I live in a Republican state (trying to get out), and I just had to watch 3 anti-trans commercials in a row. Hating trans people is fucking catnip to these people.
Transphobes think about transness more than transgender people do
yep. same thing with homophobes, many of them are obsessed with homoeroticism. and a lot of racists are obsessed with race play.
0.o
Yeah it feels like most states it’s VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO, and a few are so safely Blue that you can vote for like Communist Party and still not have the GoP win
When it’s a choice between “might try to kill trans people” and “Definitely will try to kill trans people” then you have to pick the lesser evil.
This is wrong. All people deserve equal rights, and if they don’t support that they should leave the Democratic party. It’s supposed to be foundational values for all, liberty and justice for all, and all that jazz and apple pie, but it really is not. Dems still best for democracy and We The People, but needs improvement.
It was all a lie,
Liberty, justice for all,
The owners get rich
This is the problem with the Democratic Party.
its not a Party. Its 37 parties in a trenchcoat, and there is no unifying idealism, goal, or outlook that binds them to singular purpose outside of the 2 party system crushing all the non-extrem-right-wing people together into the not-extreme-right-wing party (that is slowly becoming more and more right wing because of all the right wing people being forced into it due to the 2 party system)
You have some people, that genuinely care about the people and think its governments job to serve them, like Mamdani, and AOC, and Bernie Sanders (Who is technically Independent, but is basically a Democrat in everything but affiliation label, since he’s always worked so close with them)
Then you have some people that don’t think trans people should have rights/exist, and should be put in prison, but don’t want to actively hunt them for sport, which makes them too lefty liberal for Republicans.
Then you have the actual Republicans like Fetterman, Sinema, and Manchin, who are actual Republicans running as democrats just to act as saboteurs on any democratic vote or cohesion.
and a whole big spectrum from shit to okay in between.
As a trans person I beg you, do not listen to my sister, Erin. She is not thinking clearly or responsibly about what will happen to us if Democrats lose.
If you would like to protest on our behalf, please don’t do it by not voting.
A Republican victory costs the community one seat for one term
No. Republicans plan to “end” us. Letting them win costs us our very lives.
Even if that weren’t the case, we are not so selfish as to sacrifice other people, and our planet, just to prove a point.
I feel like Erin has a point.
I also feel like the Dems in my state are the infinitely better alternative to the scam artist and big pharma conmen the GOP is putting forward. I’d much rather petition Acton and Brown to support the trans community than march in huge protests that are ultimately ignored by their Republican counterparts that are actively trying to harm and denigrate the trans community.
I’m seriously considering moving to Marie Gluesenkamp Perez‘s district and challenging her seat. She’s part of the “Blue dog coalition” and votes like she’s MAGA, she’s not any more qualified to do the job than I am, frankly I’m more qualified because she has no actual qualifications.
Edit: I’m from her state just an hour north, not just some rando
AFAIK you don’t have to move. Candidates are not required to live in the district for which they seek office. There are tons of districts across the US with basically unchallenged status quo incumbents who could be easily replaced by progressives.
For those who want to do an even funnier thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entryism
Brent Hennrich is probably our best bet, but he needed way more funding to get to traditional ads to reach people so he just couldn’t really get in front of her.
Oh look. Yet another article post primary election to convince people not to vote so the Republican wins the general election.
If you don’t vote you’re a moron.
Republicans taking extreme stances on identity politics was always just bait to drag their opponents to their own court. And it worked beautifully. For the past ten years or so, it’s all been like that. Affordability, healthcare, work rights, all have been eclipsed by fucking identity politics, and I’m tired of it.
Why are we even focusing on performative bullshit when the vast majority of people are hurting in very specific and actionable ways? And by “we” I mean anyone left of center.
“avoid” the democrats
who do you think that benefits?
blue no matter who
“Calling out transphobia is bad” - you, probably
This article suggests that you should avoid Xavier Becerra (essentially in favor of Steve Hilton) because he (correctly) pointed out the CA state constitution doesn’t protect trans people playing in sports.
