• deaf_fish@lemm.ee
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    8 days ago

    At the end, yes, both outcomes are the same unless organization is successful. Why make organizing any harder than it needs to be?

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          8 days ago

          Did you watch the video? The rock that keeps tigers away is like voting that makes organizing easier.

          Politicians react to organized mass movements, rather than elections. You got it backwards.

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            8 days ago

            I did watch the video. I agree that mass movements are what is required for change. I don’t understand, what am I buying?

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              8 days ago

              You’re “buying” that elections make organizing easier. Just like Homer is buying that a rock can keep tigers away.

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                8 days ago

                How would having a more evil leader, one who hypothetically locks down freedom of speech and starts arresting people, make organizing easier?

                Seems like that would make it harder to do.

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                  8 days ago

                  I don’t know how to explain to you that the issues we’re facing are systemic and don’t depend on the “right” individual being a leader.

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                    8 days ago

                    How did we get here? I never said we needed to have a “right” specific individual being a leader.

                    All I’m saying is that I believe that if I have a choice to organize a progressive movement under either 100% Hitler or 90% Hitler. I would choose 90% Hitler. I feel like I’m not alone in that.