@geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml banned me from !ManufacturingConsent@lemmy.ml (permanently!) and removed my comment from the post, because I dared to note that there are protests in Iran and shared a link to a crimethinc article with voices from within Iran. They call it “imperialist propaganda” if leftist voices from within Iran are distributed.

My comment:

I get it that the western media narrative is incredibly one-sided, focused on ideological bogeymen and focused on getting the monarch back in power. But I’d like to point out that there is in fact quite massive repression going on against the protestors. Leftist orgs in Iran need international solidarity now.

Their “reasoning”:

reason: Ignoring the post to spam imperialist propaganda

I don’t think that person can be reasoned with if they call crimethinc imperialist propaganda, so I’m not getting my hopes up for them lifting the ban.

I also think that they might be a bit butthurt, because I called out their zionistic worldview (i.e.: that judaism equates zionism) a few days ago.

    • WereHacker@lemmy.ml
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      If you want to defeat secterism you need to open a dialogue. If you start telling yourself and others you or your faction are the real leftists. You too are a campist.

      I know we all wear our feelings on the outside ATM, but the makes it even more important to try talking.

      • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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        Kind of hard to have a dialog on your instance because of shit like what this post is highlighting.

        • AzuranAurora@piefed.ca
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          Dialogue also tends to get you banned from .ml if the admins don’t like it, even if mods like Geneva don’t ban you first.

          • Deceptichum@quokk.au
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            The admins straight up ban you from communities you’ve never posted in if they don’t like your brand of leftism. They only want to hear the opinions of those who confirm their views.

            • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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              A db0 member was banned from Hexbear for no reason.

              The mod log didn’t say anything and the mod from Hexbear who showed up on their .ml alt said it was for something but also didn’t give links, and changed the reason why to “you always deserved it”.

              Literally live Big Brother levels of editing the narrative.

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                Well I left .world because they defederated from the socialist instances. That was too much blanket censorship for me.

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          True, however this isn’t that instance. And ideally shouldn’t be like it regardless of how successful over all it is in reality. 🫤

          There are plenty there I have no good will for. And it’s pretty mutual so I’m okay with that. But there are a number of prominent ones on .world …and even here. I may be reflexively wary of posters from the .ml because of the way the instances being run selects for a type. But users aren’t their instance. It’s something I’ve gotta keep my head on straight with too. Let the individuals speak for themselves. Then form an opinion. Otherwise we end up like those we don’t like. And that does no one any good.

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        Then maybe you need to start by telling your instance admins to stop banning anybody they disagree with…

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        Opens dialogue

        Immediately banned

        “You need to open a dialogue”

        … ah, yes, mhm, yep.

        This is … you’re doing parody, right?

        … right, this a bit, right?

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        When they ban anytime you do help they disagree with, they ban you.

        You question it, they ban you.

        How are you meant to do that when they ban you consistently for this? Clearly they don’t want it.