I’m not sorry. Seeing someone who spread so much hate and bigotry and weaponized disinformation get his clock cleaned was absolutely fine by me.
I have empathy for lots of people even if we don’t always agree, but not for people like Charlie Kirk.
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Charlie Kirk died while doing what he loved:
Being a horrible horrible person, and a blight on humanity.
He died in the midst of what he loved: a school shooting.
I guess he was the violent gun death he hoped for to keep the 2A.
Gotta be high on the list of most ironic deaths of 2025.
I have said it before, and I will say it again.
Empathy is a huge strength, lack of it is a huge weakness.
“In my work with the defendants (at the Nuremberg Trails 1945-1949) I was searching for the nature of evil and I now think I have come close to defining it. A lack of empathy. It’s the one characteristic that connects all the defendants, a genuine incapacity to feel with their fellow men. Evil, I think, is the absence of empathy.”Quotation: Captain G. M. Gilbert, the Army psychologist assigned to watching the defendants at the Nuremberg trials
Yep, that is very accurate, an empathic society is a strong society, the empathy patches the cracks that happen when others fail, helping them gives them the opportunity to later help others.
In any logical sense, empathy will win.
Lack of empathy means that you loose all of that, creating a very brittle society.
“All words are made up.” - Thor
Empathy: a made up word that apparently most people in this thread dont have.
Seriously, can no one see the irony in hating this sick fuck of a waste of air, and everything he stands for, but then using his views as justification for his death?
You are mocking him for saying empathy isnt real, which ironically shows an absolute lack of empathy and an admission that you agree with him.
Just stop and take a breath.
He was an absolute prick and i am not sad he is gone. But somebody was shot and killed and all you can do is point an laugh.
How can you stand on any moral high ground when there are any other shootings or murders that you want people to mourn.
Empathy does not come without conditions.
Example, Trump is a vile human being, I feel no empathy towards him.
I feel empathy towards the people who, as we say in Sweden, bites the sour apple and interacts with him out of necessity while maintaining their professionalism.
I can even feel empathy toward the first wave MAGA crowd, plenty of them was deceived and fooled into believing their lies, and the weak democrats only acting as a ratchet and not reversing the GOPs decisions when they could have. I feel empathy toward them for having been brainwashed for generations into believing that socialism is bad, that line must go up, but that things can never improve more than marginally.
The US government has failed is people, I have no empathy toward the people perpetuating the status quo
Yeah, sorry i conceeded elsewhere that empathy was not what i meant. I appreciate what you are saying.
I just have 2 points. 1 is that feeling pleasure in watching someone dying gruesomely is concerning.
And 2. Applauding and validating this shooting goes both ways. If you don’t oppos3 this then you are opening the doors and saying its ok for anyone to shoot anyone if they have an opinion.
Kirk may have been a complete fake and just peddling propaganda and nonsense. A vile creature but from the rights point of view, thats what left wing equivalents are doing. From their perspective its ok to retaliate.
I think it s3ts a dangerous precedent and people should be careful how they go forward with this.
It’s perfectly fine, showing empathy towards people who does not, is an increadible strength.
Depending on the situation, it could even change their views.
However, someone who tries to argue that empathy is bad, a weakness, does deserve to get a taste of what true lack of empathy is.
If I saw Trump or Vance alone on in a forest with a broken bone in the middle of winter, would I help? Yes, but i would be a huge dick about it once I realized who they were.
It’s about consistency. This is man who said, in the wake of school shootings, that a few gun deaths every year is a worthy cost for gun rights. This is a man that said empathy was a made up woke term that causes a lot of damage.
Why should anyone have empathy for him being shot at a school? Not caring about those kinds of victims was his entire platform. This is karma, divine poetic justice, and I’m not going to ignore that. He got precisely what he deserved.
Yeah, i guess i was wrong, i guess I’m not talking about empathy. Like morally you are right not not mourn his death, but the prevailing sentiment in the thread is one of taking pleasure in watching that video of him bleeding profusely from the neck.
