• HalfSalesman@lemmy.world
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    Dumb only if you are jumping to conclusions about how unattractive you are. (Likely)

    Smart if you somehow have empirical data (not just vibes) demonstrating your innate and unavoidable unattractiveness AND find horniness -> masturbation a net negative experience. (sad but understandable)

    EDIT: Though also consider prostitutes, VR porn, or once they become available, convincing sex robots.

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      not getting laid isn’t a problem

      just like not having a ps5 isn’t a problem.

      it’s just not getting what you want.

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        Seriously. Virgins think there’s something magical about the first time, and that everything will change afterward. The only thing that might change is their attitude. There’s nothing stopping them from doing that right now.

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          i mean, there is a shitload of social shame boiled into not having sex. it’s not about the sex so much as thinking if they bone the shame will go away.

          as a dude, the #1 insult most anyone goes to is ‘you can’t get laid’, or ‘you are gay’ if you reject a woman. as if getting laid all the time is something all dudes must aspire to and they are sexually flawed if they reject sex.

          again, i’m a big gay, but my sexual interest in a woman is mostly tied to if i have a emotional connection with her. casual sex bores the shit out of me and i’d rather masturbate than bone a lady if i am not legit into her as a person.

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        You’re absolutely correct. I just wish incels could realize this.

        It’s not a “real” problem but it IS a problem, to anon. And instead of doing something to address it his solution is to take a pill that will help him ignore it.

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    Fake: anon has the balls to chop off his balls
    Gay: anon isn’t fucking pretty women

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    Maybe I’m gay, but I’ve never wanted a bone a woman so bad it got in the way of living my life.

    Just jack it and move on bro. It’s not that hard.

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        Sexual dissatisfaction can contribute to bad mental health, especially if you’re a lot needier in that regard.

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        You’re correct, I don’t die of sexual dissatisfaction.

        But more to the point, the sense of hunger, horniness, co2 poisoning, desire for human companionship, etc. are fundamental human experiences that drive our behaviors. Their absence is noticed in more ways than might immediately be apparent. Anon’s tenuous relationship with showering, for instance, might be completely severed in the absence of a sex drive. Hell, it might inhibit his desire to leave home. This could be a death knell.

        Also, daily nutrition bags in the arm are an option. Dietary masturbation

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    What pills would even do that? I know that anti-depressants can have that effect, but it’s usually temporary (i.e. the libido-suppressing effect subsides after taking them for about half a year).

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    How does a man make it to 26 without slipping, tripping and falling in some pussy?! By 32: Had two girls I never met come knocking one night. Neighbor dropped their cousin on me, two nights in a row. Had a stripper I’d blown off the night before barge in my room and have her way with me. Weirdly, I don’t think I’ve ever met and immediately bedded someone I met at a bar, despite 2,000 nights in bars. :( Maybe once? Much of my youth is a blur.

    For context; I’m short and scrawny, not exactly Brad Pitt here fellas. Is all it takes showering, basic hygiene, dressing decently and not being a weirdo?!

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      Oh hey I spent my 20s jumping guys like you. It’s all those things you mentioned. A guy that’s decently hygienic and unlikely to just rape me if I needed to back out was basically my entire checklist. The scrawny-ness does help in the less threatening department.

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      because he’s not attractive to women.

      women don’t fuck ugly men unless money is involved.

      i know quite a few 40+ virgins. they are normal guys. they just aren’t attractive to women.

      women are super picky and generally reject any guy they consider average or below average. men are not as picky.

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        women fuck ugly men all of the time without money… actually they’re way waaaay more likely to prioritize personality over looks than men…

        you do not know quite a few 40+ virgins, you know bots, liars, and people with horrible personalities on an incel forums

        you have to actually try to interact with women before you can make that judgement… and not just thinking about fucking them while mumbling and sweating… or hollering “hey baby” from your car….

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          they don’t find those men ugly. it’s about attraction. they prioritize social status above all else.

          i have slept with dozens of women. i am well versed in how women work. and how unreliable their self reporting about sex is. most of my women friends self with the guys they say they hate, and the guys they say they want, they would never have sex with because they find them completely unattractive.

          mostly because they want to date men with lots of money and high status, regardless of whether or not that guy treats them or anyone else, well.

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            there is literally nothing you can say about all women that’s true.
            yes it’s requires that they find something attractive about you. Sometimes status is part of it? but never in my experiences…
            each woman is as different about what they find attractive as men are… it’s literally exactly the same, but with different social pressures that color people’s perceptions.
            ….
            but this is all standard, boiler plate, “incel” talking points.
            all of MY women friends sleep with guys that they like… sometimes they find out they don’t like them anymore and they don’t sleep with them anymore (aka break up).
            your problem is you’re not aware of why women generally don’t like you, but i can tell you a great place to start is to stop seeing them as this separate creature from men. stop seeing them as this vessel for your dick and as the people they are, each one enjoying their lives and navigating it in their own ways…
            then get to know them for real… not screen caps of bots pretending to be women on twitter

            the very root of it all is you’re seeing “pick up artist” theories on evolutionary psychology as just pure facts (also where the word “incel” comes from).

            but instead of using it to manipulate a small percentage of vulnerable women, you’re using it to defeat yourself without trying.

            most relationships start from people you work with or around… because they can get to know you over time, build trust, and they can see you demonstrate some level of ability and competence in something
            not just “hey baby, check out these biceps”

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              most people don’t understand status and status signalling. it’s the water they swim in totally unaware of how it works, but they are doing it all the time. pick up stuff works because it’s about status signalling.

              do some psych and sociology reading on sex and relationships.

              don’t know what you are talking about, workplace dating is actively discouraged and people increasingly meet partners from apps. the vast majority of dating is app dating for the past decade.

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        Only liking “pretty women” is dumb because it’s not a real thing. Op will be miserable until he learns to appreciate the diversity of the human body.

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          I personally fall in this camp. I’m only attracted to women who I’m attracted to, and what I’m attracted to is fairly well aligned with conventional beauty standards. The thought of being intimate with someone who I’m not attracted to gives me a visceral feeling of nausea, and on the occasions I’ve done it anyway in the name of pushing my own boundaries and expanding my horizons, I’ve woken up the next morning feeling dirty and emotionally sick.

          Of course, my attraction to any given individual is not a judgement of their character or worth as a human being. I don’t dislike these people, or hold any ill will for them. My penis just doesn’t want to be inside them. Felt this way since I was about 9 years old, and the feeling has been pretty consistent since then - I suspect it is quite immutable. This, for me, is quite inconvenient since I also have a high sex drive and am highly motivated by sex. My life would be far easier if I had the capacity to enjoy sex with a greater diversity of people - but I can’t.

          I solve this problem by being attractive, so pretty women want to sleep with me. It’s a fair bit of work, but it’s worth it for the hotties. Plus the other benefits.