• fckreddit@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    This opinion piece is shit and it is pathetically trying to bring the term “AI Vegan” in vogue. This article adds nothing else to the conversation except regurgitating old shit.

  • gointhefridge@lemmy.zip
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    2 months ago

    I don’t use “AI” cause chat bots are stupid. AI has been fine for decades, the cars in Gran Turismo had sufficient AI to drive around the track. This modern definition is just horse shit for another attempt at Silicon Valley to claim they are superior than every other industry. Sam Altman is a fraud and modern “AI” gobeldyguk.

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    2 months ago

    The ethical and environmental reasons are secondary to the fact that LLMs are figurative shit and the bubble will burst in a year or so and anyone who comes to rely on ChatGPT to do their thinking for them is going to be shit out of luck.

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    2 months ago

    AI vegans? I’m very much against AI but I’m not a vegan. I wonder if vegans like the term vegan used for this. I think I would be annoyed if I was one too

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          2 months ago

          There’s literally dozens of us!

          I feel like the overlap of soulslike enjoyers and vegans here is rather high considering that Lemmy is pretty left-leaning overall and soulslikes are quite popular

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      This sounds like a marketing attempt to align us modern Luddites with an already established “out group” to build a public perception against abstaining from planet killing slop generators.

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        Corporate news and media, especially in cases like this, has always been a tool to turn the uninformed public against educated dissenters. They targeted hippies in the 70s for speaking out about the military and prison industrial complexes and this is more of the same. It’s a cheap attack that always works.

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    As someone who practices both of these concerns, I really don’t understand the name.

    And I must add that as a veteran of the other movement, when you say “I am” you are creating a distinguishable sense of otherness in relation to others. I also practice “Zero Waste” but I don’t call myself a “Zero Waster” (which is also never zero) or announce myself as an “Environmentalist” either.

    These self ascribed descriptors are always a mistake. Yes, I do believe that everyone should share these concerns to the best of their abilities and what their setting and context allows, but in the end there is nothing different about me or anyone else who shares these same concerns.

    As someone who disapproves of how A.I. is being built and used, and that its cost from an environmental concern to a societal concern, has the hazards far outweighing the benefits in both, there’s still no need to call us here anything for having that concern, is there?

    But I’m going to share a piece of wisdom that I’ve gotten from practicing the other ethical concerns.

    “Convenience” is what is gonna destroy the whole world.

    And I’ve been saying this for almost two decades now. Most people will always choose convenience regardless of the consequences.

    This is not gonna be any different.

    The most successful way we can check this new mess is by attacking with legislation and regulations that are currently almost nowhere to be seen.

    Most will never care much to consider the consequences of their decisions or actions. We don’t need a descriptor for that either. Is just what it is.

    The scariest part of A.I. is that it consumes the enormous amounts of energy it does and enormous quantities of water we don’t have, only to optimize the efficency and rate in how all other hazards occur, as production and consumption of everything is increased in a blink.

    And from a meta-space perspective it is horrifying to ponder what is to come because of it.

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      2 months ago

      “Convenience” is what is gonna destroy the whole world.

      This very thought ran through my head not 48 hours ago. I’m a little creeped out. 😬

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        Hahaha

        Not at all. It makes me feel less alone when that happens.

        But, yeah, two decades of environmental and Animal Rights activism have thought me that my arguments can never compete with convenience.

        My conversations regarding A.I. go the same way.

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    Look at those weird hairshirters abstaining from the basics of modern life like vibe coding, bot art and the smooth sounds of The Velvet Sundown. I mean, what a bunch of freaky cultists, right?

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    The Guardian is supposedly “left” and yet they’re following the scripts handed down by right wing extremist techbrodudes.

    It’s almost as if its “leftism” is like most “leftism” in the anglosphere: complete and utter performative bullshit.

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    AI is also just… Trash.

    It can’t do my dishes. It can’t vacuum the apartment. It can’t do my laundry. You can’t ask it information because it’ll just be wrong 20% of the time. It can’t automate all the annoying things in my life that get in the way of what I love doing:

    Art.

    But that’s the one thing that it’s designed to do.