You can go ahead and look up what Becerra has done in support of trans people vs what Steve Hilton has done. Spoilers: Steve Hilton referred to trans people playing in the CIF championship as a ‘violation’ of the state constitution and held a ‘Save Girls Sports’ conference. He is outright anti-trans.
Adam Gray (D) is essentially an anti-trans centrist piece of shit, however whatever he’s done pales in comparison to what Kevin Lincoln II’s ® stated position on trans people is.
So no, this isn’t ‘calling out transphobia’ - this is more DSA brainrot.
What does this have to do with DSA?
DSA types only swing at Democrats.
DSA are Democrats, just progressive ones like Bernie AOC Mamdani etc. They literally run as Dems and would never discourage you from voting. Activism is a big part of their brand.
If you’re talking about the chucklefuck reactionary edgelords and ID-politic protest non-voters on Lemmy, I dont know if these have a name. Accelerationist doomers describes some. Hardline single issue voters would probably describe the rest who aren’t bots or feds.
Here’s the thing, Hasan Piker explicitly did not support Kamala during the 2024 election cycle. Hasan Piker is one of, if not the biggest, DSA proponent.
I simply disagree with the idea that DSA types would ‘never discourage’ me from voting. That just isn’t true.
I think you’re spot on about the accelerationist doomers and whatever other adjectives you’d like to describe the people here with.
Sorry for delay. Not on twitch and had to read up on this guy. He has no DSA affiliation, certainly nothing formal. He appears to be politically aligned but his wiki makes no mention of DSA and his influence appears to be primarily in online/streaming spaces rather than in traditional political organizing or offline movements.
The reason I say DSA won’t discourage you from voting is because they are a political organization with a strategy built around reform, which is impossible with single-issue purity testing.
If this article was before the primaries it would be more helpful and get the right people elected.
Since this article came out after the primaries and two months before the general it serves only one purpose.
And it appears your dumbass is taking the bait.
“I’m not voting because no candidate is perfect and I’ll let the party that views me as property win.” - your dumbass, without a doubt.
I never said I wouldn’t vote for the Democrats if I could, the article doesn’t say you shouldn’t either, just that the author personnaly wouldn’t
The article doesn’t need to say it. The author said it and implies other should via the context of the article itself.
This is the type of shit that makes idiots not vote.
the article doesn’t say you shouldn’t either,
The article literally says:
Many, myself included, have argued against voting for the worst offenders on this list even where it means a Republican takes the seat.
What part of that says to you “This is what I’m doing, but you shouldn’t do that.” - particularly with the second part of the sentence where it’s clear they are talking about more than a single vote (their vote).
You’re right that the article doesn’t say “you shouldn’t do that” but that’s not what I’m claiming, I’m saying the article says it’s up to the readers to consider if transphobia is a deal breaker, if it is then I would say the blame is more on those Democrats for being transphobic, than on the people that are against transphobia
I’m sure the Republican opponents in these states will be much better for Trans rights.
In fact, if we just allow another Republican majority in the legislative branch, they’ll probably just fix the whole thing.
I never called to vote for Republicans, I didn’t even say you shouldn’t vote for those Democrats and neither does the article.
All the article says is that those Democrats are transphobic and that the author, and that’s only his view, wouldn’t vote for them. I, myself would probably vote for them if I could vote in the US, but I can still understand why the author wouldn’t.
If there was an election between Hitler and Stalin, would you have voted for either one because he was slightly less worse than the other one? I personally wouldn’t have, if that is your case too then clearly there is a point where a candidate can be so bad you wouldn’t even vote for them if their opponent is worse, that threshold is just different for everyone
This article does argue for abstaining, it’s literally the entire point of writing this article just before midterms:
Many, myself included, have argued against voting for the worst offenders on this list even where it means a Republican takes the seat. A Republican victory costs the community one seat for one term.
And it’s such a fucking idiotic take.
It’s an article calling out politicians for their answers on “gotcha questions” like ‘do you want biological males playing women’s sports’
It’s interesting you quote that without showing the previous sentence
What you do with this information is up to you.
Also, these politicians didn’t just answer poorly to gotcha question, they actively helped pass bills that took away the rights of trans people
Shomari Figures and Terri Sewell […] Voted yes [for a bill] banning gender-affirming care for transgender service members
Mary Peltola […] One of only six Democrats to vote for [a bill] which contained severe anti-trans and anti-DEI amendments.
