• vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    It’s always China this Soviets that with the fucken examples. No one ever fucken talks about the Yugoslav mixed system, Communalist towns, Black Ukraine, or even when Syndicalists took over neighborhoods. Just as capitalism can range from late merchantslism, social democracy, and laze fare so can socialism or communism.

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      1 month ago

      Laissez-faire not laze fare.

      It means to let be in French.

      100% agree with you.

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      1 month ago

      Because none of those never amounted to anything of significance. Because it doesnt scale.

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        1 month ago

        I mean, don’t it? The CIA did a lot to squash anything resembling a little bit too much like an experiment on the matter- foreign or domestic, ally or foe.

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        Yugoslavia existed for decades before it was torn apart by ethnic tensions which would’ve happened regardless of what economic system they used.

        Communalist towns were largely stable up until they basically aged out of functioning due to birthrate issues. Lots of them were weird little religious communities which are just kinda subject to population collapse.

        Black Ukraine didn’t last long enough to really do much of anything because of the Bolsheviks, could’ve failed or succeeded but it’s impossible to tell which what would’ve happened.

        Syndicalist neighborhoods were almost all wiped out by the Pinkertons. But the ones that lasted the longest were well on track to democratically seizing some cities and townships.

        I chose my list the way I did because none of them failed due to the system themselves, they either collapsed due to pre-existing social issues or were destroyed by outside forces.