What’s great about this, and Stephen Fry is brilliant, is not that he’s absolving Musk, or that he’s criticizing Tesla, but that it is an argument likely leading to Elon Musk protesting,

‘No, my cars are good enough that I can be a Nazi!’

  • comfy@lemmy.ml
    130·
    7 days ago

    Headlines are being headlines, I get it, but Fry was repeating a joke:

    “I heard a very good joke yesterday,” the QI host, 67, told Stig Abell on Times Radio on Thursday.

    “Someone said, ‘Musk is not a Nazi… Nazis made really good cars,’” he went on, before bursting out laughing.

  • rational_lib@lemmy.world
    553·
    6 days ago

    The cybertruck is exactly the sort of thing Nazis would come up with. It’s the King Tiger of trucks - impressive specs and appeals to insecure men, but way the fuck too big and designed for unrealistic situations instead of practical reality.

    • yeehaw@lemmy.ca
      18·
      6 days ago

      It can’t realistically tow heavy loads cause the hitch breaks off, and it can’t travel far with heavy loads. Definitely not the king tiger of trucks.

    • Paradachshund@lemmy.today
      7·
      6 days ago

      I, as of recently, live in a place where I actually see those things driving around (and a lot of other trucks). They look like children’s toys compared to the absolute monster fords and some other trucks (not to mention they really do age like milk from what I’ve seen). Some of these behemoths can’t even fit in a single parking spot, it’s kind of insane. One of those would be more deserving of this title I think (I don’t know cars so I can’t say any specific models I’m afraid)

    • dx1@lemmy.mlEnglish
      4·
      6 days ago

      I think RAMs or similar win in that category by being as actively harmful as possible. And having the huge blindspot where you run over kids without noticing.

    • rottingleaf@lemmy.world
      11·
      6 days ago

      Before King Tiger and Tiger they had a few very good tanks.

      Just when T-34 (which were clearly superior to German tanks once some bugs were ironed out, different class even) production went out of control, Hitler started making more decisions involved in what kind of machines is going to be developed and built.

  • Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    541·
    7 days ago

    Not apologizing and then immediately giving a speech to AfD about not being ashamed of “cultural purity” beg to differ. Either way, him being an actual Nazi is irrelevant. There are 2 options:

    1. He is an actual Nazi and believes in the ideology, which makes him a fucking Nazi. It should be noted that his grandfather was an extremely anti-semitic politician who moved to South Africa because he admired Apartheid…

    2. He did it as a troll. In which case, at a POTUS inauguration he decided to behave like a teenage boy as the richest man in the world and make light of something that saw 6 million Jews slaughtered and remains as a threat to the security of Jews around the world to this day. Which makes him a colossal piece of shit.

        • AWittyUsername@lemmy.world
          172·
          6 days ago

          He said sexual abuse victims should grow up and stop feeling sorry for themselves.

          He jumped on the "I’m a Jew " bandwagon, in order to deflect criticism of Israel’s actions in Gaza. This is after presenting as atheist for all of his public life.

          Anti trans JK Rowling supporter.

          • Victor@lemmy.world
            41·
            6 days ago

            Goddammit. Why is no celebrity available to like anymore? I guess it’s true, we should not idolize anyone. Everyone is a piece of shit in some way or another, and to some level.

            Except Keanu Reeves. He’s literally Jesus Christ. ❤️🔥😭

          • garbagebagel@lemmy.world
            6·
            6 days ago

            To put the video in short: Essentially gets asked if he still supports Stonewall even though they support trans kids and speak out against TERFs (worded much differently) and he says no I don’t support them any more, calling it nonsensical, shameful, and sad.

          • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
            42·
            6 days ago

            See what I enjoy about this comment is all things considered there’s a high likelihood you will live past the age of 60 at which point I hope younger people then call you a piece of shit on the daily simply because of your age. LOL

            • HelixDab2@lemm.ee
              3·
              6 days ago

              The probability is that, as you age, your ability to change you attitudes in order to keep up will slow down to the point where you will seem regressive and problematic to 20yo children when you are 60.

