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Pennsylvania has a Democrat ogre, and we seem to have no problem saying, “fuck Fetterman”
Well tbf, he got a stroke and basically that’s how he turned conservative
That’s the story. I think he was always a sleeper and the stroke made him unable to walk the line.
Wasn’t there an interview from like the 80s were he said if he ran for president he would run repub cause they were idiots and he could trick them easily?
He was talking about fetterman, but yes trump said that and why he switched from dem to republican. Hes also said (and was correct) that dems are far better for the economy as well.
you explain sinema that way too?
Sinema thought she was clever trying to become a dem version of John McCain and destroyed her career in the process.
Nothing fair about that
Pennsylvania has a Democrat ogre
Two, really. Fetterman’s the one that keeps showing up on reactionary news media to talk shit. But Shapiro’s been taking his own turn as an avowed Zionist, a corporate sleaze, and a reactionary fearmonger whenever he’s had the opportunity.
If he were a DEMOCRAT I would FORGIVE all the Blatant Corruption and CHILD RAPING!
-This is how REPUBLICANS are!
Republicans aren’t the root of every problem we’re facing today, but I’d bet a lot of money that they’re probably responsible for the majority of them.
Political brain rot is believing people dislike Trump solely because he’s a Republican.
That’s the fundamental problem with American politics. Too many people treat it like team sports: I have to defend my side no matter what.
No, you don’t.
You don’t owe a political party your loyalty. Parties are tools, not identities. If your own side does something wrong, or even something you consider objectively immoral, you should be willing to say so. Blind partisanship isn’t a virtue; it’s the abandonment of independent judgment.
His party affiliation has nothing to do with it.Trump has always been a POS human being full stop.
He’s the archetype of the 80s movie developer who wants to tear down the old skate rink or whatever.
He’s like the reverend from Footloose without the saving grace of being played by John Lithgow.
For you. I see Dems constantly glazing Obama. Who, while not as bad as trump, was pretty fucking bad in a “it’s like Bush never left” kind of way. Affiliation is all that matters to a stunning number of people.
“it’s like Bush never left”
What’s that based on?
And saying he’s “not as bad as Trump” is a ludicrous understatement.
What’s that based on?
He ordered almost 600 drone strikes in 7 different countries, hitting weddings schools and hospitals and killing scores of civilians. He renewed the patriot act, escalated the domestic spying program, maintained the CIA black site torture program, and persecuted the whistleblowers that told us about them. That’s what “hope and change” looks like apparently. And the Dems went completely silent. “No blood for oil” turned into “awww he’s charasmatic and plays basketball <3”
Ah yes whataboutism.
I’m pointing out blind partisanism isn’t exclusive to one party. Pretending that it is exclusive to one party is an example of blind partisanism.
Uh ya no. What you’re doing is the most typical argument tactic maga/repubs employ. Oh what about that guy that one time that isn’t in power anymore more, he did a thing so its fine for us to do this now.
It’s the same exact “it’s ok when my guy does it” attitude that led to trump. This isn’t a Republican problem. It’s an American problem. We’re not going to solve it by only focusing on half of the people doing it.
But yet here you are, what about Obama glazing. He’s not president. He’s not running again. Sure some people still glaze, most people don’t give or shit or know alot of what he did. We legit just turned the entire world against the US and swept a pedo ring under the rug. So wattaboutism the glazing.
So we should ignore half the people putting party above policy and pretend that this is only a Republican phenomenon. Surely that’s the way to fix it. Ok blue maga.
If he ran for president as a democrat he would not have been elected because he would not have made it through the primary process.
How the Hillary Clinton campaign deliberately “elevated” Donald Trump with its “pied piper” strategy
He only made it through the Republican primary because the Democrats helped him through it.
The punchline of the last decade has been how neoliberals and reactionaries within the liberal party laid the foundation for a Permanent Republican Majority. Even now, they’re more interested in beating back an insurgent popular progressive movement than ousting fascists in their own backyards.
A different take: If he was a Democrat, would he have the same opinions? If he existed as current, he would not be a democrat, but maybe his experiences were caused him to develop in other directions.
If Trump espoused democratic values, and was for things like universal healthcare, higher wages, privacy and personal autonomy, hadn’t been a sex pest, wasn’t a grifter and on and on and on… then no, I might not despise him.
Not that Jason above was in any way being sincere in the question.
He was a democrat and I’m fairly sure that beyond being manipulated through his dementia, he has not changed any of his beliefs or values on becoming a republican.
Racist barely human garbage 40 years ago, racist barely human garbage today.
No to throw around the ‘in name only’ epithet, but was he a democrat? or was that convenient label at the time? As a self-serving pig, he would chose the label that got him the most attention.
