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The amount of guys I’ve met in my whole life who outright refused to wear a condom was… One. Singular.
Called him an idiot. Then he ended up catching an STD. His dick burned for two weeks and I couldn’t stop smiling.
Anyway, this seems to be another one of those comics that tries present abnormal behaviour as a common thing.
Yep. Plenty of women out there that insist on having sex without condom as well.
Idk why the comment acts like woman themselves dont choose to do it outside of relationships
Exactly. Had this happen with two women.
Yeah this comic reeks of manufactured gender war content
Depends on where you live/your cultural context. The number of times I’ve heard from women in recent years that men refuse to wear condoms has been truly surprising.
Surprises me cause I bet decent men won’t have problems with a condom while most substandard men would. No one talks about decent men as much as ones that are bad. Also, if you hear many speak about these men, maybe their preference in men is flawed?
Not only that, but the fact is, the vast majority of the time a Bad Thing (e.g. STI transmission or unwanted pregnancy) happens from unprotected sex, it’s because both partners simply didn’t care enough to use anything. Even taking the idiot in your example, he got laid in the end, that’s how he got what he got.
Without these idiots of both sexes, unwanted pregnancy would be extremely rare, and almost no STI would survive longer than a generation.
This. There’s always (at least) two people who are having unprotected sex together.
There’s nothing more sad or depressing than an unwanted child that two people ruined their lives over.
The point is not how common or uncommon this is. The point is the phenomenon itself. Also, your personal experience in how common this is cannot be used as a basis for knowing the general prevalence. The truth is, it does happen. Not all men, but always men.
Not all men, but always men.
- No shit, we’re talking about condoms, goofball.
- How would you feel about someone saying “throwing your newborn into a dumpster, women are horrible…the truth is, it does happen. Not all women, but always women”? Would you instantly magically understand the massive logical flaw once the ‘target’ isn’t a demo you’re already biased against?
My point is that saying “not all men” every time a problem is addressed is undermining the discussion. Until you have experienced the relentless harassment of women by a subset of the male population, funnily enough present in every country on Earth, please don’t lecture me on bias.
saying “not all men” every time a problem is addressed
saying “not all men” every time all men are held accountable for what a tiny minority of men do*
Fixed.
The only thing it “undermines” is the sexist generalization.
Not all men, but always men
“Not all X but it’s always X” is a common neonazi saying. Using it in a different context can even be a dogwhistle in some cases
Thanks for pointing that out. I have zero interaction with neonazis and didn’t know.
It’s also a pretty stupid argument, tbh. Which is why it’s used very often by neonazis.
How so?
What do you want to say with it?
We are talking about men not wearing condoms and you point out that it’s only men who can and don’t wear condoms. Like, yeah, of course, because its only men that can wear condoms.
So that point of the argument becomes a tautology without actual direct meaning. It turns from being an argument into a pure attempt of framing/manipulation, and that’s not good style in a discussion.
Apart from it not making any sense in the context of this discussion, the argument itself is pretty flawed in general usage too. The general chain of discussion is usually like this:
- A: I am making a wild claim that characterizes all members of group X to be Y.
- B: I am refuting this claim by saying that only a very small amount of the members of group X are Y.
- A: It’s not all members of group X that are Y, but it’s always members of group X that are Y.
So it shifts the argument. It goes from “All X are Y” to “Some X are Y”, while not acknowledging that shift. It’s a variant of the Bailey and Motte fallacy.
The “it’s always X that are Y” inversion is usually done in a tautological way.
“Not all muslims are islamist terrorists, but it’s always muslims that are islamist terrorists.” -> Sure, because to be an islamist you need to be a muslim, but there are tons of non-islamist/non-muslim terrorists too.
The point is to throw off the person you are talking to, because that tautological part cannot be disproved, and that might make someone stumble in posing a counter-argument.
Not all men, but always men.
And this is what bullshit looks like.
Ok. Now what does an argument look like?
Do I actually need explain what misandry looks like, or why it’s bad?
Don’t have to wear a condom if you don’t have sex 😎
This guy does not have sex.
ok, and???
Don’t wear a condom.
Don’t need to! Win-win!
Don’t have to wear a condom because boys can’t get pregnant
😎
STDs enter the chat
Prep and doxy kick it out
Take responsibility big man
We’re talking about babies, darling~
you just need to try harder.