Adam Gray […] One of only three Democrats to vote for a bathroom ban on military bases for transgender people, along with a sports ban, a gender-affirming care ban, and several other anti-trans amendments to the NDAA.
Should I keep going or do you think all these bills that marginalize trans people were only “gotcha questions”?
It’s interesting you quote that without showing the previous sentence
Oh please… Just because the author framed the statement with some weasel words doesn’t make the intent any less clear. “I’m not telling you what to do, but…”
Rob Sand, Democratic nominee for governor. Actively opposes transgender participation in sports, answering “no” when a conservative radio host asked whether “biological males” should play women’s sports.
When you pile weak examples like this into your list, it’s clear that you’re just trying to discredit any Democrat and discourage voting.
Taking away an oppressed minorities right is “weak”, what would you consider strong evidence of them being transphobic then? Would they have to start directly beating trans people while calling them slurs? Because if you don’t consider taking away trans people rights transphobic then you don’t have any right to say who trans people should vote for.
Edit: Also I’m not trying to discredit all Democrats, only the transphobic ones
do you think all these bills that marginalize trans people were only “gotcha questions”?
Do you think Republicans running against those Democrats would be better for trans rights?
No, that’s clearly not what I’m saying
How many of those bills do you think would have even been up for consideration if republicans weren’t the majority?
Yeah, democrats could be a lot better, but of the two options we have, a democrat majority is clearly the better choice.
But neither me nor the article is saying to vote for Republicans, it’s just showing that these democrats voted for transphobic laws, if readers decide that that makes them not want to vote, then maybe the blame should be on the Democrats that willingly took away the rights of an oppressed minority and not on the people that don’t want to compromise on trans rights
Pushing false dilemmas is bad.
-me, definitely
hate looking at the comments for these pieces, its always full of people that think me and my sisters exist to farm votes and telling us to enjoy the camps when we dont want to associate with people that betray and genocide us
Enjoy abstaining and being “sent to camps” regardless, whatever the fuck that means, but this time along with a bunch of brown people.
Immediately proves my point right
If the point is that single issue voters are morons, yes, absolutely.
Booby trapping one’s home with carbonyl, cyanogen, and azide compounds can’t hurt. Nobody will be sending anyone to a camp then.
So tired of seeing my congressperson on every one of these lists. I voted against them in the primary, but in the general election my other choice will be someone who openly supports Trump.
That is, alas, the way. Support better candidates when you have the chance, and vote against fascism and genocide when able.
Fact. Not voting might succeed in teaching Dems a lesson about how important it is to vote for bills that contain pro-trans legislation and against bills that contain anti-trans legislation.
But do you want to know what not voting is far better at? Giving Republicans the power to end us.
Early election begins in two weeks. Not voting Democrat = voting to exterminate trans people. Anyone who tells you otherwise is either confused or wants us to die.
Many, myself included, have argued against voting for the worst offenders on this list even where it means a Republican takes the seat.
Fascists love your strategy and support.
When Trump ran the first time, I made the point to everyone I know that even if you yourself aren’t racist, if you vote for Trump, you’re voting for racism, so the difference between you and a racist is too negligible to count.
The same is true of anyone willing to vote for a transphobic Democrat.
This article tries to claim that Xavier Becerra is transphobic, as if Steve Hilton isn’t infinitely worse (also Becerra isn’t transphobic, he correctly stated the CA state constitution doesn’t protect trans people playing in sports - you can go ahead and research his support of trans people yourself).
You’re a joke of a human being and you’re causing far more damage to trans people pushing messages like this.
Single-issue voters are the bane of democracy and progressive progress. And nothing is more ironic that voting to sign your own death warrant.
So.why are you Blue MAGA types so gung ho for doing it?
You understand that Neoliberal Austerity is the breeding ground of fascism, right? You are advocating for continuing doing the exact thing that made Trump viable to begin with. Blue No Matter Who is just MAGS with extra steps.
you Blue MAGA types
Since you’d like to be an uncivil little bitch, you can fuck off to my block list.
