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- ukraine@lemmy.ml
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“Just give us the fortress belt, which is your one major defensive fortification, and in exchange you get <mumble mumble>. Ain’t that a steal?”
“Pinky promise just surrender those Donbas fortifications making your country ridiculously easy to roll over, and then we would definitely go die to defend the rest of your country after refusing to do it for 5 years. Trust me”
Just fuck off with this kind of ‘deals’, please.
After a pinky promise to defend Ukraine in exchange for removal of nuclear weapons back in 1994.
lol, as an American, why the fuck would you take the US’s advice here while Trump is actively trying to sabotage NATO itself?
The Trump admin is literally the dumbest administration in American history.
Can you imagine how stupid someone must be to vote for that administration?
stupidracistAnd yes - extremely racist is the answer and about 1/3 of muricas dumbest hamberder lovers fit the bill.
I think he will at least listen to all their ideas, no matter how bad, because they’re still helping with other things. The US leadership is kinda toxic, but he will try to keep the help flowing for as long as reasonably possible.
But the bestest in Ruzzian history!
the dumbest administration in history
The dumbest thus far…
Several of the last GOP presidencies have had that honor, including last Trump, Dubya, and even Bush sr.
Oooor hear me out. Fuck the us and russia
As a USian, I approve this message.
As a Dane I approve this US message.
(Seriously though, it’s like we can’t have an opinion of our own unless the US gov already spewed it out. Hopefully we can have independent thought soon thanks to Trump)
The first day Ukraine enters NATO russia will blow something up in Ukraine just to test it.
Don’t listen to the US. They’re psychopathic and wrong.
I hope he told those Russian assets to fuck off.
OR he could just kick Jared in the nuts and moonwalk out.
Personally, that seems way more likely to get Ukraine into NATO.
Zelenskyy: I offer NATO to join Ukraine 😎
I say give them nukes. Russia agreed on the borders in return for them giving them up. Give them back, then see how negotiations progress.
Proving the Americans are well and truly clueless about what Putin actually wants.
They aren’t clueless, the Trump clan is in on it and filling their pockets. Putin has acknowledged that he might sell LukOil assets outside of Russia to people associated with Trump at a deep discount. We all know what is expected from him for that.
Edit: wanted to add: Ukraine will never agree to this. They have held out 4 1/2 years, and they will continue to do so, especially if they know that Trump will be pretty occupied at home in 2 months.
Proving the Trump Administration is well and truly clueless about what Ukraine actually wants.
fixed that for you.
Americans know what Putin wants. We also know what Ukraine wants.
but do Putin and Trump see why kids love cinnamon toast crunch?
Deal with EU on this and get putin’s clown out of it.
I can see how that would be a sensible argument for this because you can’t really join NATO (et al) while being in a war…
But that requires reading in a good faith interpretation, which I don’t believe the administration has earned… quite the opposite in fact.
I want that offer in writing. As well as the agreement of all other NATO states to support Ukraine joining.
Writing or not, I don’t think it’s easily doable in an accelerated enough timescale, even if everyone had the political will. So it’s a no.