              The era that my parents grew up in would seem awful to most people now, but my parents were unaware that there were problems, and they have a hard time seeing a lot of them now.

            • teslasaur@lemmy.world
              1·
              6 days ago

              I don’t know about you, but that sounds miserable. And what makes you think that you will be excluded?

  • DFX4509B@lemmy.org
    22·
    6 days ago

    If Elon isn’t a full-blown Nazi, he’s at minimum a Nazi sympathizer. His actions at the inauguration proved where his allegiances lie.

  • RangerJosey@lemmy.mlEnglish
    27·
    6 days ago

    I’d imagine Jeremy Clarkson might have said this on old top gear before he outed himself as a massive asshole.

      • Buddahriffic@lemmy.world
        4·
        5 days ago

        He punched a guy in 2015 over available food options, which got him fired from BBC. His popularity didn’t take that much of a hit from this incident despite him clearly being in the wrong (Hammond and May both left BBC with him and they started a new show The Grand Tour, which wasn’t as popular as Top Gear, but was still popular.

        Then, in 2022, he wrote an opinion piece for the Sun about how much he hates Megan Merkle and included a bit where he said she should be paraded naked through the town. Amazon decided to not start any new projects with him after this, though they continued with the plans to wind down The Grand Tour which had already been established.

        He’s got a farming show now, so he wasn’t cancelled over this, despite burning some bridges.

        • Victor@lemmy.world
          2·
          3 days ago

          Well that’s a pretty disgusting thing to say about someone. I don’t know what Merkle did to – in his view – deserve such comments, but I can’t imagine the comments were warranted.

        • Victor@lemmy.world
          3·
          6 days ago

          Then all’s well, I guess. Just like Hitler. Who was he? ANYWAY let’s get some froghurt…

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
      1·
      5 days ago

      I think James May got there quicker. The first episode of his Cars Of The People miniseries explores (in part) the driving idea behind the Beetle and its origin, including its proceeds funding the Nazi war machine.

      • CaptainBasculin@lemmy.ml
        4·
        6 days ago

        Nah, I’m sure Cybertruck was the example of him messing around in a 3d modeling software and then saying to Tesla engineers “make a car out of this”. There’s no other excuse for the lack of thought in its outer design.

        • Jericho_Kane@lemmy.org
          4·
          6 days ago

          I mean design aside, there is no reason to make it this shit, even if it looks bad. It’s just a rug pull but with cars. There is no way in hell you see one of these driving around in 10 years, except some rare cases of garage queens. The car had a pre-order system for fucks sake. The selling point of the car is that: “in an apocalypse, you can just drive over other cars.” Which says a lot about the clientele of that thing.

  • soumerd_retardataire@lemmygrad.ml
    13·
    6 days ago

    One day he’s criticized for saying that Hitler was a communist, the other for apparently assuming his love of nazis.
    There’s an old series of books by Terry Goodkind that i’ve read as a child, named the Sword of Truth, each book has a wizard’s rule, and here’s the first one :

    People are stupid. They believe things mainly because they either want them to be true or fear them to be true.

    I’m not particularly fond of these books nor do i agree with this rule, but if you’re political then you’re judging real political actions, such as enacted laws, like adults do, or you’re eventually discussing assumed theories, but not unfair little excerpts regretted afterwards by the one who did them, and we can hopefully both agree that we should not explain our worldview or vote based on the latter, its ‘just for fun’/‘not serious’.
    At least most journalists know that it’s only about influencing his future decisions, but you don’t if you believe it was ‘a coming out’/‘something to be discussed seriously’.
    That’s just my two cents, thanks for reading my insults towards ~you, and let’s continue not changing.

  • hedhoncho@lemm.eeEnglish
    36·
    6 days ago

    Amazing that during bidens regime all i had to do was date a bdsm guy from austria and get labeled a nazi by even work. I dont know how they found out cause he was half a state away and it was a long distance relationship. I still get called it even with elon prancing about. IDGAF musk is a n*zi. Let those karens on toktok get fired.