This is how MAGA I am: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck_v._Eiland-Hall
Where’s your fucking receipts?
Yeah. You’re not really beating the allegations here.
The fact that you think that’s “receipts” is hilarious, honestly. But just in case this is your first time back on the Internet since making the website that I’m very sure you really are the person who made: Blue MAGA is a perjorative thrown at people who are just as deluded in partisan non-reality as the red hat crowd, but Blue flavored. The Blue MAGA prefers the lies on CNN and MSNBC to the lies on Fox News, but is just as attached to their preferred set of lies as the red variety. Y’know. Like someone who thinks Glen Beck matters all that much in the grand scheme of things.
You’re a coward and a fool
And you seem to be a bootlicking supporter of genocide, transphobia, and Neoliberal Austerity feeding the rise of Fascism.
Which makes you a multi-millionaire or yet another recipient of the DNC’s biannual “Fell for it again” award. If you’re unsure which, check your bank balance.
Blue MAGA is nothing. Dumb ML communities on the internet try to make it a thing, but you guys are irrelevant.
but you guys are irrelevant.
Then quit blaming us when your shitbag genocide enthusiasts fail to win the quadrennial popularity contest.
Exactly, now shut up and vote for our Blue flavored genocide!
You really think that I should vote for Rhett Marques over Shomari Figures? Like this is a genuine belief? I am voting in the midterms and currently plan on voting for Shomari Figures…
Erin says that some people have argued for withholding votes from anti-trans democrats. That’s not the same as casting a vote for the opposition. It’s not at all ridiculous to withhold your vote from someone who is actively trying to harm you or throw you under the bus to advance their career. I know that’s hard to understand if you aren’t personally affected by something.
It’s not an anti-trans Democrat. It’s a Republican who ran as Democrat
Which ones?
Most of these states will never elect a progressive Dem (as proven by the primaries over and over again). Someone left of center is far better than a Republican.
“Normal” Democrats are slightly right of center.
Okay, so which of the Dems named here are Republicans running as Democrats? I just want to look up the rest of their policies.
If you don’t know by now, what’s the point in me telling you? It’s over.
whoopsie doodle your mask slipped
Nah. They’re right. If you have to ask at this point in the game, it’s a dead giveaway you won’t care what the answer is.
Go on and vote to support the slow creep towards fascism over the sprint towards fascism. The fascists love that you’re trying. They all know how to boil a frog.
Hey watch, I can make false statement too: you never voted for Trump.
my dude if you want to get in to a little whiny fight pick someone who wants to be in one
Stupid advice. Post primary season, vote for the democrat, no matter who, because as hideous as some of them are, they’re better than the republican alternative, and we’re voting to take back the majority.
Think of the big picture.
The VBNMW crowd got us to where we are. Despite liberals wildest fantasies the DNC is a right wing party that continues to shift further to the right with every VBNMW vote. You’ve taught them they can do whatever they want, pass the most opppressive laws, and you will keep coming back
The VBNMW crowd got us to where we are.
Common opinion, but incorrect. The longterm near-complete lack of voter turnout in primary elections, especially Democratic primaries, especially outside presidential election years, and especially by all but the elderly, is by far the greatest predictor of the rightward political shift of the DNC, because it essentially abdicated agenda-setting power over which candidates end up on the ballot to DNC elites.
General election voter turnout has almost zero effect on the policies adopted by future candidates. Not voting in a general election, especially if you did not vote in the primary, is quite likely the worst possible way to communicate your preference as a voter.
If you didn’t participate in the primary, attempting to “take a stand” in the general by not voting is utterly ambiguous. That shouldn’t surprise anyone. There are any number of reasons you might have stayed home. The primary election was your chance to say why.
But let’s say you did participate in the primary, and can safely assume your reasons were recorded. It remains that, by not voting, you join the elgible-non-voter category of the population (majority of the electorate in most US elections) for an election cycle. Since those who don’t vote in one election are more likely to not vote in the next, future candidates have less incentive to consider the non-voter’s political concerns.