Frankly, the idea of that not instantly invoking in you a similar torrent of vomit, is alien to me.
I guess it’s just so… poignant. The poetic justice of it counteracts any revulsion.
It’s REALLY different, when you’re the specific kind of person he spent his life degrading, defaming, and spreading hateful rhetoric about, so that he could harm you. Successfully. They are teaching his garbage in schools. Right now. So that he can train children to hate me. Specifically. My family. My friends and neighbors.
I’m sorry you don’t get this, but when the racism, the hate, the violence, the laws being passed to try and make life impossible. when they DIRECTLY and explicitly effect YOU. Not “they came for the communists” but for YOU. it’s a very different kind of feeling than when it’s just a group you don’t give a shit about.
Charlie Kirk didn’t hate you. I can tell. Because if he hated you as much as he hated me. and spend as much time as he did talking about how other people needed to hate you as much as he talked about people needing to hate me, you wouldn’t be saying this stupid ass shit.
The OP posted that they enjoyed WATCHING him die. If you saw that video and felt joy, then i think there is something wrong.
I feel joy that he is deadm that he is gone. He cant keep spreading his shit everywhere.
I did not enjoy watching him die.
Where is your humanity if you took pleasure in watching that video.
2 things can be true. You can be happy he died but not enjoy watching it.
Thats all i am trying to say.
I already conceeded the empathy thing.
I haven’t watched it and don’t want to watch it either. I don’t need to see someone’s neck explode, no matter whose it is. I feel like if I were to watch it, some deep part of myself would never be the same. I’d forever have watched somebody die. And not “watch somebody die” like when I was 12 and we all watched people jump out of 100+ story windows on every news channel (which was disturbing enough.) I mean “watch somebody die” as in seeing their face as the light leaves their eyes. I don’t want that in my heart forevermore, even if the person who died was the devil incarnate.
However, I understand why others are watching it with schadenfreude. Humans have been making spectacles of death for quite some time. Public executions used to be community events. It probably feels very cathartic to a lot of people to see someone they consider “evil” be “dealt justice.” This particular death may have been especially relieving, since it was apparently a comedically-timed, over-the-top explosion.
I don’t personally feel the way others here feel, but I can’t judge them for it either. With how few wins we’ve seen over the past decade, I’m not surprised that this video is as popular as it seems to be.
“Y’all are all about ‘shoot Nazis, kill Nazis’ until a Nazi dies. Then it’s ‘Oh but that Nazi had a family.’ Fuck off.”
I mean, I feel bad for his kids assuming it ever dawns on them that dad was famous for being a lying sack of shit and left this world after being struck with 150 grains of irony (not sure what actual weight of projectile did him in, but old milsurp seems fitting).
New band name, I call it
It’s all yours
so glad that I can evade all consequences forever by knocking up bitch
Well, I don’t wish ill on anybody. But when it does happen to some people, schadenfreude can be enjoyable.
Rest in piss Charlie.
Like someone else said, Kirk getting shot in the throat, in a school, possibly by a republican, while ranting about minorities, gang violence and trans people, is peak irony
“Because Charlie Kirk spent so much of his life advocating for gun violence, Kirk’s murder was both tragic and ironic. He was killed by the very thing he loved. It would be like if Donald Trump were child-raped to death.”
- Steve Hofsetter
Holy Fuck Steve!
Dude is a legend. I would not be surprised if I saw him writing for South Park one day.
I wish ill on people who do evil shit. I also wish they’d see the error of their ways and make amends. They don’t tend to though. Watching Charlie get so neatly picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery as he was about to spew more horseshit was highly satisfying.
I can’t tell you how many times I’ve watched that 4 second clip. I even fucking downloaded it.
It’s getting hard to find, Google has wiped it out. I found some on Facebook. Just pop, gush, and old Charlie has reached his own personal turning point.
That doesn’t surprise me at all, that’s why I downloaded it. I even showed it to a right-winger last night at work. Maybe he makes the connection that these ideas are dangerous, maybe he doesn’t. He just said “oh my God… What the fuck…” Another dude brought it up but never heard of him. He had already seen the video but was asking who he is, and I told him he’s a propagandist for the right wing. He said “ahhh fuck em then.”
