Records are a bit fuzzy about the origins of the Djinn going back to (as far as I know) ~700 BC. Whether early pagan beliefs or general folklore, it’s hard to tell because there are little written records and the concept was so widespread across the Western Asian continent that it’s a bit of everything.

It’s noted in several different cultures from Canaanite to Zoroastrianism to Islam, all very similar but also with varying differences. For some cultures they were seen as evil while others were good, and the most recent (historically speaking) is that they had free will and had their own personality, so it varied.

For the fertile crescent cultures (Canaanites), they used the term “ilahi”,which means god, interchangeably with jinn. And they don’t mean capital G god, just a god (metaphysical creature with supernatural powers) that has power and should be revered as that.

If we want to look are your question specifically - when did they get their bad reputation?

The short answer is: largely during the 19th century through early Orientalist literature and cheap popular fiction.

Europeans first encountered jinn via translations of One Thousand and One Nights (notably Aladdin) in the late 18th century; the tales portray jinn ambivalently, not uniformly as evil.

During the 19th century, Orientalist literature and media presented exoticized, sensationalized depictions of Arab culture that emphasized the mysterious and dangerous—shaping Western perceptions of jinn.

This is one publisher with several retellings https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Arabian_nights_entertainments_(Longman_1898)

Even Edgar Allen Poe jumped on the fad: https://en.m.wikisource.org/wiki/The_Thousand-and-Second_Tale_of_Scheherazade

After the 1001 Night’s translations, inexpensive popular formats (penny dreadfuls, shilling shockers, dime novels) borrowed Arabian Nights motifs and used genies/jinn as lurid, often villainous figures, reinforcing a “bad” reputation in mass culture.

It was only until later in the 20-21st century did “genies” start becoming “good”, and again, through popular media. Further adaptations and retelling of 1001 nights began showing different versions of Jinns. Primetime sitcom series like " I dream of a Jeannie" showing jinns in a more positive light, and we of course can’t overlook Disney’s retelling of Aladdin.

Sources (as well as modern references): Lebling, Robert (2010). Legends of the Fire Spirits: Jinn and genies from Arabia to Zanzibar. New York, NY & London, UK: I.B. Tauris.

Magic and Divination in Early Islam. (2021). Vereinigtes Königreich: Taylor & Francis.

Fee, C.R.; Webb, Jeffrey B. (29 August 2016). American Myths, Legends, and Tall Tales: An encyclopedia of American folklore. ABC-CLIO. p. 527. ISBN 978-1-610-69568-8.

Thanks for the additional info!

Porter has already stated that they’d go with the Embraer or Airbus, not the Bombardier plane - both of which are definitely quiet, but not Canadian made or more quiet than the turbo prop planes unfortunately. Though range would get to Latin America (Caribbean and closest western Europe - barely Paris). Not bad for the snow birds. Realistically, there’d be more flights to the US.

Porter is positioning its Embraer 195-E2 narrowbody airliners as the “whisper jets” Ford has previously spoken about in justifying the decision.

https://skiesmag.com/news/porter-airlines-welcomes-plan-for-jet-service-at-billy-bishop-toronto-city-airport/

Boarding and off boarding + luggage, fueling, restocking times would also be longer with bigger planes and more than double the passengers. The small planes are why things are so quick right now. Still faster than Pearson probably, but that’s because Pearson is so slow/inefficient.

I think the environmental impacts are less to do with the island and waterways changing, but more CO2 because of jet planes, more cars (people will still Uber because they’re lazy), and a lot more congestion on the roads in general.

Not to mention that flight paths would have to be very specific to maintain the height of developments (current and future) like the Port Lands, or the developments will have to reduce their height (which is the likely scenario) affecting much needed housing numbers close to core Toronto.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/billy-bishop-expansion-housing-9.7163700

Thanks!

And oh yeah! I read some of that person’s posts, and even went through their profile. What a rabbit hole that was. I still can’t 100% tell if it’s the biggest shit poster I’ve ever come across online or just that wild!