All to say, the general election is not the place to communicate your values, especially if you do so by not voting, and especially if you didn’t participate in the primary election. It works against you, against those you care about, against our planet, and may god have mercy on your soul QED
If you believe democrats are a right wing party you’re delusional… Could they be more left? yes, but they’re hardly right wing…if they were, republicans wouldn’t vilify them quite as much…
if they were, republicans wouldn’t vilify them quite as much…
Yes they would and they do. Republicans are are podophilic cannibals who would eat their way through their mother’s belly if they had teeth as foetuses. They don’t care. If you have a D then you are their enemy.
The rare valid point. ;-)
The starting point for leftist policies is anti capitalism. Democrats are very much pro capitalism, therefore they are a right wing party. Do you need any other simple political concepts explained like your 5?
That seems wrong. They’re the only other major party, Republicans have to go after Democrats regardless of how close they are on whatever specific issues. Otherwise who else would they run against?
But also, if you think Republicans are acting reasonably in the first place…
Objectively they are a right wing party, you are a right wing country, nothing overtly left wing is allowed to exist. You might have a handful of policies that are vaguely reminiscent of left wing policies, but the reality is you have a right wing party and an extremely right wing party.
NYC’s mayor Mamdani is probably the single biggest step forward… If he can make it work, and demonstrate that it works, it’s going to be easier to advocate across the country. That being said, NYC has a HUGE tax revenue base that most places don’t have. it’s easy to have all the public programs when you have the tax base to pay for it… Shithole Arkansas is not going to be able to pull that off… There aren’t enough millionaires to tax to pay the bill.
Come on, you know the democrats are constantly trying republican lite plateforms. Then say ‘see I’m not as crazy as them!’
It’s like you didn’t read the article at all, the point is yes, MAGAts are awful, but they are temporary. If we allow the dnc to abandon people then there is nobody for those people.
That’s just it…they aren’t temporary…as long as they have air they’re breathing…
in European politics they would be considered right wing. in USA I guess they should count more as centrist
They are centrist in the US…but the way our system is built makes it a 2-party system by default… Until we get either ranked-choice-voting nationwide or a complete remake into a parlimentary system, it’s not going to change.
Think of the big picture.
This is the big picture. If we allow them to capitulate on human rights, there is no coming back from that.
The correct response to knowing Chamberlain is going to appease Hitler is probably not appointing a literal Nazi as prime minister.
If you’re in the Sudetenland, it probably feels about the same either way.
Well keep pissing away your vote and see how that changes things…
What an absolutely condescending response. A majority of Democrats that have conceded to Republican positions is no better or worse for me than Republicans. Overall, and long term, it is a much more damaging position for the Democrats to cede civil rights positions.
Isn’t calling democrats "the other Nazi party* and the like the same kind of condescending bullshit?
Again, you’re doing the republicans job for them.
Grow the fuck up.
you’re doing theil republicans job for them.
No, that would be your party spending the last forty years working their asses off to ensure that the conditions in which fascism can arise would blanket the whole country.
The Republicans couldn’t have done in two decades as much damage to the country as Clinton did in two terms.
See that’s the problem. “Your party” vs. “Our party”
We have a two party system, by design. It’s a stupid design, but it’s the design. So as long as we are broken into “Progressives”, “Democrats” and “Republicans”, progressives and democrats are going to continue to lose and the far right will continue to move to the white because they can, there is nothing stopping them. They don’t have to cowtow to the reasoned left, they can just ignore it because they know the left will continue to fight each other and end up being fucking useless in the process.
We need to figure out how to bring Progressives and Democrats together…and calling Democrats “just as bad” isn’t going to do that at all…
Like it or not, Democrats have the fundraising, and fundraising wins elections, so maybe figure out a way to get them onboard rather than demonizing them. You need them more than they need you.
We have a two party system, by design.
And that’s the only correct thing in your reply. Since we have that system by design, what in the world makes you think the people who designed it would ever allow you to use it to vote away their wealth and power?
We need to figure out how to bring Progressives and Democrats together
Under the banner of a revolutionary socialist party that isn’t interested in asking at the ballot box for permission to stop fascism.
Like it or not, Democrats have the fundraising, and fundraising wins elections
And if you can’t see how that implies that the Democrats are just as much a part of the problem as Republicans, then I’m not sure there’s any hope for you.
