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So, you think that the same people who couldn’t be bothered to vote are suddenly going to organize themselves and go on strike? What makes you think this will happen?
It doesn’t have to be everyone. I think I saw somewhere that the number just has to be like 3-6%
Most places I have worked expect to have a few people out on any day.
Even a 10% cut back across the board wouldn’t mean a lot, especially if other workers were willing to scab for overtime.
Good point, but a general strike is far more than just not working:
If people had put a tenth of that amount of work in, we would have had Bernie as the Dem nominee in 2020 and 2024.
I see nothing to make me think that my fellow citizens are going to organize themselves.
Sadly as people, we often don’t see what’s necessary, or don’t want to inconvenience ourselves, until it’s absolutely necessary, or often too late. Someone else will always take care of it before it’s a problem I have to deal with right?
We can’t get people to vote. There’s no way we’re getting a general strike
The cynic in me says there’s a big overlap between the unemployed and the unrepresented, so to speak.
There’s a reason why for the longest time there was a lot of vagrancy (still are) and loitering laws. Was so that the unemployed and homeless couldnt have a voice without making themselves a target
Many people cannot afford to strike
Many people cannot afford to not strike. Thousands of workers whose jobs depend on federal funding are uncertain about their livelihood. The coming rise in prices due to tariff nonsense will devastate working-class families.
Those people cannot afford not to strike
I tried organizing a board game night with 4 people. Literally impossible.
The most difficult part of every Dungeons and Dragons campaign is getting five working adults in the same room at the same time.
“getting”? It’s a basic democratic right?.. You are a democracy, right? You bombed all those countries in the name of it…
Well the difference here is that during the election, people had a hard time getting angry at Republicans because they were wrongly* perceived as not being in power due to Biden’s presidency. I doubt a general strike is likely as long as people feel comfortable and employed, but that could change and then I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s some serious tremors.
*Because Republicans in Congress blocked any new legislation and the Republican supreme court blocked whatever options were left over.
Our true power comes from mitochondria which is the power house of the cell. In this house we respect biology.
And when the mitochondria rebel against the tyranny of the nucleus?
OP is not wrong, but both are important.
If the billionaires were not concerned by the potential threat to their existence posed by democracy, they would not feel so motivated to destroy it.
Democratic government is among the most powerful tools that can be wielded by the working class against the capitalists.
I would like to know what this mythical democratic government exists alongside capitalism. As long as we have a society that’s dominated by capitalism and capitalists, there is no such thing as a democratic representative government.
I know this is just splitting hairs but for brief periods of time democratic principles did coexist with a capitalist system. For example, the post-WWII economic and civil rights booms existed inside of a capitalist system. It’s just that they can’t coexist for very long because they’re based on competing ideologies. Plus if it takes a world war to accomplish a brief respite in the class struggle it’s a very costly coexistence.
No it didnt lmao
Same reason they freaked the fuck out when we all had to shelter at home because of COVID. Didn’t last long because they needed meat for the grinder and forced a lot of back to work regardless of the risks.
And only callex those essential workers heros while not doing anything that would actually help them. Like increasing pay or protections
Ask any patient at a VA hospital. If the US calls you a hero, stop whatever you’re doing and run away. Do not walk. Do not stop to help others. Get out of whatever situation they are calling you a hero for being in. They are doing that as a means of absolving themselves of responsibility towards you.
Americans don’t really do anything as recent times have proven. They just kind of sit there on their phones are their country gets overthrown.
If we could wipe a few trillion dollars out of existence in a few days all the rich would freak the fuck out.
People like musk have so much invested in the market and live off those investments by borrowing against those investments. They pay a fraction of their taxes that way through capital gains being taxed at a lower rate. The 1% have so much invested and all they care about is money!
If we held out long enough someone might just push trump out a window.
People are fucked either way, might as well go out on your own terms. That and its our last option outside of armed revolution.
We can either take a week off from work now or die on a battlefield in Greenland.
There aren’t enough Pinkertons and cops to make everyone go back to work.
Cyrus is the One, man.
Even if there were, I’d refuse.
please make the libs understand because i cant for the life of me
They’re so full of arrogance and hubris to be reasoned with.
someone got through to me, so there is a way, as hard as it might be.
Yeah, let’s take this message and sow division instead! Great work!
You’ll have to define what you mean by sow division. If you’re talking about it from a liberal point of view, one that’s defending the duopoly, they are the ones helping create that division.
what makes you think that?
My strike started a year ago. No longer unemployed. I’m on hiatus and on strike. Work doesn’t even seem worth it anymore.
They’re not mutually exclusive, do both
General strikes are outlawed and illegal under the taft-hartley act. Fight at the polls to overturn it.
Kinda. Mostly. Sympathy strikes are outlawed, but one of the major unions is trying to get all contracts to end on May, 1, 2028. That would allow for a legal “general strike.”
Cancel your amazon and cancel your health insurance. Everyone same time. Then watch the freak out begin.
electoral politics DOES get the job done, just not to the same standard as the popular vote.
The problem is that the people who WANT things to change for some reason, don’t seem to vote.
Never be deceived that the rich will allow you to vote away their wealth.
Lucy Parsons
Not a single one of our rights has ever been won via electoral politics, they have been won with a great deal of violence against the state and capitalism.
violence just happens to be alongside most of the electoral politics, i’m pretty sure we still voted for shit like, womens suffrage, and civil rights. Shit like gay rights as well.
Activism is an important part of politics no doubt, but to say that not voting and killing people will magically make legislation get passed is just fucking mentally deranged.
Women suffrage, civil rights, gay rights, labor rights, all of them had many acts of violence before anything meaningful came of it. Rights are never given, they are fought for with blood, sweat, and tears.
Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical
that’s only part of it, you can’t just start killing people and expect something to change, you’ll get killed or executed by the government instead. Just look at the recent unitedhealth thing.
Violence is the only language the state understands, and unless people speak to them in their language they dont hear a thing. Violence is not just physical, its also mental and economical
they also understand legislation, it’s literally their entire fucking job. If you don’t believe me, go look at the 27th amendment.
Violence isn’t just killing, it’s physical, mental, and economic. The most significant power we hold is economic violence.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Violence
thats uh, an interesting way to define “non violence”
Perhaps you should try some other word like uh, non compliance.
Your own source defines physical, mental and economic as violence.
