Right, because they pull their own triggers, etc., etc…
Edit: To clarify to make absolutely certain you can’t possibly think I’m agreeing with you, I’m not complaining about Grok, although chatbot “AI” are stupid fucking tools for tools, I’m comlaining about the PREDATORS who use chatbots to do sexual deviancy shit.
Not unlike the ammosexuals/ICE agents who fantasize about using their ARs to kill women.
I guess I misinterpreted your comment. I thought you were trying to imply that all of the responsibility rested on the badly-behaving users and that the makers of Grok had no responsibility to prevent sexual harassment and CSAM on their platform.
Another weirdo who thinks “and that’s bad too” is a statement of absolution for predators and those who abet them.
Is that because of No Child Left Behind?
Has Lemmy adopted the “um aksuually” guy Reddit standard for writing analysis and media literacy?
No, person of dubious ability to comprehend what you read, this is NOT what I am saying, this is what you want to believe that I am saying. For some bizarre ass reason.
White knighting? Red-pill accusations misdirect?
Please, feel free to explain your logic and thoughts on this.
And what makes you think “and that’s bad too” doesn’t? Seriously. Explain your work.
Was there not enough histrionics or wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth for you?
So explain your logic and thoughts about why you think EVERY FUCKING RESPONSE needs to cater to your whims?
The entire fucking planet knows that Nazi trillionaires selling a service that can be used for child porn, at least be accurate, is BAD. Are you serious right now?
DO you hang around so many Nazi pedos that this needs to be constantly reiterated lest you forget?
Any dickless loser seeking out the material is a problem.
The dude who institutionalized illegal porn is a worldwide threat to children. We are talking orders of magnitude more dangerous to individuals and to society.
That the combination of words that I used to describe shouldn’t even be allowed to exist and will likely be a liner notes in any surviving history.
If we are outraged enough to admonish anyone involved it should be the child porn profiteer, not relegating his moral failings under the broad category of “oh, yea, that’s bad, too.”
Any dickless loser seeking out the material is a problem.
Which is why I said as much in my very first response in this thread.
The dude who institutionalized illegal porn is a worldwide threat to children. We are talking orders of magnitude more dangerous to individuals and to society.
And what makes you think I don’t/didn’t believe this was true? Explain using full sentences, please.
I don’t disagree. But my point is that, if creepy, predatory men are so ubiquitous, so shameless, and such a known factor (which anyone with half a brain should agree they are) then isn’t the fastest and most efficient way to minimize harm removing the tools of abuse from the hands of the abusers?
So this is because I didn’t paint with a broad brush and create a plan of action or are we tarring and feathering ANYONE associated with AI now (which I’m totally on board with, btw, just not something I bother writing in every statement I made)?
The most efficient and effective way to minimize hard, in this case, would be chemical castration of all such abusers everywhere. Anything less is just cosplaying justice.
Should I castigate you for NOT making that statement?
Does that make you a horrible person who supports sex offenders? Don’t you feel guilty for NOT including that in EVERY reply or post you make?
See how weird that is?
I find it so odd that because I made a statement about the predatory men who fucking use AI to do this you weirdos think this means that doesn’t include Musk and his team who aid and abet them.
Like it’s WEIRD that some of you jumped to that conclusion. It’s not just you. I’ve been posting on the internet since the mid 90s and late stage Reddit was the first time I encountered that kind of thing and I’m not sure where it came from. Maybe it was always there and I just never encountered it until then.
But DAMN it is WEIRD.
I mena, there’s writing analysis and media literacy, and then there’s whatever this wild speculation shit is.
The most efficient and effective way to minimize hard, in this case, would be chemical castration of all such abusers everywhere. Anything less is just cosplaying justice.
Those drugs are actually of dubious utility unless you are just seeking to cause medical harm to people.
And it has absolutely no bearing on AI. No amount of chemicals will stop grok, and from what I hear Elon’s genitals may already be mangled and useless.
It is a program. You stop the program at the source. And you do that by going after to do two authorize the program.
It really isn’t that hard. We are discussing the world getting flooded with dangerous and illegal images and we should hold the man who actually did it in a great deal of contempt.
And chemical castration (or any other form) is about the least effective way of dealing with it. It is brutal and ugly for no reason.
One of my life’s inspirations was chemically castrated. It is a horrible thing to have to go through.
Guns don’t kill people, etc etc…
Right, because they pull their own triggers, etc., etc…
Edit: To clarify to make absolutely certain you can’t possibly think I’m agreeing with you, I’m not complaining about Grok, although chatbot “AI” are stupid fucking tools for tools, I’m comlaining about the PREDATORS who use chatbots to do sexual deviancy shit. Not unlike the ammosexuals/ICE agents who fantasize about using their ARs to kill women.