Isn’t calling democrats "the other Nazi party* and the like the same kind of condescending bullshit?
Now you’re just making shit up, if you don’t want to read, don’t just make up random bullshit that you think I said.
It’s over for the US. The important election was 2016 and we didnt even know it. I think it’s just best if America settles into its new role as third world Nazi country.
Except a) we still have the biggest nuclear arsenal on the planet, b) there really is no settling with fascists, they will keep genociding and invading and stirring shit up until enough people finally get sick of them and put it to a stop
US ain’t nuking anyone (maybe itself). The world is gonna let the US rot from the inside out and everyone will easily transition to another ally.
No thing on earth is irreplaceable. US is just getting replaced.
I think they should just go full on crazy to thin that lead poisoned herd they have. Maybe a civil war is the answer. With like, 80% casualties.
The important election was 1980, maybe 2000. Every election is important, for that matter.
And no, it is not better if we accept this. “Oh, well, Nazi Germany is invading countries and killing Jews, LGBTQ+, Poles, many many other groups. Welp, I guess just let them keep doing that.”
You were doing all of that for many decades before 1980? Are you very young?
The smart ones will get out. Bye.
I mean, you’re not wrong…I thought we had a chance when 2020 came and Biden turned it around for a bit… but then people gave up… Yeah, he was old…but you know what? He was old and sane, unlike the psychotic fossil we have now…
Old and sane and doing a fucking genocide. As usual you libs don’t see brown people outside the US as people, though.
I dunno how sane Biden was…
Congrats on falling for fascist propaganda. The man had a stutter. Everyone makes occasional gaffes (q.v. Obama and the… 53 states? whatever, many many examples of every fucking politician saying SOMETHING stupid at some point)
Congrats on defending a brain dead geriatric genocidaire, because blue propaganda told you he was a nice guy.
You think Biden was all there? Wow. No wonder.
From everything I’ve read about him he was a kind, caring, giving individual who cared deeply for this country. I’ve seen nothing to suggest otherwise.
Rich people sure do have a way of making themselves look good. How many bombs did he drop?
goalposts ← → you
What are you?
Every president drops bombs… That’s gone on since the beginning of time… But some are more judicious about HOW they’re dropped (and where) and some just let shit fly…
Americans are disgusting.
wrong…I thought we had a chance when 2020 came and Biden turned it around for a bit…
Well yeah. If that’s what you think Biden did then it’s not surprising that you also think he was sane.
Hey I got to keep my job through covid. I didn’t die (though came close in 2020) The Chips act pumped a lot of money into the industry (until the fascists killed it)
He did ok as president. The mistake he made was thinking he could run for a second term. That’s the one thing I have difficulty forgiving him for… He should have handed over the reins at the end of his term and let Harris run a full primary…
He did ok as president
If you’re labor aristocracy and view the stock market as the economy, sure.
For everyone who lives in the real world he was just as bad as Trump, cable news just didn’t put it in your face and spoil the grift.
Fun trivia question: at what point in Biden’s Presidency were those “kids in cages” at the border released?
they’re better than the republican alternative
Except they aren’t if you’re trans.
The people who really need advice aren’t voters, it’s the professional political consultant morons who are allowing their own candidates to throw away voters like this. Besides being morally abominable, it’s just bad politics.
You think the MAGA candidate is better?
Pick the least bad…that’s the only way we get better. Vindman is my rep and he’s absolutely useless, but he’s better than ANY of the republican alternatives in much the same way “Zero” is a bigger number than a negative.
And I’m voting for taking the majority, which right now is all that counts - the longer MAGA holds the majority, the harder it will be to ever recover.
What I think doesn’t really matter. Big picture, you’re asking trans people and their allies to be active participants in their own dehumanization, and that’s just not going to happen at the numbers you need to reliably win elections so we’ll just be back into a fascism crisis in one or two elections again at best with these kind of candidates.
The only way things get better is if the least bad party gets better, both so they actually try to make things better and so that they do a better job keeping fascists out of office, so I hope for every comment people make telling voters what they need to do and think they’re writing five to their lawmakers telling them to stop being such a hard product to sell.