Disregarding the “left” vs “liberal” vs “democrat” disambiguation, since it doesn’t really matter in US politics at this moment, I’d suggest, when discussing “leadership”, that a Democratic person wants what is best for society as a whole while the current flavor of Republican wants what is best for the wealthy class.
I can’t think of a Mr. Trump example where he advocated for the working class without it being a transparent grift.
My point, though, is not “do I hate trump?” but instead a thought experiment of “what if trump was actually a Democrat?” If he was a wealthy-ish person advocating for the lower classes to get aid, reduce wealth inequality, improve climate management and various other “democratic” values, then yes, I would support him.
Current trump can get fucked regardless of his label.
I tend to not like felon rapist pedophiles regardless of their political affiliation.
And the Democrat party pretty regulartly ousts members with scandals that dwarf in comparison to Trump’s DAILY scandals.
Remember when Al Fra ken had to resign for giving too much tongue on a kiss and for screwing up his hover hands when posing for photos?
Remember when Howard Dean’s career was ended over making a weird screech in a victory speech?
Trump has a long and public history of being a piece of shit.
Turns out people who are fine with Nazis don’t even allow for the possibility of principles existing.
They exist, because we allowed them to.
How is this a shitpost in any kind of way
It’s got Trump’s picture in it. That’s pretty shitty.
Listen, that is true as fuck, but I came here to see meme shitposts, not political shitposts, and it’s getting way too common.
i think we lemmites should do our due diligence and start shitposting on c/politics
I think we should call ourselves lemminators
lmao that would be sweet revenge But… How many will join us? Is the question.
I keep saying someone needs to make a politicalshitpost community.
Of course we would. But also, this joke of a person would’ve never won as a Democrat. He chose Republicans because he knew he’d have a better shot with them.
The creature is sub-human.
Although I disagree with most of his politics, that’s not the reason I dislike him.
I would never support a pedophile even if they were able to achieve all my political ideals, to me that’s just a non-starter and I wish more people felt the same way. At this point the evidence and proven court cases are undeniable.
I thought he was playing a character before he ran for president in 2016. Like I never watched The Apprentice, but I saw ads for it and I figured he was just playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss.
If Trump had run and won as a democrat in 2016, I probably would have intensely disliked him like I did Biden and HRC, but not hated him like I do now because the democratic party would have steered him in very different ways than the GOP has.
I largely now hate his voters and hope they suffer far more than I hate Trump. Nothing but antipathy for them.
I never watched The Apprentice, but I saw ads for it and I figured he was just playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss.
Believe it or not, I always took it as the opposite. The first time Trump wanted to run he was laughed out of the primary. He had a long history as a narcissistic con man to anyone in the northeast and there’s no way he’d be elected. The entire point of “The Apprentice” was to rebuild his image.
Maybe some people took it as playing an exaggerated asshole clown of a boss, but he was toned down from reality. His narcissism was toned down, he acted mostly morally, less of an asshole, he appeared to know something about business. They even played down his need to plaster his name in gold everywhere. His entire image was much more palatable than the previous two decades of headlines
Unfortunately it succeeded
Above all else, Donald Trump is a useful idiot. More powerful people have been using him for a lot longer than he’s been president.
He’ll go along with whatever, as long as he gets attention/money. He’s crass, so if he was a Democrat president, he’d still be an asshole, but he would have gone along with the liberal policies.
But it would never happen because Democrats are held to a higher standard and, as an idiot, the only way he can make himself stand out is through bigotry, which doesn’t fly for liberal voters. DEFINITELY flies for conservatives though.
I still think it’s possible that in 2016 they told him they were signing him up to play the President in a mockumentary. And that they still haven’t told him otherwise.
USA seems to have a problem of valuing All people in society
Rob the poor to pay the rich. The American dream
I don’t hate him. He’s a typical rich asshole who was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
I’d have no problem with him if he spent his time playing golf and sailing yachts, as long as he paid his taxes and would be held accountable for any fraud he commits.
I hate the people who looked at this guy and said “he represents me, I want him in charge”. Or “I don’t understand what the words communist or fascist mean, I just want him to hurt those other people I don’t like”.
The people who put him in power are the problem. Without them he would just be another rich asshole saying bigoted shit on social media that we could just ignore. If they didn’t put him in the White House, there’s at least a chance that he’d be held accountable for his crimes.
His social media posts would be a case of “say whatever you want old man, you’re just making yourself look foolish.”. Instead he has a platform to make the entire country look foolish.
he shouldve just gone into pro wrestling instead of politics. would have been an all time manager
Or just a talk show.
as long as he paid his taxes and would be held accountable for any fraud he commits.
When he was campaigning the first time he bragged that the irs did not have the ability to untangle his businesses enough to prove anything …… somehow people thought that was a good thing?
Such a stupid fucking question from a stupid fucking person.