I don’t know what source you’re quoting

Fair. I also commented on the other Mods earlier post about it and told them that this account is just a month old.

Can I throw my hat in the ring? I’m a history fan, I don’t subscribe to any religious beliefs that inform or perverse my understanding of history, and I have some free time.

I’m not sure what your argument is.

We can talk about the marginalization of the Shia and also their forced migration from central parts of Lebanon to the South all day long. Yes, it happened. I’m not denying that. But the primary reason that Hezbollah exists is as a resistance group, otherwise they wouldn’t need their weapons.

You’ll also notice that even in the article you quoted, issa mentions that the South was also unstable with the influx of refugees and skirmishes between them and Israel, AND the marginalization of the Shia.

The problem was not simply poverty, according to Issa, but government abandonment under the conditions of permanent threat.

So what’s your argument exactly?

Israel pulled their occupation out of Lebanon in 2000, the Syrian occupation lasted until 2005 (post Prime Minister assassination). Then 2006 war, then 2008 clashes where Hezbollah attacked Lebanese because their communication system was threatened.

So to say that the South was neglected as if it was purposefully done by the central government and not that the central government was in disarray is heavily misunderstanding the political landscape.

Not to mention that Hezbollah and allies have had a majority of seats in parliament for most of that period. So the question is, why didn’t Hezbollah provide more support to the South through the central government rather than their own networks?

They admitted they were wrong, what corrective action will they take?

The past few years there was a great “purge” of journalists that were publicly against the genocide with the excuse that the news outlets needed to stay independent (this was at Reuters and AP news). Because being against genocide is equated with supporting Hamas.

But while those who protested the genocide were fired, those supporting the genocide were simply supporting a country against terrorism, and so they remained.

And you can see how apparent that is in the language used by most media outlets.

Since its founding in the 1980s, Hezbollah has gone to war with Israel multiple times.

CNN should probably mention the conditions that led to Hezbollah’s founding.

Admittedly, Hezbollah hasn’t been great to Lebanese either, but Israel never let up the pressure and aggression that only continued to justify Hezbollah’s argument to exist. And a fractured neighbor is much better than a unified neighbor.

Their response sounds like what AI would say when it’s called out.

They should do better and they should make public what they’ll do so it won’t happen again

When there’s a case of genocide being investigated, the UK would like to say that they did all they can to prevent it. All while the beat and outlaw protests against the genocide.

It’s OK to call out the hypocrisy.

Or do you want me to clap for them like a trained monkey and say “what a great step in the right direction”?

Lip service. With no actual sanctions on the state itself or ceasing to send weapons and components, then it’ll be more useless than the paper it’s written on.

Should just start downvoting all Israeli sources

Israeli actually, like express VPN

The BBC doesn’t capture the sequence of events on purpose and Wuddi is trying to obfuscate even further.

• Israel has been threatening to bomb a densely populated area in a Beirut suburb (this is while there’s supposed to be a ceasefire in Lebanon)

• Iran warns Israel saying that they will retaliate if they do

• Israel bombs that area

• Hezbollah respond with rockets

• Iran makes good on their retaliation

Noted, corrected the title

Was more pointing to the fact that country/geographic names are often Anglicized because that’s how western maps would label them (incorrect translations or pronunciations).

There’s a pacific island nation changing their name to their original because for decades they were known as the colonizer name. Is that wrong or oppressive?

So I guess deciding what to be called would be up to that nation.

Listen, fuck Putin and Slava Ukraine your analysis is mostly sounds, but civilians are definitely getting hit and I wouldn’t generalize or gloss over the loss of life

A bus being hit https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3peyykxd5o

A school with children casualties https://news.un.org/en/story/2026/05/1167579

But while this is a protracted war where civilians are still being hit, we can see how accurate both sides can be. Meanwhile Israel is carpet bombing and calling it precision strikes.