Maybe you should try to sell this PoV to everyone else who is being actively hurt by Republicans and the current administration.
Some of these candidates are against trans people in women’s sports, and that’s pretty much it. Tell me again how does that compare to deporting people who have been living in the country for decades, or not being able to afford clean water or electricity.
It doesn’t matter. I’ve given up trying to help the world. Pulled back all political donations, Bought a big gas-guzzling muscle-car and stopped caring about living into my 70’s. The world is in their hands now… This is the world they failed to vote for.
I vote for the least bad every election. We don’t get better, we just get worse slower. I don’t have a better alternative though, it’s all pretty hopeless.
But what do you do before the general election? That is the only place to make any real change. If you’re hoping for better options in the general election, what are you doing to help make that happen?
I gave up in 2024…when 7 million people who voted for Biden failed to show the fuck up to vote against Trump, I took that as my cue that it’s fucking hopeless. I bought a gas-guzzling monster and stopped giving a shit about my cholesterol and blood-pressure… Fuck the world if this is how it works.
The propaganda about “both sides” and “it doesn’t matter” is relentless, yes, but I’m afraid that doesn’t mean you didn’t fall for it. It also worked on 7 million people. That’s why the propaganda is relentless.
Crazy that people didn’t want to vote for an ongoing genocide and a weekend at Bernie’s president, lmao.
A vote for Biden was a vote for the status quo that created Trump. The same status quo thats not protecting Trump
That sounds a lot like “fuck everybody else if I’m not getting mine”.
Do you think many legislators and activists who fought to abolish segregation were pro LGTBQ? No fucking chance. Yet they were unequivocally better than the alternative. Fifty years later, here we are, debating if we should let literal nazis take congressional seats because the opposition hasn’t taken a pro trans stance. What a joke.
Which one of these people are the same as their republican opposition if you’re Trans? Be specific.
Republicans will legitimately support making their medical treatment illegal at the federal level. If they win again, will probably support imprisoning or executing trans people, they are subhuman to the republican party.
While their Democrat counterpart might stop them from playing highschool sports.
Oh, if the Dems are only going to trample on some of my rights, I guess that’s okay.
Have you not seen what’s happened in the UK in the last few years? That’s the playbook. Their center-left party realized that every time they take away another right from the trans community, they get more support from conservatives and only lose support with trans people that they want to exclude anyway. Transphobic Democrats will steer the party into doing the same thing here if they can.
That said, this article should’ve come out months ago. The best way to kick transphobes out of the party is to primary them, not let them lose in the general.
Their center-left party realized that every time they take away another right from the trans community, they get more support from conservatives and only lose support with trans people that they want to exclude anyway. Transphobic Democrats will steer the party into doing the same thing here if they can.
So your argument here is that these Democrats are attempting to steer the party into a transphobic agenda, so maybe a few party members attempting exert a small amount of pressure on the direction of party.
And your solution is for democrats to abstain from voting and… What… Allow Republicans complete control? I’m sure that will work well for you.
Or maybe these politicians aren’t transphobic at all and are simply attempting to walk a tightrope in an imperfect system so that they can take power away from a much worse party.
I’m sure that will work well for you.
This is the point of the article: none of these options are good for trans people. If the choice is “the people who campaign on wanting to erode my legal protections” (like many Republicans) or “the people who campaign on wanting to erode my legal protections” (like the entire list in the article), then, from the perspective of preserving trans rights, there is not a choice. Electing transphobes empowers transphobes and normalizes transphobia, regardless of which letter they have next to their name.
If you’re a single-issue voter who only cares about trans rights and you’ve seen this exact bullshit play out already across the pond, there’s no vote that will make your life better.
As for this line:
maybe these politicians aren’t transphobic at all and are simply attempting to walk a tightrope in an imperfect system
So I’m not supposed to trust what a candidate tells me or how they’ve previously voted, and I should just assume they mean something more secretly benevolent? That’s literally exactly why my in-laws voted for Trump: they didn’t believe anything that was reported about Project 2025 because, and I quote, “he used to be a Democrat.”
