If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn’t.
I can’t imagine thinking about “serving people” when majority of them turned out to be hateful idiots that frankly deserve getting their faces eaten by a leopard. Let her catch a break maybe?
Usual: If you voted 3rd party or didn’t vote, you signed off on our current reality.
But you’re not wrong, and I have plenty to disagree with AOC about, but they’re all conversations for a better time; done and done.
Nah, 3rd party voters at least voted. This solely lies on the folks who didn’t vote.
No.
Is this wise? As an outside observer I had the impression that Harris lost in part because of systematic, subtle and overt racism and sexism. All this applies to AOC, too. Do the Democrats want to lose? Don’t they have some sort of JFK look-alike, people actually want to vote? It’s not as if appearance wasn’t way more important in the US than things like the actual political agenda.
She lost bcs she was a racist heartless tone-deaf ghoul
Yeah okay pack it in boys, we’re screwed lol.
Why even bother to run a primary at this point? Just let the DNC select their candidate so we can skip out on the 6 months of sham and shilling.
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Also told all yall we need progressives to split from DNC and form a fresh 3rd party bruh.
Also told all yall we need progressives to split from DNC and form a fresh 3rd party bruh.
This is a recipe to ensure Republicans fully sweep every election and progressives are ignored even more than they already are. American politics are so incredibly broken, but isolating yourself by breaking off into a party that has 0 chance of ever winning anything isn’t going to fix anything.
Well if the DNC doesn’t want to win and get Trump out, they don’t have to run a candidate. If they want to split the vote from an engaged voter base wanting something new to kick out the fascist, that’s on them.
What shock? AOC is the only one in that party with clear positioning
It’s why suddenly the “How DARE Sanders allegedly say that Warren might have a hard time because she’s a woman” wing of the party is now like “Women can’t win” as soon as a progressive woman is seizing the moment.
Anything a progressive says is evil and must be deplatformed. Anything a Republican thinks must be platformed and normalized.
Where the fuck has Harris been this whole time? How has she remained relevant? WTF is wrong with the DNC (gestures wildly at all their dumb shit)?
I mean, she was VP just a few months ago.
And she seems to have done fucking nothing since then to help the american people. No call to the streets, no speeches at the protests, nothing.
Yep, she and Biden just disappeared after conceding. They bowed out so hard they ended up in hiding
I don’t know why they’re surfacing this week, but they can fuck back to the rock they crawled out from under
They’ve gone into hiding so that way when 2028 rolls around they can pretend they were fighting the entire time, and how this time they need to tip the scales in running a candidate who’s anti abortion and willing to deport as many brown people to sway the mythical non-Trump republicans.
Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries
So tell me why? Explain it like I’m a 6 yo. What exactly is the appeal of AOC? Someone who once aligned herself with two antisemites? She’s not a Senator, she’s a representative for New York State. Does she have the same appeal as David Hogg? Strike me down and call me a conservatard (I’ve never ever voted Republican) but AOC is a gaffe machine, but somehow it’s on purpose? Can we talk about Ilhan Omar and Rashid Talib? How the fuck did they ever become Representatives for Minnesota and Detroit…yeah I know it’s been a minute, but this is the Democratic Party…how did Leftist get so confused that they felt the need to support right wing religious nuts? You know what I talking about right? You could take your average everyday Muslim and a white supremacist and ask them both how they feel about women/jewish people/gay people and you’d get the same answer. Did AOC support the striking train workers in 2022? The union for the rail workers never really got the deal they wanted. What does AOC stand for exactly? Just the typical Gen Z talking points? “We gotta support drag queens in libraries!” Yeah, I’m an old fuddy duddy who thinks that identity politics is a losing battle, maybe if everyone can get under the umbrella of the idea that billionaires are working to ruin this country? Maybe we can talk about wealth inequality and how no one who is working class can afford anything? Housing prices, rent, basic living income and basic standards for ALL human beings? I love Bernie Sanders, god bless him, but AOC and Bernie spreading whatever message they are is falling on deaf ears, the ears of middle America. I’ll take my beating now
Yeah, I’m an old fuddy duddy who thinks that identity politics is a losing battle, maybe if everyone can get under the umbrella of the idea that billionaires are working to ruin this country?
