• surewhynotlem@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    Decades ago…

    “Why do I need electricity? I have candles. Lights seem excessive.”

    Yes, but once most people have electricity, new products will be designed to take advantage of it. Now you can have a washing machine, for example.

    Broadband is the same. Once most of your population has high bandwidth, we can start to design things that will use it. Right now we’re still designing for DSL speeds.

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      13 hours ago

      That’s entirely speculative. There are diminishing returns. Unless you’re going to host your own YouTube, the use case for 50Gbps connections to the home is quite small. 4K video streaming at Ultra HD Blu-ray bitrates doesn’t even come close to saturating 1Gbps, and all streaming services compress 4K video significantly more than what Ultra HD Blu-ray offers. The server side is the limit, not home connections.

      Now, if you want to talk about self-hosting stuff and returning the Internet to a more peer-to-peer architecture, then you need IPv6. Having any kind of NAT in the way is not going to work. Connection speed still isn’t that important.

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        7 hours ago

        there could be some new thing that no one has not even bothered to think about because of the limitations. Imagine streaming back when downloading few kilobytes for an hours was considered reasonable, people would have laughed at the very thought of it.

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          We’re not using the bandwidth we have. Many US cities have service with 1Gbps download speed available. I have it for my own reasons. Servers are the bottleneck; they rarely even reach half that speed.

          If we’re not using 1Gbps, why should we believe something would pop up if we had 50Gbps?

          Now, direct addressing where everyone can be a server and bandwidth utilization is spread more towards the edges of the network? Then you have something that could saturate 1Gbps. But you can’t do that on IPv4.

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        11 hours ago

        Unless you’re going to host your own YouTube…

        This is exactly what peer tube is struggling with. This bandwidth would solve the video federation problem.

        See, you get it!

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          11 hours ago

          Except we need IPv6 before that’s at all viable.

          We are not even filling out the bandwidth of pipes we have to the home right now. “If you build it, they will come” does not apply when there’s already something there that isn’t being fully utilized.

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        13 hours ago

        How exactly does NAT prevent that? On good hardware it adds insignificant latency.

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          13 hours ago

          It has nothing to do with latency, and everything to do with not being able to directly address things behind NAT.

          Edit: and please, nobody argue that NAT increases security. That dumbass argument should have died the moment it was first uttered.

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        12 hours ago

        China morally bankrupt and developing at a staggering pace which has somewhat stymied as their scoffing at regulations in favor of backroom dealings is kneecapping themselves.

        So if you zoom in close enough, like looking at this amazingly fast reported internet speed and only at this speed, China “good.”

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      13 hours ago

      So I’m just going to be a completely different person once I have access to these speeds or you are suggesting new tech that will be made available to consumers?

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        11 hours ago

        The second one.

        Think back to when you were on dial-up. The concept of a streaming movie service would have been a fantasyland. No one was creating one. The infrastructure wasn’t there. It was impossible.

        As soon as people started getting broadband, and enough people got it, streaming services could exist.

        Are you different? No, you just want to watch a movie. But now you don’t have to go to Blockbuster.