• pulsewidth@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    On windows, it takes me two steps:

    • Open powershell
    • winget install -q vlc

    I still prefer Linux though, for many other reasons.

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      8 days ago

      Yeah, was going to say the same thing. I prefer Linux too but I think they are intentionally doing an unfair comparison here.

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        8 days ago

        They are. Linuxsucks says stupid things like this all the time though, so figured why not lol

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      8 days ago

      not even…just find the downloaded executable, aim your mouse and double click the install icon…go!

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        True, but I’ve moved to using winget for everything that allows it, as I can then update allllll my programs with one command just like Linux, no more searching for and downloading updated installers, this does it all:

        winget upgrade --all

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      8 days ago

      Absolutely… But our mates at Linux sucks love to exaggerate. So why don’t we eh

      You do need to sign up for a Microsoft account though to use the store… and Microsoft likely uses the list of downloaded apps for their own benefit to know what to target (similar to what I suspect apple does)

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        8 days ago

        so? So MS now knows you use VLC? So what? You think the MS version has injected some malware/spyware? I love Linux…I use Deb, but man…troubleshooting that OS is fucking retarded as shit.

      • I should have been more clear, honestly I forgot they even have a paid service because it’s entirely unnecessary.

        No, just go to ninite.com and tick boxes for software you want, download the one .exe it packages for you, and that .exe will not just install your chosen software but also update it too. Also strips out bloatware that’s typically bundled with free software, automatically says no to everything no self respecting person wants, that kind of thing.

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          8 days ago

          Okay, thanks for the tip. I’ll test on VM and deploy if it proves itself. Thanks.

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            I’ve used it on basically every windows install for the past uhhh 20 years maybe? It’s not a must-have but it sure speeds things up.

            It doesn’t have everything on there but it makes installing common programs so much easier.

          • back when I used to be the personal help desk for some of the most illiterate end users alive, I kept ninite with firefox, vlc, various runtime environments, libre office, I forget what else, on a flash drive next to my win7 (later win10) install flash drive, so I could do a wipe and reinstall with some degree of expediency.

            I don’t miss it, but I remember some of what I was doing.

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    8 days ago

    Not gonna lie…installing anything on windows is so much easier… While I like Linux…installing and troubleshoot anything on linux is soo fucking cumbersome I would not use linux as my daily.

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      Not really in fedora. Everything is flatpak now or rpm .

      Steam is basically automatic too, gog is inbound and epic store is inbound.

      The biggest issue with windows also is that most updates aren’t properly centralized

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        Is it as easy as double-clinking an icon? Or do I have to create some program to install and troubleshoot incompatible dependencies? Seriously…Linux needs to think in terms of someone who know nothing about PC’s and only uses a iphone…not even an android! …if you can believe that…just ask any schmoo off the street.

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          What are you talking about?

          With flat pak it literally is clicking an icon and pressing install. Same as rpms.

          The dependencies bullshit isn’t a real thing. It’s just something people who are trolling say… Which makes me wonder…

          Windows isn’t easy. If they don’t use windows store, most apps run their own auto update thing in the background.

          And macOS is a terrible example of usability. It’s actually used as an example of bad /inconsistent design in uni . Even something as basic as remote support using anydesk is a nightmare on MacOS these days

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            I use Debian (before that slackware)…so don’t use rpm(red hat, etc.). I can tell you dependencies and troubleshooting that crap IS VERY MUCH A REAL thing! Flat packs are nice if they exist, if not…hopefully ‘sudo apt-get install’ picks it all up. Windows is actually still easier to troubleshoot, because it got a more robust central support…enterprise-wise…good luck with Linux…search the web forever! I can’t speak to MacOS, since Jobs left. I imagine its a shit show nowadays. However their iphone is unbeaten…stuff just works! …in weird ways.

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              7 days ago

              Debian is not considered a user friendly distro…

              It’s like buying a race car, and complaining its uncomfortable. I have used debian in the past

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                Yes, that’s very true…Debian is definitely not user friendly. However it is the most streamlined Linux out there next to slackware…now that’s a cluster-fucking linux nerd orgy! I used Redhat back in the day…but it left me feeling the distro was getting too commercialized. I may revisit it. To follow your analogy… Debian is more like buying a sports car and complaining why it doesn’t come in automatic? :-)