An ecosocialist world would not allow wealth inequality to become this bad.

We don’t live in one. The challenge is to make one.

It’s a biological fact when resources are constrained that a population will plateu.

Mice and fleas don’t have medicine, feminism, research centres and agriculture. Look at the world around you. In societies with high degrees of scarcity and high infant mortality, humans have tended to have a lot of babies. This is true now, and it was true historically. On the flipside, in societies with high development indexes, humans tend to not have many kids. From Japan to Sweden to Cuba, you see that fertility rates inversely correlate with human development. These are just observable facts.

LMDE because I get the robustness of Debian stable and the quality of life goodies of Mint.

I mean, the “I’m sorry if it makes me an ecofascist, but” line was a dead giveaway from the start.

“Change the meanings of words”? I didn’t do that. I pointed out that there exist multiple meanings to the same word. Work on cultural racism by Balibar et al. is not new either, it’s been around for something like 30-40 years. If your worldview is too narrow, then expand it, go educate yourself. Don’t give me this kind of anti-intellectual bullshit, especially in a progressive space like this one.

The person I was responding to before you was not simply claiming that “two evils exist on different magnitudes”. They were dismissing one of the “two evils” by trivializing the cultural racism of islamophobia as “not liking someone’s dumbass religion”, i.e., something that boils down to some kind of harmless personal choice, like preferring fries to onion rings.

My argument from the start is that if one type of bigotry is grounds for cancelling, so is the other. And this is literally in the thread about a post about a progressive politican who is being subjected to cultural racism. What do you stand for here buddy?

Oh, so you get to decide who gets to have kids and how many? And the “trailer park welfare mom” is your problem? Like, the straw(wo)man you made up with ingredients from classism, sexism and eugenics?

Yea, that makes you a regular fascist. The “eco” is just the excuse.

This is veering into an abstract discussion that is not useful. Islamophobia is a form of cultural racism. So called “scientific” or “biological” racism is not the only kind of racism that exists.

Let’s be specific here. Mamdani has not being attacked for being a believer in this or that religion. Gilibrand’s attacks were not theological. He’s being attacked based on bigoted stereotypes.

That said, even if he was being attacked on religion, what the actual fuck? Would an attack on a candidate because they are Orthodox Christian or Buddist or Mormon or atheist or anything else be acceptable? Are we splitting the hairs of whether this or that type of bigotry are acceptable here? Wtf.

What a bullshit dilemma.

And you are wrong that wealth inequality causes the drop in birth rates. The birth rate was higher in the Dickensian times of Britain compared to now. If anything, it is wealth equality, universal positive rights, and women’s liberation that tend to make people have fewer kids.

A ecosocialist world is a sustainable one. An ecofascist world is just a death spiral.

Islamophobia, just like antisemitism, is not “not liking someone’s dumbasses religion”, it is racism. You wouldn’t tolerate anti-black racism and you wouldn’t tolerate antisemitism (I assume, given that you’re here). You also would not be trivializing any kind of racism by comparing it to rape (again, a good faith assumption). On the same grounds, you shouldn’t tolerate islamophobia.

Edit: That said, Franken was never accused of rape. Here are what he was actually accused of: [1] [2]

You first, buddy.

If not, this is just a slippery slope argument to “those other people shouldn’t exist/have babies”. That’s just the door to eco-fascism.

The US is a rogue state.

I for one think that Islamophobia is as serious an offense as sexual misconduct and that Gillibrand should be cancelled and resign, just like Al Franken.

You don’t get to bail out your fascist friends, Donnie.

Hold the line Lula!

Language isn’t a defining characteristic of a national culture? Hahahaha that’s enough Internet for today, that’s easily the most ridiculous thing my Greek ass read today.

The US is a rogue state. We have to de-yankify everything.

ICE is a law enforcement agency. It’s a police. With a special immigration mandate.

I guess I am not clear what is meant by “handle the processing of people as they complete the immigration process”. In Canada, things like applications and forms are handled by IRCC, the immigration ministry. Other than that, there is CBSA, which is like your CBP, but we don’t have a specialized interior immigration police.

Exactly.

There needs to be some kind of immigration enforcement just to handle the processing of people as they complete the immigration process.

No there doesn’t. We don’t have anything similar like a dedicated anti-immigration police in Canada or in the EU. There are border protection agencies and there are immigration bureaucracies, but this special immigration police thing going on in the US, is not a thing.

Because genocide is a process.

We are talking comparable size, population and density to Manhattan. But with zero infrastructure, and with the Israeli army liberally bombing whenever they want.

• Rafah: 64 sq km, Manhattan 59 sq km.
• Populations are estimated at 2.1 million (all of Gaza, to be transferred into Rafah) vs 1.6 million respectively.
• That gives us densities of 32k people/sqkm in Rafah, 27k people/sqkm in Manhattan.

So basically, more people by square kilometer than Manhattan but close to zero infrastructure. Just imagine if all the infrastructure in Manhattan suddenly disappeared, but the people were stuck there and could not go anywhere. While being bombed. And blockaded.

Rafah is 64 square kilometers; that’s the size of San Marino (61 sq km).