Can I use you as my test partner?
only if you promise to call me in the morning
I’m the kind of guy who spends the night 😏
then I guess you can call me whatever you want 🤔
Lemmit love, it’s beautiful 😍
Not according to a number of stories I’ve seen
Oldest form of birth control: being uggo
In German there is that joke that eating apples is the best contraceptive. So, eating apples instead of having sex.
I feel we’re missing a meme image here… 🤣
Broadly speaking I agree since entitled guys certainly exist but also I’ve heard some women describe condom sex as feeling like getting fucked with a sandwich baggie and not their favorite
“feels like I’m being fucked by a rubber duck” are words from my now wife that I won’t ever forget.
Neither sex prefers condoms to no condoms. No pair of sexual partners ever utilize them unless they have a good reason to (and even with a good reason, many people don’t, lol).
Neither sex prefers condoms to no condoms.
I can’t speak for everyone in my gender, but I’ve rarely found an issue with them. Desensitizes the man so he lasts longer, comes pre-lubricated so that’s one less thing to worry about, and neatly addresses the post-sex mess. There’s even a little fun foreplay right before the main event, if you’re feeling kinky.
No pair of sexual partners ever utilize them unless they have a good reason to (and even with a good reason, most people don’t, lol).
Especially early in a relationship, they were always bog standard for me. Rarely met a partner who didn’t feel the same way. Admittedly, the AIDS epidemic was in my rear view mirror growing up, so maybe I’m just more paranoid about unprotected sex than the Zoomers.
I can’t speak for everyone in my gender, but I’ve rarely found an issue with them.
Not what I said, though. Do you prefer sex with a condom to sex without? If not, you align with what I said.
Especially early in a relationship, they were always bog standard for me.
That’s obviously in the “good reason” category. Also agrees with the other part of my sentence, as tons of short-sighted people forgo them altogether, including one-night stands with strangers.
Do you prefer sex with a condom to sex without?
I don’t have a strong opinion either way. I like sex and I like a sense of safety. With new partners, or old partners who fear a risk of pregnancy, condoms guarantee both and that makes me feel good coming and going.
I don’t prefer unprotected sex when it leaves me paranoid the day after. There’s more to the experience than just degrees of friction.
You’re missing my point, which I thought was clear, but add “when the condom is not preventing anything” to the end of the bit you quoted to clarify it.
My point is that, unless you have a good reason to do it (the source of the “sense of safety” and the prevention of the “paranoia”, described above), you’re obviously not going to do it.
If your partner is infertile, and you know that both of you have no STIs, neither of you are going to want to use a condom. Condoms are used because they’re needed, not because they’re wanted.
but add “when the condom is not preventing anything”
“Would you wear a seatbelt if you knew you weren’t going to crash?”
I don’t know that. I don’t know the condom isn’t preventing anything. That’s the whole point. It’s a precautionary measure that let’s me enjoy sex without worrying about the consequences.
If your partner is infertile, and you know that both of you have no STIs, neither of you are going to want to use a condom.
Okay but what happens if you’re having sex under the age of 50?
“Would you wear a seatbelt if you knew you weren’t going to crash?”
I don’t know that. I don’t know the condom isn’t preventing anything.
Dude…It’s a hypothetical…the “whole point” is that people only use condoms (and seat belts) because they do something that the user needs done. That’s why people wear seat belts in their car, but not on their couch at home.
No one actually enjoys using condoms, and as soon as their functionality (contraception and/or STI prevention) isn’t needed, they’re ditched immediately. Just like how people don’t put on a seat belt when they’re getting into their car to sit stationary in their driveway and listen to music or something.
My birth control is my face. Been working great.
What a weird way to tell us you are really into facials…
Condoms do 100% suck. Especially if they hacked off a piece of your dick that significantly reduces its sensitivity and function when you were a baby.
I literally do not enjoy condom sex at all. That’s why I got a vasectomy. And also I don’t want kids ever anyway and I wish I had gotten a vasectomy the instant I hit 18, what a waste.
Sorry — but if you don’t enjoy condom-sex, I think a fair consequence is that you are excluded from sex.
So by that vain, it’s fair to say any woman who can’t take the pill should also be excluded from sex or what ?
Nope. Just men who won’t do their fair share.
Yeah, thanks for letting me know you’re not worth talking too. You’re the one who should be excluded from sex.
Touchy.
Literally said he got a vasectomy at 18, your point is stupid.
