US Senator Lindsay Graham has just tweeted an article titled “Greta Thunberg sets sail with Gaza flotilla that aims to break Israeli naval blockade,” adding the comment, “Hope Greta and her friends can swim!”

Australian Zionist think tanker Arsen Ostrovsky somehow outdid Graham, tweeting “Oh look, the little jihadi Greta Thunberg is trying to get into Gaza, to show solidarity with Hamas. It would be so sad if something were to happen to her flotilla…”

There’s not a lot that can shock me about Israel and its supporters these days. But if you’d traveled back in time a few years ago it would be hard to explain to someone how we got to a timeline that includes Israel supporters openly advocating the assassination of Greta Thunberg.

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      I mean, Canaanite babies, livestock, and children (except those sexy virgin girls). Also the Midianites. There’s plenty of precedent for God-commanded genocide in there. And even the most prominent apologists tend to respond with “yeah but it’s ok because God said.”

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      I hope they realize that she’d instantly become a martyr and her death would only galvanize the resistance against them.

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        Will it though? They’ve been killing civilians for decades and ramped up recently to include medics, journalists and even diplomats…
        Mango Mussolini’s in the White House so their asses are covered and supplied, as always, now more than ever.
        The media and many governments have been turning to the right.

        She’ll be news for a couple of days and then it’s business as usual. Some instances will issue even more stern “don’t be naughty” BS and… nothing will happen.

        I really hope i’m wrong though.

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    That’s how you now you’re on the right side of history, when you want to kill somebody trying to bring food to starving humans.

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      I don’t think they give a fuck about being on the right side of history. They just care about being on The Right.

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        True Zionists legitimately believe they are fighting a righteous holy war with the lord on their side. They believe they will be vindicated by God. To them, people like Greta are agents of evil.

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          They’re also brainwashed to believe that Palestinians are all subhuman terrorists who want all Israelis dead.

          Not that much different to post-9/11 anti-Muslim campaigns leading into Iraq and Afghanistan, Red Scare propaganda, Nazi antisemitic propaganda, etc.

          Israel’s government is basically being run by Dick Cheney’s clone. If Netanyahu actually cared about Israelis, then this genocide would have never happened.

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          The fucking ten commandments sau Thou shall not kill. Literally written in fucking stone. I wish it was real just so they could all go straight to hell and be fucking tortured for entirety.

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            I mean you say that and then God had them murder the Canaanites

            That the Hebrews and Canaanites were actually the same people and none of it actually happened is an interesting wrinkle though

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              But then there’s all the apocalypse bullshit and the modern interpretation that thermonuclear war in Jerusalem (or thereabouts) is going to get these fuckwads raptured.

              Meanwhile young men in the US are increasingly joining fundamentalist churches (like Catholics that wear veils), and claiming it’s because it gives them something “real and true” unlike social media I guess?

              I’ll probably be dead before it collapses and surely before it recovers. But it all feels so avoidably dumb.

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            They have different interpretations though, which is where their problem is

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            Different sects of the same religion hate each other (catholics and protestants, shia and sunni muslims, hasidic jews and every other jew, etc). It’s not that much of a stretch that different religions under the same umbrella also hate each other.

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      When I give food to the poor, they call me a saint. When I ask why they are poor, they call me a communist.

      Hélder Câmara, who was in the resistance and liberation of Brazil from the military dictatorship

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      those Christians should celebrate that the Romans tortured and murdered jesus for giving away bread and fish.

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    It’d be damn shame if something horrible kept happening to the walking afterbirths that keep calling for Greta’s murder. A real crying fucking shame.

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    If I posted the same words about Lindsey Graham as he posted about Thuneberg, there would be an investigation, if not an outright arrest.

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      There must be in-groups whom the law protectes but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

      If anyone here made the same “joke” about him, the secret service would knock on our doors.

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      Lady g’s closeted nature, only kept afloat by the gop because he’s a useful senator from a state that needs a Senate majority

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    This should make it abundantly clear that Zionism is a pure moral evil, there is no “both sides” or any argument whatsoever that justifies the Zionist Occupation. The Zionist Occupation Zone (ZOZ) must end as must the genocide against the native peoples of Palestine.

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      The Israeli Supreme Court insists they have a divine right to commit genocide. This is a valid reason to turn the fucking country to glass. Same for every other town associated with any Abrahamic religions. Nuke Mecca.the same day along with Bethleham.

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            Your mistake is presuming that people elsewhere in the world are any different. We all have the capacity for both great good and great evil. Hell, in the US right now we are ramping up the oppression of immigrants and minorities in prelude to what could easily turn into a genocide if we do not change course.

            It’s also important to recognize that the Abrahamic religions are just what are currently used as post hoc justifications for settler-colonialism and imperialism. In the past other philosophies - religious or otherwise - were used and in the future there will be new ways of justifying atrocities. The underlying driver of war and conquest is greed, and that cannot be erased. Eradicating the Abrahamic religions like you suggest will not stop the killing, but would instead likely form the basis of a new justifying dogma.

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              When knowledge had to spend months crossing an ocean and be dispensed vy one ambassador, maybe.

              Not now.

              Religion is the problem

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                I don’t understand how the speed of communication is relevant here, would you mind elaborating?

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                  In modern day there is no excuse for religion to be a part of any conflict or political discussion whatsoever. Instead every abrahamic religion has doubled down on the violence and oppression.

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          Not even the good “zero state solution”. Guess I’ll have to rename it to “the absolutely no states solution”

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          Of course it did. Ask about shabbos goy, usurious interest rates toward goy, Israeli genocide of their neighbors in the Levant, and you get a glib “Jewish law doesn’t apply to gentiles.” If they’re that honest.

          Yes, Zionazi sums it well, especially considering Herzl’s personal views.