Where did you download from?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:FilePath/Shooting_of_Charlie_Kirk.webm
(Close-up, extremely graphic)
Gosh that’s precise. Like barely finishes speaking, and picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery. Whoever did it must be a pro.
Mastadon.
Edit: it was from a link someone posted on the mega thread.
I am enjoying this slo mo video.
sensible giggle, I like you OP
All the pearl clutching from people who openly support a man “Who could shoot someone on 5th ave and not lose a single vote.”
I’d call them hypocrites but they’re too busy praying in public to hear me.
Their messaging is also weirdly contrived. They almost never do the same for deaths of innocent people, they consider them statistics rather than people. But then a bad guy meets a bad fate, and they bring out their alts accounts to tell you “yOu gUyS aRe eViL.”
Irony is lost on some people.
Yeah. Reading conservative subreddits last night was depressing. I was convinced most of the users are bots though. All of them seem to be saying the same shit.
Sadly that is actually the level of critical analysis that CK listeners operate on. The biproduct of being religiously conditioned to trust in authority without question.
Source: Canadian with Maple MAGA family.
Well, I say they seem like bots not because they are mad/sad he died, or about their beliefs. But just the way that thousands of people are all expressing hatred and intent for violence against the left, in very similar ways. They sound like LLM output to me.
Maple MAGA family
What a sad day to be literate.
I hope this was a turning point for this country
SHOTS FIRED. Hahahaha.
It’s absolutely okay to feel relief when you experience the death of an abusive person.
My only empathy is for the students at the school who probably thought they were about to be victims as well, thinking maybe they were about to experience a mass shooting. Kirk spewed vile hatred non stop, said that gun deaths were needed for us to have our 2nd amendment right, so he did die from what he preached.
I feel for the students in Colorado who just hours after did become victim to a school shooting, the Democratic officials in Minnesota who the media have forgotten about after their assassination.
Does that make me a bad person? I don’t really give a shit. There’s one less toxic commentator/grifter out there saying demeaning shit about minorities and my trans homies, one less voice calling for their deaths. If the left had a version of Kirk that was assassinated, they’d be saying the exact fucking thing.
I worry about what the repercussions will be for the country.
I don’t want anyone watching to have trauma symptoms, sadly they’re going to, but even if they support him I don’t want that for them.
But watching him about to open his big mouth and say more pro gun shit and then get picked off like a clay pigeon in a shooting gallery? 10/10.
I dunno, I mean his supporters deserve trauma. Id feel for the Lefty’s that went to just heckle or observe hate. But I’m probably in the top 1% of the darkest (not skin tone) people on the left. Personally I wouldn’t mind being there to witness it, but I’ve seen a lot in Iraq. One shitty guy doesn’t phase me at all, so maybe my opinion on this is a little skewed.
I hate seeing a young vulnerable person who has been manipulated into believing weaponized disinformation like from Charlie, who probably with some more time in higher education and living away from their bumfuck home town would acquire a more discerning political outlook,suffer this trauma.
It could also be the moment of awakening, too.one thing I can guarantee, is that they’ve been thinking about ethics for the last 33 hrs non-stop.
I feel a little bad for his kids, having no dad probably sucks. Well, not nearly as much as having Kirk as a dad, but still. I feel the same way for Barron Trump and Elon’s kids, not much they can do to escape attention and indoctrination. Still doesn’t mean that he was a good man just for having a family, regardless of what CNN and the NYT say.
I dont feel bad for them. We have over sheltered the country. We dont want people see videos of what happens. We dont show them the photos. “Its too graphic”. Good. See it. Look at the reality. Maybe if more peoole did that we would have less wars, less rhetoric. Its all a big game because we dont confront peoole with the dark reality.
YouTube randomly gave me this:
Yes, I would like for him to be next if that’s what they’re saying.