No, they said (emphasis mine):
I wish I had gotten a vasectomy the instant I hit 18
The sentence before that: “That’s why I got a vasectomy”
He got a vasectomy.
He did not get a vasectomy when he was 18.
The other guy wrote: “Literally said he got a vasectomy at 18, your point is stupid”, conflating the two statements from OP.
Yeah, true. My bad. Shouldn’t write comments when not paying attention lol
Condoms help also against diseases. No way I put my dick somewhere unprotected…
Don’t have sex with randoms?
Yeah, no.
Condoms are great then but still not 100% effective
Oh fuck off. It’s up to the couple, not you.
Brave that you’d reveal your mental illness so openly.
I’m sure you’re just trying to be insulting… but which of the mental illnesses do you think I’m projecting?
And thank you for revealing your own intolerance of the mentally ill. Nice.
Conservatism. You’ll deny it, but that’s what you have. Sex negativity is fundamentally conservative and authoritarian.
And thank you for revealing your own intolerance of the mentally ill. Nice.
My sister has bipolar, is an annoying tankie, and is generally narcissistic and unhinged. I had to live with her for the past few months because she needed a place to stay because she broke up her boyfriend. It was fucking miserable and I kind of think shes a bad person like yourself. But I’d still rather live with her than even momentarily interact in person with someone who thinks people should just be excluded from sex because they can’t enjoy it with condoms. You’re piece of shit, I hope you have not reproduced.
You wish you lived my life. I wouldn’t trade with you.
Also… zero compassion for your sister is really attractive. I’m sure those romantic partners are just lining up.
You wish you lived my life. I wouldn’t trade with you.
No actually I wish I had not been born because I think temporary existence is a curse worse than never having lived. But now that I’m here and mortal I might as well live it up while I can before I have to face the terrifying eternal void that is the grave.
Kind of weird to bring up how great your life is. I said you were a bad person, not that you were living a bad life. Perhaps you agree that you’re just a bad person? No refutation there? That’s ok TBH I actually don’t even know if I care that much about your individual virtue anyway. I just hate your ideology and felt disgusted that you have it.
Also… zero compassion for your sister is really attractive.
I do have compassion for her. I just think shes annoying and a bad person and I’m happy to not live with her anymore.
I’m sure those romantic partners are just lining up.
Why does this even concern you? Do you think I act this miserable in person? This is my post Trump re-election misanthrope account. I just vent all my disgust on here.
Getting pussy and bussy is easy. Getting one with meaningful connection is difficult.
After ICE blinded another protester, I spent this morning researching protective eye gear that’s light weight, effective, and comfortable to wear all day.
It sounds now like we have more in common than we don’t. I shouldn’t act like a dick at Lemmy.
We are not one another’s enemy. We know who is our enemy. We must not forget this.
I prefer to be on the pill, honestly. I get that it isn’t the sane experience fir everyone, but there are multiple other options other than the two mentioned. Even when it comes to pills, there is also the mini pill which has no estrogen and therefore can help with some of the negative symptoms. I started taking that one because I had a few negative reactions to regular birth control pills.
With the mini pill you have to be pretty precise with the time of day where you take it but once you have that down, it’s just so pleasant. In my case, it entirely stops menstruation and stabilizes me. I get to live a very normal life without all this cycle shit disrupting me.
I get that not all women feel about their periods like I do, but for me, it has always felt like an assault on my body that I have to be in pain, have crazy mood swings and feeling gross every single month. I don’t have any of it anymore thanks to the mini pill.
Again, there are many more options to go for when it comes to birth control, other than pills and condoms and in general I don’t want us to demonize it. Especially not in these times where there is a genuine push in American politics to spread anti-birthcontrol propaganda online.
Guys saying condoms are uncomfortable don’t know how to properly put them on, and/or use the incorrect size for their dick.
I’ve tried several brands and sizes and the right condom makes a big difference.
This was me for a good three years. Standard condoms were always uncomfortable, to the point of pain, but not once did I consider going larger, thanks to my first girlfriend (our breakup was… less than ideal thanks to her cheating, and she then went on to tell me, and most of our friends, that my size was entirely inadequate, borderline micropenis, which I took to heart for quite a while).
It took the aforementioned three years and quite a few one-night stands telling me I’m big to even start thinking “hey maybe I need larger condoms”.
Guys, don’t be like me, if it’s uncomfortable, go check out the many brands that do specifically sized nominal widths for condoms. Each will have a guide on successfully measuring yourself, or offer a sample kit which you can try for the right fit. Don’t ruin your sex life with shitty condom choices.