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        There’s a decent amount of active antisemitism, look at the crazy Republican cult shit. Anytime someone uses “others” as a scapegoat, from lizard people to globalists, it’s just a dog whistle for Jew.

        I will stand for Jews who are being targeted for their ethnicity and relgion. Who they are does not define them, their actions do. If they are anti-zionist I have no problem, same as everyone around me. If they are a Zionist, I have a problem, same as everyone.

        Abolishing the term antisemitic isn’t going to solve the issue of Gaza, they’ll shift to a new word or older phrases. If anything Israel using it makes calling out actual antisemitic asshats an issue.

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        No. Antisemitism is still a very present thing. Criticizing Israel’s government and opposing the zionism movement isn’t the same as hating Jewish people for simply being Jewish.

        Jewish people are still victims of hate regardless of anything. Just because Israel is using it to justify a genocide doesn’t mean we should forget about it.

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        Which is incredibly ironic, as Palestinians are a semitic people. Using antisemitism as a shield to be antisemitic is peak irony. Though most who throw the word around have no idea what “semitic” even means.

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        Despite its weaponization by Israel, antisemitism remains a valid category of hate. It’s one of the greatest disservices of Israel to the Jewish diaspora world wide to appropriate it like this.

        In fact the fight against antisemitism in the world is directly linked with Palestine liberation: If Jews are able to live safe, free and fulfilled lives outside of Israel, the entire Zionist argument for Israel as the safe haven falls apart. I want my Jewish neighbours to live free and happy here with me, not to migrate to Israel! So any antisemitic attack on them here is a complete outrage, as it reinforces the narrative that they need Israel for safety.

        Each Jew that lives in the diaspora is one less Israeli colonist. Protect them!

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          on top of that, Israel wants antisemitism.

          they want Jews afraid, so they go to Israel to populate the illegal settlements.

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          Exactly. There’s been far too much hate against Jewish people throughout history, almost always as scapegoats to cover for the consequences of someone else’s greed (kings, dictators, and other authoritarians love to do this). Always stand up for your he-bros and he-broettes when antisemites harass and/or attack them.

          There’s no excuse for an ethnostate in the 21st century. Nor is there excuse for letting our fellow human beings be attacked for their religious, sexual, or gender identity.

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          Just to add to that. A decade ago there was a campaing Olim L’Berlin, which was a Facebook group promoting Israelis to move to Berlin. It ended up with basically every Israeli politican shitting on it.

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        better yet, expand it to mean Semitic people.

        because Palestinians aren’t just Semitic people, they are descendants of the jews who lived there and converted during the islamic expansion. they are the jews who stayed in Palestine and lived in peace (for the most part it was 2000 years of history) with the jews who remain Jewish in the area.

        we are brothers.

        also, Semitic as a race/ethnicity is a literal nazi term used for their scientific racism. if there’s a reason to get rid of it, that’s it.

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          Nah bro, no need to redefine words. Antisemitism is an old old European problem, the hatred directed to Jews by us Europeans. We have a long history of it, all the way back to the origins of Christianity and we shouldn’t be given a pass for it. It’s a useful word, but Israel is pointing it as Palestinians, who are only fighting for national liberation, when it should instead remain squarely pointed at us Westerners. It’s extremely telling how Germany for example is using antisemitism as a cudgel to attack pro-Palestinian migrants, while covering up the surviving and very real homegrown German antisemitism.

          We are all siblings of course, we are all humans.

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            i think the term itself dates to nazis…

            brb, double checking…

            Using semitic to refer to jews was german scientific racism. Which then was used for antisemitism.

            although antisemitism isnt a German invention, the term is.

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              Yes it is of German origin but so far back that it is basically at the root of European Enlightenment and it’s intellectual history brings together Germany and France, etc. So I wouldn’t say it is exclusive to the Nazis. As a word it has deeper roots in the European intellectual tradition.

              The word “Semitic” was coined by German orientalist August Ludwig von Schlözer in 1781 to designate the Semitic group of languages—Aramaic, Arabic, Hebrew and others—allegedly spoken by the descendants of Biblical figure Shem, son of Noah. The origin of “antisemitic” terminologies is found in the responses of orientalist Moritz Steinschneider to the views of orientalist Ernest Renan. Historian Alex Bein writes: “The compound anti-Semitism appears to have been used first by Steinschneider, who challenged Renan on account of his ‘anti-Semitic prejudices’ [i.e., his derogation of the “Semites” as a race].”

              (quoting Wikipedia)

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                if you had reading comprehension, you would understand that it was made to be used for scientific racism. because otherwise ‘jewish’ is just a religion and not an ethnicity.

                but Bigots don’t tend to have reading comprehension

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                reply, sorry. I’m in another thread with someone who’s straight up antisemitic. thought it was his reply, my bad.

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    It is their right to play. They like to play with discourse using ridiculous reasons to discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in bad faith as it is their goal to intimidate and disconcert.

    …Or something along those lines.

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      even if you hate the environment, they are literally delivering food. who could ever be against giving food to the hungry?

      especially if they call themselves “Christian”

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        Plenty zionist christians, they are the worst.
        Like there were, and are, plenty of other fascist christians.
        That touch of religious zeal gives them an extra genocidal motivation.

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            We all know that Jesus turned water to wine to get all the thirsty bitches in the crowd drunk.

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              interesting how a religion, based on someone who miraculously gave wine to people,is a religious they in general hates alcohol, (except for communion).

              is there was a Jesus religion it should ve filled with alcohol, prostitutes, and socialism.

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        given all the rapes in Israeli prisons, and how the rapists are touted as heroes, you don’t need to repeat yourself by calling zionists misogynists

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      While that is true, people who hate her wont understand that sort of complex thinking and emotion.