• JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org
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    7 days ago

    The whole seeing the universe is probably not just because we invented wheels. There’s been many people who’ve all described seeing different versions of “The Wheel” during salvia trips - but also in near death experiences sometimes.

    It’s quite possible that these types of hallucinations could have contributed to the concept of the samsara, and possibly angels and other concepts relating to divinity.

    Edit: to add personal anecdote, I’ve previously seen this hallucination after taking a bad rip off a bong. No one else had issues. My guess is that my brain was not getting enough oxygen since I was having trouble breathing. I basically tripped this while laying face down on a bean bag for several hours.

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      7 days ago

      hah lol good story :D on a more serious note, i hope you’re doing fine.

      also, maybe hallucinations are partially influenced by what we’ve seen before, and by what is in our subconscious. wheels are pretty widespread, so one coming up in a dream isn’t particularly unlikely, i would say.

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        7 days ago

        It wore off, and I haven’t had that experience since. There was a solid week after, though, where I was paranoid that I would go back into that hallucination. I imagine that’s fairly normal.

        I could definitely see the ‘flipbook’ effect experienced being heavily influenced by past experiences. The ‘wheel’, though, is a massive circular thing of colors and geometries, so it’s not really based on any experiences. The depictions of the samsara do have interesting similarities, and it would not surprise me if ancient people tripped, then tried to describe the trip they had, and came back with the samsara. I could also see how describing the wheel as having many eyes could make it fit the description of biblically accurate angels.