I always bought regular size but then I sent my gf to buy and she took the larger ones. Not that we have sex like ever but when we do, there is a big difference now. Doesn’t hurt and I don’t get off in 2 seconds 😂
what about guys with weird shaped penis’s?
are there churo or star shaped condoms?
I liked playdoh as a kid and got curious about the extrusion set one day…
edit: wow, touchy subject! who knew men were so insecure about their penises and feel personally attacked when a dick joke is made!
churo
So ribbed (lengthwise) for her pleasure?
harness me to a ceiling fan and I double as a reamer.
Put a regular condom on one and find out. Condoms stretch and conform, so all your question shows is that you’ve never used one. Its amazing how eager circumcised virgins are to out themselves over this stuff.
😮 how did they get such an accurate model of my penis!
It’s not always simple, if Durex XXL and Magnum XL sit tight, check out the Condomeria in Amsterdam, they have a “numbers” line, like 64 for example and they ship worldwide!
Life saver.
False. The US regulations (which only recently were loosened in the last couple of years) made sizing half irrelevant. Even if the main portion was sized correctly, due to the regulatory agency not wanting to buy different sized testing machines/attachments, the ring at the base was the same size for every condom.
This cuts off circulation to like half of men. Like, to numbing levels.
You could try to import condoms from countries with health and safety regulations that make sense then.
What makes you think that they’d allow the sale of foreign products that don’t meet the standards that domestic ones have to?
You are right, “import” is the wrong word. I should have said “smuggle” instead.
That could be the reason why this is a complaint that I read about online but have never heard in real life. Once again: Americans having sub-par products.
If your oral contraceptives cause you any significant side effects, it makes sense to consult a gynecologist to change the prescription. There are many options out there, and correctly chosen ones should not typically cause them.
In terms of pregnancies, oral contraceptives can be both more or less efficient that condoms depending on the mode of usage for each (and also discipline, don’t skip either). Besides, for many couples accidental pregnancy is a bit of a change of plans, but not something that will warrant abortion or make children unwanted. Again, case-dependent.
It’s okay to choose condoms as well, as long as partners are happy about it. If that gives you a peace of mind, you can even combine both measures at the same time! It’s only important to remember that there are two (or more) partners involved, and all being happy about the choices made is crucial for great intimacy. Do not ever force someone to take pills if they don’t want to, and discuss your options if someone has issues with condoms. Maybe the issues are with latex condoms specifically, with polyurethane options providing less allergenicity and better sensitivity. Maybe a diaphragm can be your option. Or maybe something else. You can always discuss, you’re not on a gender war or something, you’re partners.
Personally, I can’t wait for male contraceptive pills to hit the market. Not only it will provide a solution to this specific problem, shifting responsibility for proper selection of contraception and any issues coming with it onto the people who need it the most, it will also provide men with more agency about their reproduction. Finally, you can combine male and female contraceptives to get unparalleled non-barrier protection with good insurance in case one partner misses the pill. Win all-round.
On another personal note, sexual discomfort is obviously an important factor to account for when talking about intimacy and love, so it shouldn’t be seen as stupid and unimportant, as portrayed here.
That should not overpower any health concerns, not least because they are too sources of discomfort, but it should be taken into account.
Talk it through with your partner - you’re in it together, and there’s almost certainly an option for both of you. Feel free to explore something other than pills and condoms as well if you need it - the world of contraception methods is huge.
If oral contraceptives have too many side effects, just don’t have oral sex. Easy.
This is why your headache didn’t go away. It is actually pronounced ‘analgesic’, not ‘ANALgesic’. The pills go into your mouth.
I have used up all my friday and saturday pills, what to do, only have sex on mondays now?
If you have 3 day weeks, then yes, that’s the only solution.
4Head
Lol
Yeah but then the person can’t make a comic to shit on men.
I’m so very tired of these pointless gender wars, honestly.
There are better and more productive ways to voice general concerns - there truly exists a pressure on some women to use hormonal contraception, and this is bad - it’s not okay to pressure your partner in matters of health and intimacy. But what helps is getting to the root of the problem.
The root is sexual discomfort on one side and anxiety on the other standing in the way of intimacy. So, maybe there are other unexplored options to resolve this conflict in a way that is comfortable to all sides? The world of contraception is very rich, and tries to cater to everyone’s use cases.
