• ElementalPhoenix@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    I think for the past couple of decades windows and mac have had similar levels of complexity for the average user. Most people dont do anything more than going through an install wizard

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      But most Linux Distributions also have a Install-Wizard and even GUIs for installing software…

      I would even say installing a normal program on Ubuntu via the Softwaremanager is easier than installing a normal Windows Executable since Windows adds the extra Steps of having to search and download it and afterwards to read the software terms and mark the checkboxes

      The only more complex step with Linux is downloading the ISO and booting from it

      -> So just the Distribution of the initial OS is easier with Windows and macOS for Desktop, for Mobile we anyway won as Linux-Community with having Android on most phones

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    15 hours ago

    Since when did this become an autistic trait? I joined the school computer club when I was 14. It started that year with a single IBM PC. We did not load Linux because it didn’t exist for another decade otherwise I’m sure we would have. I have to believe that kind of curiosity and learning still exists without one needing to be autistic. Then again, under current diagnostics for autism, we might all have been on the spectrum since we were all geeks on some level.

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        but “exclusion” is, lol

        ps autists will not skew the results, there are vastly more normal kids than autists, and even then only a subset of autists are into IT, making the results skew smaller. i guess you could call it cherry-picking, cuz youre picking from what is supposed to be a random set of people

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          I dont think you meant normal in a disparaging way towards autistic people, but I think the more appropriate word would be neurotypical

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    21 hours ago

    Best use of a Mac is to sell it and buy 2 computers to put Linux on.
    To fix Windows problems, reboot (and pray)
    To fix Linux problems, Be root.

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      57 minutes ago

      Tbf rebooting fixes Linux problems too, though usually after paru -Syu.

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      20 hours ago

      I had a job developing software for datacenter machines’ hardware and software health. And the most common automatic repair that we had was escalating 1. reboot; 2. reinstall OS; 3. check hardware. I know it’s different but it was fun to see it “first-hand”.

      And also, “to create Linux problems, be root” works as well.

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      18 hours ago

      Macs can actually be really good linux computers. It’s not always straightforward, but I’ve heard good things once it’s installed.

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        17 hours ago

        Anything running Linux can be good of course- just not going to easily convince me that paying double (or more) is rational.

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          I agree with you but you don’t pay double when you buy an old “obsolete” Mac and install Linux on it. Granted, my computer needs are very basic but my 13 yr old Mac is running better than ever after I got rid of MacOs.

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          15 hours ago

          Macbooks aren’t really always overpriced anymore. Macbook neo is among the best value at its price range and m5 Mac air is roughly comparable with other of its tier.

          Not sure if either can run Linux yet tho

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            14 hours ago

            MacBook supported for 7 years and then no more updates vs 10+ years of support on average.

            I guess if you dont mind the forced obsolescence and ewaste, maybe?

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              14 hours ago

              Well yeah that’s a huge issue infecting the vast majority of the arms computing space which sucks a lot but not a uniquely apple issue. Windows seems to be heading in the same direction such as with the Microsoft surface laptops which also have a 6 year end of life and to a lesser extent most laptops have about 6 year of driver support.

              This can be fixed in most laptops by switching to Linux but the issue is still there.

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      20 hours ago

      Hey, if it’s an Intel Mac they run Linux great. I’m using a 2011 iMac running Linux Mint going on two and half years and haven’t had any issues!

      (I know that more recent Macs have Asahi Linux, but I’ve not used it and cannot speak to it)

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    17 hours ago

    I remember this meme from when the Berlin Wall fell and everyone in the DDR got access to Ubuntu.

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    17 hours ago

    Why would it skew results? It’s a study of correlation, not causation.

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      Because it would add one more variable. “Skew” isn’t really the right word though. It could affect the results in unpredictable ways, discoverable by comparing a separate study done with only autistic kids.

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    The first 3 computers I ever touched were an Apple II, Apple II e, and a Powemac.

    Then I spent a decade in the Windows wilderness. Back and forth… Now safely home to Linux.

    Maybe not a good question by itself.

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      The question really does need to be separated out by era. Are we talking Mac System 7 vs Windows 3.1, Mac OS 9 vs Windows 98, early OS X vs Windows XP, Intel Macs versus Windows 7, ARM Macs vs Windows 10, etc.? Each generation had a different user paradigm, and people who were good with one versus another might mean different things than other generations.

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      That was definitely back before Apple went crazy with their whole closed ecosystem. Apple II feels a lot more like linux these days considering the amount of documentation available about the hardware. And parts aren’t locked down with serial numbers like in the iPhone…

      I had a lot of fun as a kid messing with an Apple IIgs. One of the games I had was “Thexder”, and you can probably guess where I got my username.

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    I wasn’t autistic, I was poor and switching to Linux made old hand-me-down computers work like new. It also frustrated me a lot, but that’s part of the game.

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          14 hours ago

          Ask them to write a file path, they’ll put the slashes the wrong way.

          That should disqualify them from any further tech related discussion.