is what we make of it.
Fairnuff!
Reading Stephen King broke me of this as a teen 40-years ago.
“Hey! That’s not proper English! You can’t use punctuation like that! Did he just make that word up?!”
I had always made A’s in English and was stunned that this popular author often flouted the rules. But, as you said, he conveyed his descriptions brilliantly.
I know you said English isn’t your native language, but I’m choosing to believe the grammar and punctuation mistakes in your post are just there to troll people who are still “language Nazis”. :-P
However, I was led to believe that some languages are prescriptive. For example, French has Académie Française. I was told (no idea how true it is) that it’s actually “in charge” of the language, so they get to decide what is “right”. The wiki page seems to indicate that they decide what goes in the French dictionary. That being said, I have no idea what authority they actually have outside of that. I doubt they’re issuing fines for using loanwords.
The Académie thinks you should say “joueur-animateur en direct” instead of “streamer” or I guess “stremur” which literally no one does, so if an Académie prescribes a language but no one follows the rules, does it make a language?
Yes, that’s precisely my point. The language is a living being, and any authority pretending to rule over it is just smoke; word will be spoken, meanings will be given. Literally like the words “literally”, which now has a double meaning due to common (mis?)use.
I used to be a conservative Christian. I was vehemently opposed to things like gay marriage and abortion.
Then I actually moved to a larger city and met gay people and, well, that became the crux of my deconstruction. Turns out people are people, no matter where or how they’re born, or what they choose to be or identify as.
My views on abortion have changed, to the point where I very much do not believe in fetal personhood, though I still think late-term abortions should be shied away from if they can be avoided. Regardless, it makes no sense to remove a woman’s right to choose how her body is used. It’s hers. If she doesn’t want to put her body through childbirth, or doesn’t want to take on the immense burden of raising a child, she shouldn’t have to. But, at the same time, dudes should be aware of what they can inflict upon a woman just because ‘it doesn’t feel as good’ with a condom on. Wrap it before you tap it, boys.
what they choose to be
Sometimes biological preference is biology and not preference, though. Something to continue ruminating on.
I thought the preceeding words in the sentece made that clear.
Turns out people are people, no matter where or how they’re born, or what they choose to be or identify as.
or what they choose to be or identify as.
Still can’t help but repeat tired old anti LGBTQ+ rhetoric though. Still framing it as a choice.
Maybe you didn’t even realize you did it, I don’t know.
Perhaps you misread.
The flu vaccine (pre Covid). Always been pro vax in general, just never saw the need since I never had symptomatic flu. My immune system is good enough, right?
Well, it was like a switch flipped in my brain. One day, I suddenly realized getting the shot isn’t about me. If I don’t vaccinate, I get the flu, and I don’t have symptoms.
That makes me a carrier. I’m a disease vector. Somewhere throughout my day, I’m going to pass it on to some immunocompromised person, and I will be the reason someone’s grandma doesn’t make it for the holidays.
“Just the flu” still kills hundreds of thousands of people every year.
I lost a lot of respect for a coworker over this.
This was pre pandemic. They brought a nurse into the office to give everyone who wanted a flu vaccine. She wouldn’t do it.
I said to her that if she got the flu, she’d probably live, but she’d also pass it on to other people. She’d be contagious before she knew she was sick, so she might be on the subway and infect a bunch of vulnerable people. Old ladies. Little babies. Anyone.
She was like no that’s not how it works. That’s not going to happen.
I was like, why not? In what way is that not how it works?
“I’ll just stay home if I’m sick”
“What about when you’re contagious and don’t realize? Or if it hits when you’re already at work?”
“That won’t happen”
Just denial.
Can’t convince people with facts. You have to play on their emotions. Make them feel good about themselves, or reinforce something they believe in. I can’t always figure out how to do that
Wait, does the flu vaccine actually work like that? I didn’t kmow it did anything to dampen transmission. I’ve never gotten it because I have such intense needle phobia it didn’t seem worth it, but if this is true, then it has more benefits than I realized and that kinda changed the calculus a little
It’s basically a numbers game. With a vaccine the flu can’t spread through your body because you have immunity. Meaning your body can fight of the flu so you don’t get sick/have symptoms (or at least all of that is greatly diminished). Since the flu can’t spread in your body, there is less flu in you for you to spread to others.
So more people vaccinated means less viral load in the community which means less people spreading and therefore getting the flu.
I guess that does kinda make sense, less viral load in the commumity = better. I always thought that, because it might only protect against 80% of the flu strains out there (or however good we guess for the season), that herd immunity can’t be achieved and there was no point
I definitely never heard of it presented as a measure to protect people around me
Yes, vaccination primarily reduces odds of infection. No infection = no transmission. Secondarily, vaccination reduces the symptoms of an active infection if you get one anyways.
No. This person is clueless. vaccines don’t prevent you from catching a disease. they simple allow your immune system to deal with it better. the flu vaccine means when you do get the flu it will more like cold.
you are getting sick all the time, it’s just that your immune system works well against things it knows. you only get sick sick when you encounter a bug that your immune system hasn’t ID’d and can’t fight.
you can still spread viruses and bacteria to other people even without symptoms. you are doing it all the time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Herd_immunity
Stop spreading antivax pseudoscience
When your immune system kicks a virus out, you don’t catch the disease.
For your immune system to kick it out, it has to be in first.