Oh, if the Dems are only going to trample on some of my rights, I guess that’s okay.
So would you rather have some of your rights trampled or all of them? That’s the choice in the general, because as you say:
That said, this article should’ve come out months ago. The best way to kick transphobes out of the party is to primary them, not let them lose in the general.
Precisely. But when you ARE facing the general election, for fucks’ sake at least vote for the one that will fuck you over much less.
“Oh, you’re going to stab me with a knife? Well, fuck it, if you’re gonna stab me, just… just keep going then, I might as well get stabbed a dozen times.”
Yes, it sucks, and “sucks” doesn’t even begin to cover it.
Democrats only care about the marginalized as far as it keeps them in power. They say idle while Republicans passed over 500 anti trans laws across the country. They talk a big game while they throw the game to Republicans
Democrats only care about the marginalized as far as it keeps them in power
Most of the Democratic party is a lot better than this, but we do need to do a much better job of kicking shitheads out
And every time that idea forms, people parade the ‘we gotta take/hold the majority this next election, simmer down about those shitheads.’
Having spent a decade as a volunteer and then paid Dem campaign staffer and heard the way the people you’ve never heard of who actually control the levers of power inside the party apparatus talk about trans people, BLM, and anything at all that might fuck up their Wall St gravy train, I can assure you that “most of the Democratic Party” is absolutely not better than this, and the few who are will never be given any power to act against the ones who aren’t.
The number of people arguing trans people should compromise and vote for people who actively take away their rights is disturbing
Republican voters would consistently cast their ballot, no matter what. Democrat voters are less reliable. Doing nothing is, in practice, a vote for republicans.
Now, if you would rather not vote for no trans women in sports, and instead let the candidate who supports that, plus cuts in Medicaid, ICE raids in Hispanic neighborhoods, and a data center right at your door, I’m sorry to say but you would be a self centered moron.
Hmm, should I vote for an anti-trans Democrat that’s going to support democrat majority and generally not going to support the nosedive into fascism,
Or should I vote for the republican that definitely wants trans people dead. And fascism. And definitely less worker protections.
This is such a tough choice.
When Biden arrested 3000 non violent student protestors, that wasn’t fascism?
Right, because Biden himself directed cops to arrest them.
Lol.
Average .ml response, of course. Everything is fascism, so let’s give actual fascists free way to take over the country.
The actual fascist was supplying the weapons for a genocide and then arresting protestors for protesting it, I dunno how much more it needs to be spelled out, but your country has been fascist for decades, lmfao.
Oh look, the “try doing nothing again, maybe it will work this time” sock puppets are active again. It must be nearing election season again.
Normally, I would just block fascist sock puppets, but you guys showing up always reminds me to look at the early voting schedule for my area.I get it, but most of us here from the US are not single issue voters. From my viewpoint the democrats controlling Congress stops or at least slows laws harmful to the trans community, plus a lot of other harmful things compared to republicans.
Or people sit out and you get the republican agenda all the way. No good options.
I see many commenters wishing to accelerate the decline of the US (understandable but also fuck you) but it’s also a good reminder that the fights for gay rights, worker’s rights, and more took decades.
Shit even MLK day took near 20 years to be recognized and his family had to fight tooth and nail for that.
We had this same discussion in 2024. The ‘don’t vote for democrats’ crowd got what they wanted.
And the Democrats doubled down on everything that was driving away their voters, proving that not only were those voters right, but that there is no redeeming the party.
But keep doing exact the thing that created the problem, I’m sure that’ll eventually fix it.
No, it proved that your stragetgy of moving the Democrats left by not voting was a failure.
And that your strategy of ensuring the status quo never changes by reliably voting for it no matter how terrible it is has been a rousing success.
Unless that’s not what you were trying to do, in which case you can find plenty of clown makeup this time of year in the Spirit Halloween that opened where the jobs used to be in your town.
If I’m a leftist, and the dems aren’t representing my beliefs and actively harming my community, why do you think they deserve my vote?
That’s the thing, you aren’t a leftist
If you’re fine with Republican policies instead, then they don’t. Do what you want.
Lol, you should be saying that to the party, so they win!
Lol