IUD’s can be great too. My wife has used them for years. Reduced period frequency and severity, higher effective rate of contraception, no need to worry about taking a pill late or missing one. Her gynecologist said it will probably reduce pre-menopausal symptoms too when she gets older. And it’s pretty easily removable.
There was a couple of weeks when she was sore from the initial placement, and the same whenever it gets changed. They keep on getting approved to last longer and longer- the most recent one was good for 8 years, but there’s a good chance it will get extended before it needs to be replaced as more research is done.
Not for everyone, but great for a lot of people.
I saw one in an efficacy chart for different contraceptives that IUDs were slightly better than tubal ligation (literal sterilization)! Given the side effects etc. of the latter, it seems like ‘getting your tubes tied’ has become completely obsoleted by modern IUDs.
To be fair, this is likely about hormonal options, which is the primary reason people might be concerned about oral contraception mentioned in the post.
Regular copper IUDs have their track record a bit worse, but still going very strong.
Also, using IUDs ideally requires checking if the device is still set right after each period - not doing so may increase one’s chances of getting pregnant.
Absolutely! Know a few folks who use IUD’s, and heard mostly positive feedback.
You don’t want a kid? Man up and get a vasectomy.
Took ~2 days of discomfort afterward and now I’m shooting vegan cream pies all day long.
You don’t want a kid? Man up and get a vasectomy.
What if you don’t want a kid now, but will want one later?
Permanent sterilization isn’t always the answer.
You can have it reversed within ~6 years and regain a high percentage of fertility. You also have the option of storing semen for later in a sperm bank.
You have options. Sperm quality also degrades over the lifetime of the man, so saving some from your earlier years may have less chance of genetic defects.
You can have it reversed within ~6 years and regain a high percentage of fertility.
No responsible doctor will recommend you get a vasectomy under the assumption that you’ll be able to reverse it if you change your mind.
It is not meant to be reversed. You should only do it with the expectation that it’s permanent; it’s supposed to be permanent.
I think we’re going to have to agree to disagree here. You obviously have very strong opinions about this.
Yes, a vasectomy is meant to be permanent, yet you -can- reverse it. I wouldn’t personally consider it a temporary solution, but some people might.
You obviously have very strong opinions about this.
It’s not an opinion, that is the only responsible and ethical way to go about it.
Medical standards, such as those from the American Urological Association (AUA), explicitly state that a vasectomy should be counseled as a permanent procedure. Using its potential reversibility as an incentive to persuade a hesitant patient is generally considered a breach of the standard of care.
Also something that’s rarely considered: while vasectomies are often covered by insurance, vasectomy reversal very rarely is, and can cost over $10,000 out of pocket, in the US at least.
‘I can always reverse it’ should not ever be a factor in one’s decision to get a vasectomy, nor would any ethical doctor say anything along those lines.
I’m not saying anyone should get a vasectomy assuming it will be reversed, nor that doctors should counsel it that way. It should absolutely be approached as permanent.
My point was narrow in that for people who are done having kids or strongly don’t want them, vasectomy is a responsible alternative to refusing condoms. There are -also- options like sperm banking or sometimes reversal, if you want to take that gamble. Acknowledging those options isn’t the same as recommending reliance on them.
We agree on the issue though: it shouldn’t be treated casually or as temporary. Beyond that, I don’t think there’s much left to argue.
Your balls still produce sperm. Easy extraction if needed.
For the curious: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Testicular_sperm_extraction
Not an expert in this, but I believe that it must be used in conjunction with IVF.
Vascectomy for the win.
Snipsnip gang represent
I‘m 44 now and know three guys who have resented this decision.
Am I the only person who is more deathly afraid of a life long STD that could fucking kill me than an unplanned pregnancy?
I dont care which one of us got the snip, unless I’m sure I’m the only dude you’re banging I’m bagging the fuck up until I see some test results which I’ll be happy to get and provide in kind.
I’d assume because many people in these discussions are married… in which case yeah getting an STD would be the booger on top of the shit sundae. But yeah the test results only have to be checked overall at the start of the long term relationship… at least assuming you can trust your partner… while pregnancy is something you’ve got to be alert to in the entirety of a relationship.
If your married and kids are a forever no then dude should get the snip. Simple. I’m getting one soonish and if I ever find myself single again I’ll still be wearing rubbers unless Ive had the chat.
Get the 3 HPV vaccines, the 3 Hep A/B vaccines, and start truvada (or the dirt cheap generic brands).