If that’s how you feel, you’re supporting the wrong people. It was centrists who turned to identity politics to hide their lack of an economic platform. Remember when Hillary said breaking up the big banks won’t end racism? Remember when the new DNC chair said they would still take money from good billionaires? If you want Democrats to focus on the billionaires ruining our country, AOC’s your best bet.
I love Bernie Sanders, god bless him, but AOC and Bernie spreading whatever message they are is falling on deaf ears, the ears of middle America.
10K showed up for them in Michigan. 12.5K people showed up for them in Idaho. 30k showed up for them in a Trump district in Montana. Doesn’t seem like it’s falling in deaf ears, but maybe your right, and the Democrats should just not try to win any states in the middle of the country. I’m sure that’s a great strategy.
What does AOC stand for exactly? Just the typical Gen Z talking points? “We gotta support drag queens in libraries!”
You could take your average everyday Muslim and a white supremacist and ask them both how they feel about women/jewish people/gay people and you’d get the same answer.
Get fucked, bigot.
Yep, this is the kind of ad hominem attack I would expect. You think I support Hillary Clinton? What Do you think that Centrism is about exactly? Is your righteous anger going to change the world? You’re adorable
“Here’s a long detailed rebuttal to your badly informed opinion.”
“Ad hominem!”
Reddit and its consequences was a mistake.
Defeatists ignoring the number of people attending her rallies recently.
“We can’t run a woman, America doesn’t want one as president!”
“Here’s AOC having some of the biggest rallies in recorded American history, showing people are wanting to follow her lead.”
“…Well she’s also brown, so clearly no one wants to follow her for that too.”
I wonder why they don’t want AOC to run as a popular front runner, but have Harris have a second chance at losing again…
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Stop with this shit. It’s 2025. This is stupid.
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Women can’t be president in America. We have a shitty culture that prevents that from happening. We keep trying, we keep failing. If you want to win, find another candidate with a dick. That’s a requirement in America. Not saying I like it. Just saying that’s reality.
If that was the case Hilary would have not won the popular vote
Actually this is a good chance to prove things. Most would rather vote for a woman than Trump right now. This could be a perfect moment for a woman to get in power and kick some ass.
“People need to vote Democrat to keep the country from further imploding, so we’re gonna make the candidate a woman. That way they’ll HAVE to vote for a woman and we can check that off our list!”
this is a losing strategy, you’re even considering doing it with the same loser from 2024. We lost both 2016 and 2024 by doing this exact same thing. What are you going to tell me next, that the candidate should be Jill Stein?
At least AOC is an actual good candidate, but again: woman. You’ll lose.
We should just have two women run for president and force the issue!
And tragically, that’s how America elected a third party candidate.
Fuck. Probably true.
Hillary needs to run in 2028. It is Hillary her turn. Again. This has nothing to do with them being horrible candidates. Only misogyny is responsible.
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As much as I love her, this country has shown time and time again it is unwilling to elect a woman president. It sucks, and I don’t like it, but the Dems need to run a dude.
Edit: good job hivemind, proving you’re still alive and strong considering there’s a top comment saying the exact same thing.
If those are our two front runners we are fucked.
Then who would you suggest, if not AOC?
Truthfully I don’t know if the Democrats have anyone that can win back the American people. Newsome is hated by half his own state and all the other states. Buttigieg maybe? Idk.
We really need another Obama or Bill Clinton. Someone charasmatic and well spoken. We just don’t have anyone young or charasmatic in that way that I can think of.
AOC would be great.
She’s hit and miss for me. When she’s calling people out on their bullshit regardless of party affiliation I am a fan. When she’s marching along with the ancient Democrats and being performative I can’t stand that shit.
I do not think she would do significantly better than Harris did. I think she would be an improvement, but idk if that’s gonna be enough.
