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        Google is in the process of undermining the effectiveness of uBlock Origin and other adblockers on Chrome and other Chromium browsers. I believe that change comes into effect this year.

        But even before those changes were announced, uBlock Origin’s creator and main dev has stated that uBO is most capable on Firefox.

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        Does it work flawlessly on Android, iOS, and desktop? I’m really asking, because I ditched Chrome when it was less shitty than it currently is…

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          The Orion browser for iOS is capable of using Firefox and Chrome extensions, although support can be a little spotty. Ublock works quite well though.

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          All iOS browsers have to use Webkit (or did last time I checked). So there’s not much of a point of running Firefox on iOS. It’s basically the same browser no matter what browser it says it is.

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              It is, but Apple being Apple, they are going all malicious compliance and will break evening else for non-Safari browsers lol

              Also this only applies in EU. To use 3rd party apps stores you won’t be able to leave the EU for more than 30 days at a time as well

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    I’m all for people using Firefox instead of Chrome, but RAM being used up shouldn’t be a complaint unless something else needs that RAM. If it’s there, it should be considered usable.

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        It’s specifically about the efficiency of the usage. If it’s not used effectively, then it really is a waste.

        And we all know how efficient the Web is nowadays…

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          Why could ram usage be a waste? I thought only the allocation is the performance heavy part, allocated ram does not cost extra performance.

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            I’m referring to the philosophy behind the usage of said allocated ram.

            If you allocate 5 cookie jars to store 1 cookie in each jar, then that’s not good.

            If you store 2 cookies per jar, that’s better already, but still kind of crap.

            If the websites keep putting rocks in those jars, then you’ll obviously run rampant with usage. (Read: https://tonsky.me/blog/js-bloat/ )

            The goal is to store as many cookies in least amount of jars. You might crumble them down and reconstruct them later (compression and/or clever code) but that could take more brain (processing) power (of which we kinda have, especially on the desktop).

            As you’ve said, it’s often a tradeoff between processing power and memory usage and depending on the application, you can configure things the way you need them (at least when you’re coding it).

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    Firefox users may very well be doing that and no one will know because Google is not spying on them through their browser.

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              Google still has control over Chromium. Manifest v3 is a Chromium thing, not a Chrome thing. All forks of Chromium will get it and none of the browsers using Chromium as a base has moved to fork and maintain their own version of Chromium.

              This means that Google effectively has a monopoly over all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko based, which is a tiny portion of all browsers. Leading to Google deciding how people access the internet. It’s already worrying that Google is the internet for a lot of people, the fact that they can do more or less anything with Chromium means that they can do whatever they want with the web standard.

              That should be a major concern for everyone. Chromium needs to be taken away from Google.

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                all browsers that aren’t WebKit or Gecko

                I don’t get this part. Are all engines other than those 2, based on Chromium?

                Perhaps you are forgetting Ze great Konqueror ?

                Because it has always been KHTML.

                There’s a meme for that. Check it out

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                  I think Konquerer is no longer actively maintained.

                  Fun fact (which you may already know) the two most popular browser engines today are based on KHTML)

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              But Chrome, the actual application you download (as well as several forks), is closed source.

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                  But that’s not the real issue. The issue is that any Chromium-based browser – open source or not – helps Google maintain hegemony over web standards. Even if makers of other Chromium-based browsers try to maintain a fork of the rendering engine, they’ll be perpetually playing catch-up removing user-hostile misfeatures because Google controls the upstream branch.

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      Damn… is this why I feel so empty inside? I’m using Firefox but no tail plug or furry action?

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      “I’m so used to getting fucked by Chrome and Edge that I just feel like something’s missing if I don’t.”

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      I actually got kicked out of school because I wouldn’t use internet explorer, but Firefox is still the best option. Always was. Even if you need a special chair.

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          Well, it was high school, and they didn’t like my tail plug. Kept calling it ‘inappropriate’. I kept laying out my arguments for why chrome and IE are trash, but they just could not tolerate open source, I guess.

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      Wait, didn’t you all get the free furry butt-plug when you downloaded FF?

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        I’ve been walking around with it “plugged in” for 20 years. I did try Ice Weasel once, but that was simply too cold for my sensitive insides.

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    people don’t complain to get solutions, they complain so everyone knows how miserable they are

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    I was at a party a few weeks ago and when we needed to use a web browser, one of the first things that happened was one of the attendees taking the computer to install FireFox.

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        Me circa 1993: This world-wide web thing is interesting, but it will never replace Gopher.

        True story.

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          Me too! I remember mansplaining to my girlfriend at the time how long it would take to visit a page and download images, and how nobody would wait that long to see pictures of cats. I underestimated how much people really want to see cat photos.

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      it’s chromium
      also they have done some shady stuff in the past and the ceo is a homophobe

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        also they have done some shady stuff in the past and the ceo is a hardcore homophobe

        It’s a boy-who-cried-wolf situation. Too many false homophobia accusations have gone around for be to believe any of them anymore.