And learn about the signs of syphilis, chlamydia, and gonorrhea. And just get anti-biotics if you catch them.
And learn to watch out for Herpes sores in a partner. (Not deadly but obviously you don’t want Herpes)
EDIT: Oh and get regular testing obviously. Asking your partners to do the same on the regular is a lot easier if you’re doing so.
There, you’ve mitigated like 99% of the threat. You could be an absolute horndog or slut rawdogging all the time and you’re more likely to die in a car accident than because of an STI in the US at least.
Not sure that this is actually easier than condoms.
Its more fun.
I really can’t think of an STI that would kill you these days. Am I missing one?
Yay condoms!
In a first world country with access to excellent medical care, no underlying conditions in an otherwise healthy person you’re probably going to be fine.
Thats not to say it might not be a significant contributor to what does get you.
What might be a significant contributor to what gets you? Like what STI(s) are you thinking about?
I mean anything from HPV to HIV can still kill you directly even with access to the best health care on the planet.
Honestly why I downvoted OP. They shouldn’t be at the point of having this pissing-match without having used condoms together already, and cumming-inside the vagina isn’t exactly required for intimacy even then.
OPs characters lack imagination, and are catering to an audience that shouldn’t be encouraged into maintaining such a narrow way of thought.
a life long STD that could fucking kill me than an unplanned pregnancy?
To be fair, a pregnancy can kill you, too.
Yeah, bi man here, I can’t get pregnant, but STDs still would affect me if I had sex with men.
As opposed to the very safe and not fatal action of pregnancy and giving birth?
I read it more as they’re open to having kids but not open to having an STD, which honestly is a pretty sane headspace to be in
Yeah, but (if I’m reading correctly) upstream commenter has a pp and doesn’t have to worry about the physical dangers of pregnancy/birth.
I get the point you’re making, but it’s also very reductive
Elaborate.
Mass-market condoms often don’t fit properly, even for men who aren’t excessively well endowed. Yeah, you can stretch them over your head and fill them up like a balloon, but that’s not at all comfortable. Also, they do break, so it’s not like there’s no risk of pregnancy.
Yeah, you have to go for the boutique condoms. Head down to your local condomer. Get measured and fitted for a personal touch
There’s actually a couple that I tried that did work significantly better than off-the-shelf, but they still kinda sucked. As I recall, they were really expensive, too.
This is my penance for being born with a weird dick, I guess.
weird dick
Does that explain “Sexcrowbar”?
So you just reiterated the comic. No amount of discomfort compares to what women go through.
Some women also hate the feeling/lack of direct contact from condoms, it isn’t just a man thing. They are necessary in many sexual relationships, but this comic is the absolute most basic take on birth control options which is broadly accurate but has zero nuance.
Most women I had sex with were on birth control for reasons other than avoiding pregnancy. I still used condoms except in committed and monogamous relationships, but everyone involved preferred going without if other considerations were taken.
Well that does it, folks. This guy just ended all the arguments because his experience was X and all the women who have openly complained about the drawbacks of birth control were just wrong! I mean, there’s no reason that the artist of this comic should have made this comic. It’s such a niche idea!! Crazy!
You should work on your reading comprehension.
…broadly accurate but has zero nuance.
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The point is that if the act itself isn’t enjoyable for the man to the point they prefer to masturbate, finding a solution for that too sounds like an interesting endeavour. Notice how I said “too”, not “instead”.
Vasectomy is an option, ofc, and there was some research being done about the male pill like 10 years ago, idk how it’s going. I’m not saying that since the man doesn’t like condoms the woman has to shoulder it, I’m saying that condom discomfort is a valid issue that warrants searching for alternative solutions.
That’s why I agree with the other person that said that the comic is reductive.
The condom pretty much takes the sensations of pleasure out of sex.
It really doesn’t but keep telling yourself that. Maybe one day it will magically be true.
Does for me, every brand we’ve tried. But birth control fucks her up, so I just deal with it. Without definitely feels better, I don’t think anyone can argue with that.
I don’t think anyone can argue with that.
People who have never had sex like the person you’re replying to would probably still try though.
Without does feel better, but a condom doesn’t “take the sensations of pleasure out of sex” as the person I replied to said.
Don’t forget the “pretty much”. You’re not arguing in good faith.
If the ring at the bottom which is regulated to one specific size in your country, cutting off the circulation to half the men living there, then yeah, it literally does.