Oh can we have this for christmas? Please please please please please please
Can we get some witches to put a curse on him too?
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charlie kirk sucked ass. but i don’t see his extremely public assassination having many positive consequences
First positive influence: his psychotic ass is gone. Second: Republicans finally have a hint of fear, knowing there are actual consequences.
They bet on there being no credible resistance.
Second: Republicans finally have a hint of fear, knowing there are actual consequences.
you’re assuming they weren’t the ones to do it to create a false-flag event to consolidate magats.
the only fear I have yet to see is from the Democrats. the Republicans are using this as an opportunity to further their agendas.
mark my words. there will be a national political registry before there’s a national gun registry.
Yes, read up on the Reichstag fire.
What I find amazing is that there’s no civil war yet. I guess the left will just quietly go to their death camps?
The trouble is often fear is displayed as anger. And when people are experiencing strong emotions, fear included, they behave less predictably and make more impulsive decisions.
I’m worried about the next left demonstration and hope that everyone stays safe.
Republicans finally have a hint of fear
Yup. Consequences motherfuckers.
My friend had a great quote while we were talking about farmers suffering under Trump’s policies.
“Did these fuckheads think owning the libs was going to be free?”
I love that! Should straight up tell them.
dumpy mcshitpants next pls.
I can think of one.
Whatever happens next was going to happen eventually anyway. Don’t let anyone shift the blame.
The tree of liberty finally got some much needed moisture.
The memes are funny though
Look harder.
Right wingers: how can you celebrate a murder?
Your boos mean nothing to me, I’ve seen what makes you cheer.
It doesn’t change them, but it is kinda fun to put together compilations of right wingers celebrating when decent people are murdered.
You can see it written on their RV’s.
He was a monster. Without the Fourth Reich to prop him up, he would be just one random evil douchebag.
The world is a marginally better place with him gone. Well until they use it as pretext for carpet bombing blue cities.
They were always going to. Fuck em.
They would either have their moment or manufacture it. I’m sadly aware of that.
they should bomb blue MAGA cities if they exist
Yes, we should hope that the nazis bomb those people you don’t like. Sounds quite reasonable. Like someone whose name eludes me might suggest.
Should I name a few? How about Clinton, Obama, Biden or every other president from that cancer country?
They ARE nazis that bomb brown people constantly all over the world.
US imperialism, warmongering and genocide collaboration is bipartisan.
But that doesn’t bother them OC, only now when it’s internal.
Fuck your ‘Blue states’
You all deserve what you created.
It’s so fucking hard for me to even begin to disagree with you. I want to feel empathy for this human being but for fuck’s sake… you can feel the irony and hypocrisy…
he thought empathy was fake, don’t give him any lmaooo
but I believe in empathy. since when do i let people like charlie kirk tell me what to feel and think? fuckin never is when.
200 people die in the USA to gun violence each day and no one cares enough to learn their names.
This guy helped perpetuate that.
So, you know, feels wrong to give him more than the other 200.
Years of bad faith argument by professional high school bullies does that. Years of spreading hate and intolerance to their “others”, but shock and horror whenever someone didn’t tolerate them. Years of snide comments or glee whenever there was an attack on someone they didn’t like.
I really didn’t care when Paul Pelosi was attacked because people like him don’t care or even notice when someone me gets attacked. Why should I care at that Kirk was attacked?
People are saying that this attack with spark more violence, but it didn’t really matter that Franz Ferdinand was shot. WWI was going to happen some way or another. Whatever happens next was going to happen one way or another.
I agree on a lot of particulars there, but I feel compelled to quibble on behalf of historical contingency. We are separated from the past by an infinity of momentary possibilities, and just as people in the past did not know what was going to happen, we can never know what possibilities did not come to fruition. It seems impossible that there was ever such a thing as a foregone conclusion in light of the sheer amount of things that are left to chance every single day. Any historian worth the time of day will tell you that their subject is a litany of unintended consequences, and I am happier knowing that no fate is preordained, especially not war.