I guess I misinterpreted your comment. I thought you were trying to imply that all of the responsibility rested on the badly-behaving users and that the makers of Grok had no responsibility to prevent sexual harassment and CSAM on their platform.
That is exactly what they are saying.
Another weirdo who thinks “and that’s bad too” is a statement of absolution for predators and those who abet them.
Is that because of No Child Left Behind?
Has Lemmy adopted the “um aksuually” guy Reddit standard for writing analysis and media literacy?
No, person of dubious ability to comprehend what you read, this is NOT what I am saying, this is what you want to believe that I am saying. For some bizarre ass reason.
White knighting? Red-pill accusations misdirect?
Please, feel free to explain your logic and thoughts on this.
I am genuinely curious.
Nope. Just think that we should all recognize the root evil here is the Nazi billionaire that is selling a child porn subscription service.
You know. Because Nazi billionaires selling child porn subscription services is a real actual terrible thing.
And what makes you think “and that’s bad too” doesn’t? Seriously. Explain your work.
Was there not enough histrionics or wringing of hands and gnashing of teeth for you?
So explain your logic and thoughts about why you think EVERY FUCKING RESPONSE needs to cater to your whims?
The entire fucking planet knows that Nazi trillionaires selling a service that can be used for child porn, at least be accurate, is BAD. Are you serious right now?
DO you hang around so many Nazi pedos that this needs to be constantly reiterated lest you forget?
Holy moly.
Any dickless loser seeking out the material is a problem.
The dude who institutionalized illegal porn is a worldwide threat to children. We are talking orders of magnitude more dangerous to individuals and to society.
That the combination of words that I used to describe shouldn’t even be allowed to exist and will likely be a liner notes in any surviving history.
If we are outraged enough to admonish anyone involved it should be the child porn profiteer, not relegating his moral failings under the broad category of “oh, yea, that’s bad, too.”
Which is why I said as much in my very first response in this thread.
And what makes you think I don’t/didn’t believe this was true? Explain using full sentences, please.
Thanks.
The makers of Grok are responsible for all of its sins, yes.
But mostly I was referring to the men who use software like this for those purposes.
But this is nothing new. I’m old enough that I predate even using Photoshop for things like this.
No, the problem is always perverted men.
And for the incels, no, women don’t do shit like that.
I don’t disagree. But my point is that, if creepy, predatory men are so ubiquitous, so shameless, and such a known factor (which anyone with half a brain should agree they are) then isn’t the fastest and most efficient way to minimize harm removing the tools of abuse from the hands of the abusers?
Sigh.
So this is because I didn’t paint with a broad brush and create a plan of action or are we tarring and feathering ANYONE associated with AI now (which I’m totally on board with, btw, just not something I bother writing in every statement I made)?
The most efficient and effective way to minimize hard, in this case, would be chemical castration of all such abusers everywhere. Anything less is just cosplaying justice.
Should I castigate you for NOT making that statement? Does that make you a horrible person who supports sex offenders? Don’t you feel guilty for NOT including that in EVERY reply or post you make?
See how weird that is?
I find it so odd that because I made a statement about the predatory men who fucking use AI to do this you weirdos think this means that doesn’t include Musk and his team who aid and abet them.
Like it’s WEIRD that some of you jumped to that conclusion. It’s not just you. I’ve been posting on the internet since the mid 90s and late stage Reddit was the first time I encountered that kind of thing and I’m not sure where it came from. Maybe it was always there and I just never encountered it until then.
But DAMN it is WEIRD.
I mena, there’s writing analysis and media literacy, and then there’s whatever this wild speculation shit is.
Do better man.
Those drugs are actually of dubious utility unless you are just seeking to cause medical harm to people.
And it has absolutely no bearing on AI. No amount of chemicals will stop grok, and from what I hear Elon’s genitals may already be mangled and useless.
You stop this sort of thing at the source.
Chemical, mechanical, whatever gets you even close to comprehending what I write.
So you’re saying you want to just let these people roam the streets free to molest any little girl they find? Weird.
Good lord, I’m trying, but you can’t seem to get it.
It is a program. You stop the program at the source. And you do that by going after to do two authorize the program.
It really isn’t that hard. We are discussing the world getting flooded with dangerous and illegal images and we should hold the man who actually did it in a great deal of contempt.
And chemical castration (or any other form) is about the least effective way of dealing with it. It is brutal and ugly for no reason.
One of my life’s inspirations was chemically castrated. It is a horrible thing to have to go through.