Well it does for me.
If it makes your dick go dumb because the country you live in has stupid sizing regulations, then yeah it does.
You guys really are leaning into the comic…
Ah of course, pleasure is irrelevant. All safety, no pleasure.
Edit: are you like 12 years old?
So your pleasure is more important than anything else? Dude, just stop replying.
Learn to accept that people can have different views to yours and that doesn’t make them wrong.
Lol OK, buddy.
Why can none of you read properly?
Why do some women choose birth control despite the potential side effects if not needed for medical purposes, sir White Knight?
Some do. But this comic is comparing multiple bad side effects to lack of pleasure.
Ya didn’t answer the question matey
Because some women aren’t all women? Let’s not even get into the argument of the expectation of sex and fear of rejection that women feel in speaking their minds. Pretending to feel a certain way to keep their partner because that’s how it’s been for forever can lead to women saying they like something they do not. It’s not that hard, but then again there is a male loneliness epidemic for a reason.
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Man bad.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HILARIOUS, I’VE NEVER HEARD THIS CONCEPT BEFORE
I had trouble till (hormonal) IUD, would never discount the side effects of most birth control available to women - copper IUD nearly killed me with hemorrhage, and pills raised my blood pressure, anything that went inside me (diaphragm, etc) either gave me yeast infection or bladder infection, so many of the methods seem designed to punish women for wanting sex without pregnancy.
But I’d think guys would love condoms because it’s the only reversible birth control they can control themselves.
Condoms can reduce sensitivity, but I don’t understand the hate. Is sex for some people some kind of race to see who can cum first? Try taking your time and enjoy it.
If you can’t cum with a condom on, maybe the problem isn’t the condom? Get your blood pressure checked. One of the first things I noticed when I started having issue with high blood pressure, was that the extra BP created a bit of extra “hardness”, but also reduced my sensitivity.But I’d think guys would love condoms because it’s the only reversible birth control they can control themselves.
Yeah, what’s with that? Why are there dozens of different birth control options for women, and men have exactly condoms, permanent sterilization and nothing else?
You’d think there would be some kind of decent male birth control by now. It’s been 65 years since the first hormonal birth control for women was released. It’s been more than enough time to get something decent done for men too.
Why are there dozens of different birth control options for women, and men have exactly condoms, permanent sterilization and nothing else?
Because only the female body has a built-in ‘fertility off’ mode (pregnancy) that pharmacopoeia can manipulate. The most effective contraceptive methods we have all depend on tricking the female body into thinking it’s pregnant when it isn’t. The reason women have so many options is simply because there are a lot of different ways to accomplish that ‘trickery’, pharmaceutically. Women also only have one real barrier method, the diaphragm. It’s even shittier than condoms, re efficacy.
Those are just the biological facts of the matter. It’s not some sinister scheme to pass the buck from men to women. The above is exacerbated by the simple fact that it’s about stopping one egg a month versus stopping millions of constantly-created sperm.
There’s been various methods for blocking sperm from travelling down the vas deferens that managed to get through studies and then just got dropped.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vas-occlusive_contraception
Edit: This is what Wikipedia has to say on that topic:
Despite this, pharmaceutical companies are reluctant to lose market share of a thriving global market for female contraceptives and condoms which bring billions of dollars of revenue each year. Initially, RISUG attracted some interest from pharmaceutical companies. However, considering that RISUG is an inexpensive, one-time procedure, manufacturers retracted.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm_under_guidance
That kind of procedure would wipe out most of the contraceptive industry. And of course that can’t be allowed.
It’s one of those things that’s beneficial but not profitable (like the postal service), and therefore a ‘service’ that the government should be providing with tax revenue, imo.
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so many of the methods seem designed to punish women for wanting sex without pregnancy.
Yes, that’s right, the people inventing these contraceptives were all huddled in a room twirling their misogyny mustaches, discussing “okay, we’re going to make this thing that prevents pregnancy, but we have to MAKE SURE it has unpleasant side effects, these women must be punished!”
Please.
But I’d think guys would love condoms because it’s the only reversible birth control they can control themselves.
Guys do like that, but not as much as they dislike the fact that it makes sex a lot less pleasurable, which is the primary reason they want to have sex in the first place. That’s why a lot of guys, like me, would rather just not have sex with a woman, if the only ‘safe’ (re both STIs and pregnancy) way to have sex with her, is with a condom on.
