In my country, the central bank is creating inflation through its policies. That’s a common function of the central banks. (Who controls all these central banks ?)
Considering the fact that we’re already paying the taxes through the form of inflation, why should the government tax us on top of that ?
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As long as they deliver I can tolerate a lot of taxes.
Deliver what ??
You sound like an American lol
You clearly have a very limited grasp on economics and politics, so maybe read some books for free at your local library. You can take the bus there on roads kept safe by engineers and traffic wardens that work for the state.
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The word deliver isn’t in their comment.
Taxes are just payment for the stuff the government does. You’re basically asking how much an unspecified thing should cost, but that’s obviously going to depend on what that thing is. If the government does seemingly nothing with the taxes, or spends them on things people don’t like or want, people will be angry even if they’re taxed very little. If the taxes are spent on things that make people’s lives better, people will be happy even if they’re taxed a lot.
Taxes are just payment for the stuff the government does.
Not really - no government needs us to pay for stuff. After all, they literally just create the stuff out of thin air. It’s our labour that they require.
Taxes is mostly just how governments delete money from the economy.
Labor isn’t stuff? We can get pedantic and say that the government isn’t doing the labor, government-hired laborers do, but regardless, how much labor gets done depends on how many taxes were collected to pay for it.
The government is there just to tax the people. Society would still exist without any government.
I mean, you can make a case for that being the truth at the moment, but obviously we didn’t create the concept of a government just to be taxed. Even when we were in small tribes we likely looked to a leader to organize hunts and make sure everyone got food even if they were in charge of other duties. It gets corrupted like any other form of power eventually does, but it’s still useful when it’s working.
Ultimately it’s probably best if we get all-new governments every few decades just to flush out the corruption, but I imagine even that will be corrupted eventually. At the end of the day we need both a system in place to ensure fairness and equality for those who can’t fight for it themselves, as well as the strength to destroy that system when it inevitably turns evil.
This is what’s happening in my country at the moment.
That’s great! Anything that brings attention to the failures of the current corrupt governments, especially in young people, is a step in the right direction! We can’t put good systems into place until we dismantle the rotten ones.
Absolutely 💯💯
depends on how many taxes were collected to pay for it.
Again… nobody that has the ability to create currency out of thin air requires your taxes to pay for anything.
Did you really think the US military is funded through taxes? No. That’s a liberal myth. The US government invents the money and simply hands it to the military-industrial complex. All that luxurious funding used to slaughter brown people all over the world doesn’t cause inflation because of your taxes. You can see this perfectly clearly in (supposedly) “socialist” states in Europe - the Danish government decides to spend more on healthcare and adjusts the taxes to prevent inflation… which Danish people are happy to pay, of course, because they get something out of it (surprisingly, slaughtering brown people all over the world doesn’t seem to get USians anything)
Okay, so a place like the US takes trillions of dollars in taxes, deletes it from the economy, then invents trillions of different dollars and hands it to the military-industrial complex. Either way, trillions are coming out of one place and trillions are going to another. Doesn’t really change much.
change much.
If this doesn’t “change much” why do they spend billions every year to ensure you don’t understand any of it?
Bud, I was already humoring your ideas. I got enough of this from my conspiracy theory mom before she died trying to follow scam medical treatments that the government had supposedly been keeping from us. I’m not about to get into what’s being hidden from me again.
I don’t trust the government to tell the truth at all, but that doesn’t mean I trust anyone else to know the truth that the government is supposedly spending billions to keep from me, either. You want to tell me taxes aren’t used for what I think they’re used for? Sure, I can believe that. You want to tell me that you know what the are used for? That you of all people have the billion dollar secret? I trust that even less than what the government tells me they’re used for.
I’d rather tear it all down and build the tax system the way it’s supposed to work than figure out all the intricacies of how it’s being manipulated right now.
I’m not about to get into what’s being hidden from me again.
Oh, perish the thought. Governments hiding anything from you? Prepostorous! Don’t worry, Clyde - Obama didn’t really bail out the bankers that caused the Great Recession, Israel isn’t really perpetrating a genocide, climate change truly is a hoax, horse dewormer does cure COVID, and the ongoing dismemberment of the internet really IS all about “protecting children!”
Did that lull you back into sleep?
No?
I wonder why.
that the government is supposedly spending billions to keep from me, either.
You think those lapdog economists they put on tv - you know, the ones that routinely tell you that the rich getting richer while the poor got poorer qualifies as “economic recoveries” - comes for free?
That you of all people have the billion dollar secret?
Lol! It’s supposed to be a secret?
You support governments dragging you into wars ?
Did you not read the comment?
or spends them on things people don’t like or want, people will be angry even if they’re taxed very little.
I did. But it seems people in Europe seems to be okay with wars. They seem very enthusiastic about it.
Quite often it’s the vocal minority that wants wars. Media loves giving them attention, because war is good for business.
War is good for business !! There’s common sense in that statement. It doesn’t solve any problem as such, never did. And you would have to run along the history of Europe since the Greeks when it has ever been a peaceful place !!
As for the vocal minority, the government, the media and the religious institutions have always been hands in glove.
Most governments, and people in power in general, have realized that instead of doing what people want, they can instead raise a new generation of people to want what the government decides they should want through propaganda. At this point, even if your own country doesn’t employ much propaganda, the rest of the population will make sure you hear it anyway, kinda like herd immunity. So yes, a lot of people want war, to the point where they will happily pay more taxes to get it, all according to plan.
But the world is getting polarized. Not sure about Europe though.
The Wealth of Nations was clearly a manifesto for plundering. Whom ? The common man who creates goods and services for the community.
The book was written and published in the UK by the way.
