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    I actually love email. It’s great that we have a standard and open protocol for sending and receving virtual mail. Without email we would be now probably using some closed-source proprierary and not interoperable solution witch locks you in. I’m glad it didn’t happen.

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      I will fight anyone who disagrees with the fact that email is the best protocol ever invented. It is perfect. Arbitrary text, file attachments, e2ee with gpg. It has zero downsides for most things. It’s just been destroyed by corpos :/

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      This memey post isn’t about Email as a concept, it’s about the state of commercial communication companies and the way we access having email.

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      I as well like email, it just has to be managed. Then you threw in the alternative involved a solution with a witch locking me in, and I’m intrigued to know more.

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      Your privacy is very important to BONTO! Please give us permission to share your data with the following 465 companies

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        Please give us permission to share your data with the following 465 companies

        Those are amateur numbers. No wonder BONTO is getting aquired and restructured. They need to get those privacy invasion numbers up!

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        Please log in to your account to opt out. Privacy settings in your account are unlocked between 1:00 and 1:30 GMT, and are accessed from a PS2 stored in the basement of the county office, behind the leopard.

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        Don’t worry about the data breach. They had already sold your data to everyone out there.

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      In my experience, you find out BONTO! had a security breach via an Ars Technica article published around 4 months after the fact because the data was found on the dark web. Zero correspondence from the company itself except in rare circumstances

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    BONTO! sucked anyhow. BONMO~ is the FOSS replacement that does everything better.

    They’re looking for devs btw, which is why it’s been so long without an update or bug fixes.

    Donate HERE.

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      And if for some godforsaken reason you’re looking for help:

      JOIN OUR DISCORD™ (whaddya mean you don’t wanna?)

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        *joins discord*

        You say “Hey guys, I’m new to bonmo and was wondering why it doesn’t use traditional control-c and control-v for cut and paste? I think BRONTO! used the standard keys?”

        *38 minutes later*

        BONMASTER_420 says “first its called BONMO~ not bonmo and the answer is in the sauce we really dont have time to answer the questions of ever fukwit that joins the discord plus its not are job to explain why bronto did shit different tard fork it if you don’t like it shitbeqd”

        *1hr 12 minutes later*

        BleachAnime2009 says “Again with the ctrl-c/ctrl-v thing? Jesus christ learn how to use the search function would you guys? This has been discussed to death.”

        You say “Sorry, I tried searching but don’t see an answer. I’m not a programmer either so if you could just tell me I’d appreciate it.”

        *You have been kicked*

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      BONMO~'s Kickstarter campaign turned out to be a scam, no refunds for existing investors, sowwy.

      Anyway, now that the only alternative to BONTO! is dead, BONTO! merged with [weirdly popular social media company that you never paid attention to] and BONTO! is offering new subscription plans that give great deals if you pay for three years ahead of time for the low, low price of $450. Also, where will BONTO! be in 3 years? ¯\__(ツ)_/¯

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        I love how almost every societal complaint or struggle can be traced back to the idea that there are a small number of people trying to take the money from a large number of other people for as unfair of an exchange as physically possible.

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    “BONTO is selling your personal info to Google! Click this non-working link to opt out!”

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    Meanwhile:

    No, I don’t like e-mails, they’re all spam, I only have an account to register other accounts. Why can’t we continue our chat here on Natziapp (formerly known as Chatter)? Yes, I know, it’s full of nazis, and stuff, but if we convince him hard enough, he could change for the better.

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    Email has a place. I always let my teams know that text, phone call, or IM / DM aren’t professional ways to communicate.

    The reason being is that it isn’t externally travelable - you can’t send it to the next recipient in a format that is accepted by most people.

    Also I hate needing to check five or seven fucking messaging apps to get all of the info consolidated. Send a goddamned email with everything once the thought is finished.

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      Email is also fantastically based for “getting it in writing” when you’re getting abused / exploited at work.

      Printing or downloading emails as evidence? Easy peasy.

      Extracting message chains from some ridiculously long Slack/Discord/WhatsApp/whatever proprietary messenger app? Pulling teeth. Usually involves a ton of screenshotting.

      When I worked at a public library I used to have people screenshotting ridiculously long Facebook messenger chains because their lawyer demanded it all be printed out…and sometimes they’d demand the printouts faxed.

