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Uriel238 [all pronouns]@lemmy.blahaj.zone to 196@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish · 4 days ago

Defensive Voting

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    Thank fuck someone is saying this. There are a few posters in c/progressivepolitics that seem to be saying Democrats have to pass all their purity tests or you shouldn’t vote and that’s nuts because it hands Republicans elections. Luckily they usually get downvoted

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      “Purity tests.” And the test is just don’t do a genocide.

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        Fucking literally.

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        “Purity test” just means “I have no standards and I expect you to abandon yours.”

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        deleted by creator

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      How did Biden & Obama free ICE Slavery & Guantanamo again?

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        How did Biden & Obama free ICE Slavery & Guantanamo again?

        Exhibit A. Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good in a first past the post voting system, or you lose hard

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          Where is the good?

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          Don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good

          Centrists think genocide is “the good”.

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          So you agree? First Past the Post Electoralism is enemy of freedom, and allows no room for revolution to take place?

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            Yes, obviously to anyone paying attention. How does letting republicans get elected help get rid of first past the post though?

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              Then what populist do I motion to get rid off the electoral college?

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                https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5043206-senate-democrats-abolish-electoral-college/

                Looks like there’s 3 Democrat senators who tried to abolish the Electoral College in 2024. You should go see what those three guys are doing now, and if you can volunteer to help them. Maybe if they get enough popular support, they can try again. You should go and see if they have a plan for next steps, if maybe there’s a candidate in your local primaries that they support.

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                  if you can volunteer to help them. Maybe if they get enough popular support, they can try again.

                  That's on me, I set my anarchism too low

                  Senator, Senator, Senator

                  What did they vote on regarding ICE thrice?

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                    So you’re your perfect candidate then, go run for office.

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            If you want to lay down and die that’s your perogative.

            The rest is self righteousness.

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              Why would I lay, when there’s victims to intersect, and people to empower?

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                I wish you the best.

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        Obama literally tried to close it and Republicans fought tooth and nail to stop that.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/wp/2016/02/23/top-republicans-slam-obamas-plan-to-close-guantanamo/

        https://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/republican-senators-guantanamo-114223

        https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/conyers-10-years-later-and-congressional-republicans-still-refuse-to-close-guantanamo-detention-center

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          Damn Democratic Senators and their Nazi ways!

          Why didn’t Obama do another executive order to bypass the Senate‽

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