I see what you’re saying about possibilities, but there are definitely patterns to history. Historians will be the first to say that “history rhymes.” The pattern of events that we’ve been seeing unfold over the past few years has occurred countless times before, and surprise surprise, it’s never ended peacefully.
As much as I wish that we, as a society, could have learned enough from the past not to keep falling into the same routines, I see no evidence that we’ve matured that far as a species yet. If the building of tensions has led to violent breaks over and over again throughout history, what makes “now” so special as to be immune from the same fate?
Feel empathy for the fact that people like Charlie, other white supremacists, have something so fundamental missing in their souls they treat other people so poorly. Feel empathy for the fact he was a piss poor human and didn’t understand love, respect, community, humanity, etc.
I like treating it like a game. Think of rabid far right radicals as people under the influence of a cognitohazard. You can’t really help them, and if you listen to them for too long, you’ll pick up the cognitive hazard as well. Like a cold. Only thing to do is quarantine and isolate the infected until they can be humanely put to rest. It’s IRL SCPs
Its not about empathy. Its one thing to be indifferent. I am indifferent. I didnt like him, I thought his way of debating was disingenuous. Not giving a shit that he died, is where everyone should be who didnt like him. This glee, this joy, this is not normal. This is sign that a lot of people have been radicalised by their echo chambers.
And worse, now they are calling for others to be murdered. People like JK Rowling. Theres fucking crimes being committed everywhere, all under the guise of “they are nazis!”. The exact same shit Putin said to justify his attack on Ukraine. Theres just something so wrong in peoples heads now. Social media has fucked a lot of people brains.
My only disappointment is a shot to the carotid artery means he likely had no time to process the karmic irony of his death.
Based on his body posture right after it looks like he got reset to factory default settings. I think his brain stem got damanged. It was probably lights out immediately
I feel like whoever the shooter was they were imported from another country where they are trained for shooting like this, real marksmanship, and went back right after they are done, somewhere without an extradition treaty maybe.
200m is not a difficult shot, unless it was ridiculously windy.
On a target that can’t move when you’re relaxed at a range and not wondering if you’re doing the right thing, but otherwise sure.
He wasn’t moving either. I do respect the spot though. That was a narrow field of view with that tent above him. Trust me, I’ve been in a position with guns trained on people wondering whether I was doing the right thing (hint: I wasn’t, but I’ve grown a hell of a lot since then). But still, that’s not a tough shot even with iron sights, especially with a bolt-action. If there was a well zeroed scope, it’d be hard to miss.
He moved immediately before the shot happened. He was leaning back in his chair and then jumped forwards rapidly to pick up a microphone to respond to a question. He was shot less than a second after doing this.
So what’s your point? Realistically that doesn’t change the marksmanship aim. I’m really trying to figure out your point. He really barely moved. Like the distance between the carotid artery and the throat. That’s an inch and a half at best.
He moved over a foot. Your point was that he didnt move, that it wasnt a tough shot. Now its that he did move but as long as it was about an inch then it was still an easy shot.
He moved more than a foot. Did you watch the video?
People need to stop celebrating the shooter! I’m absolutely disgusted and ashamed by their actions. Charlie Kirk was doing nothing but sitting there giving a speech. This was in the middle of the day, there were clear skys and the sun was shining directly on Charlie, as if he was chosen to deliver an important message. Than the shooter shot him. I’ll say it as it is, nothing was between Charlie and the shooter that warranted this.
So how could the shooter miss the shot at Charlie Kirk’s large ass head and hit him in neck instead! Embarrassing, do better on the next fascist.
I think someone down voted you because they didn’t read the second paragraph. Got you back to positive. 👍🏼
He was doing a scientific experiment to see if his head was swollen with blood or gas
I hear reports that estimate the shot at 200 yards. Most rifle scopes come zeroed out at 100 yards out of the box. Maybe the scoped the head but the bullet landed low because the scope was set too close. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Skulls are thick. A bullet hitting at an angle could potentially ricochet off.
Ain’t nothing ricocheting off a neck.
Shooter knew exactly what he was doing.