You never get symptomatic flu? Can you please get to yourself to the nearest research hospital and get started on the genetic immunity or whatever it is you have. You may be the key for saving millions of lives and untold suffering.
A large portion of the population have immune systems that keep them from having symptoms of common diseases, or symptoms so mild don’t notice. That’s part of why transmission rates aren’t 100%.
Only 1 in 200 people get the flu each year. Lots of people never catch the flu in their life. Flu is pretty rare compared to the common cold.
1 in 200? No. Funny how the ones who don’t provide sources are the ones who spread nonsense.
1 Billion people a year get it. That is roughly 1 in 8.
Of these 3-5 million get severe illness, and out of that you get roughly 300-600k deaths.
This is mine too. Pre covid, my thought process was “I’m young and healthy and have had the flu twice in the last 15 years, I’d rather save the shots for someone who needs them, not me! I’ll just keep working my retail job and going to school even if I’m a little achey and sniffly, I can tough it out!”
Now I get them both every year. I still kinda feel like I’m taking a shot away from someone who needs it more, but I’m just trying to do my part!
If I don’t vaccinate, I get the flu, and I don’t have symptoms.
That makes me a carrier. I’m a disease vector.
This is flawed. Vaccinated people clear quicker; and asymptomatic people aren’t spreaders. This is just ‘shedder’ bullshit, and you’d benefit from re-examining it or consulting someone with a relevant degree.
User says they’re all for vaccines now
Accuse them of being antivaxxer
???Will say it’s kinda funny seeing a word created in ignorance used itself in further ignorance.
you can spread diseases with being asymtopatic. it very much depends on the strain. people with the covid vaccine could still get covid and spread covid.
it’s just that with the vaccine the risk of dying from it was gone, which is predominately for older adults.
we never gave covid vaccine to kids because it was no threat to them.
but OP here is very confident in their delusional understanding of how a vaccine works and what it is. and thinks it’s a ‘cure’ for a disease. because they have a vastly oversimplified idea that is factually wrong.
After the October 7 attack I was very pro isreal. Of course it’s totally unacceptable for a neighbor to enter one’s territory and kill hundreds of innocent civilians. You can’t commit such an act of terrorism without consequences. However I have seen that the Israeli invasion has been all but moral and the use of the word genocide feels more and more justified. It has gone way over board and I have staunchly become anti isreal. The war was supposed to be a war on Hamas but the innocent civilians in Gaza have had to bear with unbelievable suffering which I no longer believe justifies the war.
I hope that since then you’ve done some research about the history of the region and conflict. Hamas was not unprovoked.
What made you not realize the decades of Israeli aggression that caused October 7?
US media has spun such a one sided narrative for decades that I never looked close enough to to catch on that it was whitewashing genocide. October 7th and the Israeli reaction was comparable to the US genocide of Native Americans both through the dehumanization and pbvious propaganda that I started paying more attention. The more details came out, including the apartheid state structure, the less I felt that there will ever be a peaceful two state solution when Israel is an expansionist culture that cannot accept or acknowledge the right to exist of the Palestinians whose land they stole, much less the soverignty of their neighbors.
I was in the same boat (outside of being already critical regarding israels illegal settlements in the west bank). Main reason was that growing up in Austria, criticizing anything jewish was practically a taboo, and the only ones doing it publicly were the far right, which delegitimized all of it in public discussion.
It took their atrocities to make me realize how much effort Israels Zionists are putting into trying to tie Judaism/Ethnic Jews/Zionism together, so that blaming Israel can be countered by accusing anyone to be an antisemite. (I also have to say that for how good Israel is at Psyops, they really botched this one on the world stage.) I also realized that the conflict became a lot more one sided over the years; in the 80s and 90s there still was a push for a 2-state solution, and attacks in both directions were a common occurrence. Nowadays Israelis getting hurt is often the direct result of repressive action from Israels side.
Oct 7 might very well have been an false flag op in retrospective. It gave Bibi the chance to annex all of Gaza, Genocide be damned. It’s similar to Putins staged apartment complex attack.
I cannot believe that the vaunted Israeli intelligence apparatus, perhaps the best on the planet, didn’t have a clue such a massive attack was coming.
It’s pretty much been confirmed that Netanyahu let it happen.
Then there’s this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Directive
Bibi received warnings from multiple sources that an attack was planned and yet weren’t troops moved away from the venue where it occurred in days before?
Yeah, the troops patrolling the border were told to stop patrols that morning!
as someone who went through the same, it was mostly lack of attention. i had a vague idea that israel and palestine hated each other, and it was easy to understand from a perspective of israel taking palestinian land, but when you don’t think about it too much it’s easy to both sides it or feel like the supposedly western, supposedly democratic one has a point. i think a lot of people in the west had that vague, unrefined view when oct 7 happened, and it’s easy to stand with someone who just suffered a terror attack.
but it just kept being a focus in media, and the more you look into it, the clearer israel’s crimes against humanity become. and the crazy part is that the vague perspective of israel taking the land for themselves is absolutely correct, but when you see it for the real atrocity it is, rather than an abstract curiosity, it’s impossible to side with the occupiers if you’re not a bigot.
I can only add that, as much as I despise what occurred to Israel that day, it achieved their objectives in a way nothing else probably could have. It’s difficult to morally reconcile, but the evil they committed against Israel exposed a greater evil Israel was committing against them.

