      (Usually divorce cases. Sad.)

      Absolute insanity.

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      What sort of team setting are you in that your whole team doesn’t have a single IM messaging platform that everyone in your company has?

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      Why do you have “5 or 7” apps? Being able to communicate externally, with consistency, is the reason for email, that’s it. If anyone sends me an email with a question or comment that isn’t hyper specific I immediately tell them to go post in a relevant slack channel so others can search for the question/comment in the future.

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    Then 3 years later

    Brooks, Herman and Anderson Law firm - Bonto data privacy class action lawsuit

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      <unwarranted rage No way, BONTO! sucked. You couldn’t even Slorp your entire friends list anymore, and they added all of those BONTOgrams for no reason. We disagree on a topic, so I despise you now and your entire genetic line. </rage

      But you should really try NeWSlarP, a FLOSS fork of Slorp by the original developer that brings back both SlorpTokens and Schlarpmänner!

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        <unwarranted rage No way…

        … </rage

        This is the wildest syntax I’ve ever seen! At first, I thought it was unparsable nonsense. Then I realized that your tags are capital-letter-terminated. Is this from a language I don’t know or have you unwittingly cooked up a piece of a cursed programming language? If the latter, I propose Slorp as its name.

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          Closing > for the tag is left as an exercise for the reader.
          unwarranted is a property of the rage tag (the properties are declared before the tag name)

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          The real answer is that when I closed the tags, they didn’t show up in the comment. So I left them open, because it looked utterly ridiculous. But I like your interpretation way better!

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        You jest but…

        img

        Enshittification never sleeps, stealing all ideas that it can possibly get away with!

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      As a top 1% graaaaj user, I always felt bad for you guys. You should migrate to graaaaj, we have asparagus!

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    BONTO! will be deleting your data soon

    Log into BONTO! to save your data

    BONTO! will be deleting your data soon

    BONTO! will be deleting your data soon

    BONTO! has archived your data

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    Subject: your billing statement is now available

    Body: Log on to our website because we couldn’t possibly JUST FUCKING TELL YOU HOW MUCH ELECTRICITY OR WHATEVER YOU USED THIS MONTH DIRECTLY IN THE E-MAIL; no, we’ve got to play fucking games and make you do extra work and stop you from automatically having a record of your shit without having to deliberately log on to the platform we control and download them individually with 30 seconds worth of clicking between each one.

    WTF is even the point of the email if there’s NO USEFUL INFORMATION IN IT?!

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      It’s annoying, but from a data security point of view it makes sense, personal information like that is more secure behind the login on their website than in an e-mail in plain text.

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        When it’s billing data I can see it, but if it’s a notification that someone sent you a message, you know there’s no reason they can’t include the message text. They just want your engagement (looking at you, LinkedIn).

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          No, you’re absolutely right. Hiding a message behind a login is essentially linkedin style click baiting.

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        That should be my choice, not theirs. I should at least be able to opt into having useful information directly in the email!

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          I agree with you, but it’s easier for those companies to just do one option, rather than offer user/customer choices which would create additional effort both technical on the backend and legally.

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      I’m currently locked out of my electricity provider’s payment site. They kept asking me if my name was on the account when I logged in. I would click yes and then it’d ask for a bunch more information. I managed to get around it and get to bill pay. Eventually they locked me out. Now they want me to call them so they can get more data out of me to sell to data brokers, and on principle, I’m not about that, so I just pay by phone like a boomer with my paper bill now.

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      Of course not, can’t let the consumers keep an easy paper trail of their bills. That would mean we would be caught on mischarges!

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      But the website will only show how much you used, if you want to see how much that costs, you have to use our app, which for some reason requires location access, storage access and call access…

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      Oh, not the total owed, but the actual usage graphs. Yeah I only get an annual email containing a recap pretty much at years end for a few services. Otherwise it’s off to the shitty website.

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        Otherwise it’s off to the shitty website.

        I’ve been promised that AI will fix all the shitty websites, soon.

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      Information channels arent for communication.

      They’re for advertising, provocation, and corporate shibboleths of consent.

      Maybe get on board with the 20th century, grandma.