European. Contrarian liberal. Insufferable green. History graduate. I never downvote opinions expressed in good faith and I do not engage with people who downvote mine (which may be why you got no reply). Low-effort comments with vulgarity or snark will also be politely ignored.

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  • a very popular meme

    Interesting. All is provisionally forgiven.

    On the lab-leak boredom-fest, yes I agree that the intent-vs-accident distinction is crucial and that the intent variant absolutely qualifies as conspirationism given that there’s zero evidence for it either empirical or rational. You’re right that the two were conflated problematically.

    BTW it would be hard to be less conspirationist than me. I am about as skeptical as they come. I’m not even down for JFK, i.e. the starter-level conspiracy. Imagine that!

    On Gaza, that’s an interesting counterfactual about the Rohingya, I admit that it’s somewhat persuasive. Personally I just hate emotion-charged words which are impossible to falsify because they require insight into other people’s minds. I share Orwell’s take: words should have clear meanings, agreed upon by all, or they should just be avoided (except in poetry). But of course the emotional valency is exactly why most people love the word genocide. Who cares about accuracy, it feels so good! Similar situation for “racist”, “fascist”, “woke” and bunch of others.

    BTW I read recently that the framers of the genocide crime did not predict the power it would take on. They thought the other universal crimes (i.e. war crime, crime against humanity, and - especially - aggression) were all at least as bad as genocide. Maybe the fact that it’s a neologism gave it extra power.


  • “the source is that I made it the fuck up”

    Why the need to make your point aggressively like this?

    To (try to) wrap this up, my objection in that case is to the characterization as “conspiracy”. The proximate cause of the pandemic are still not fully understood. It is not black and white, just as Gaza is not black and white. The lab-leak hypothesis was never a “conspiracy” in that negligence (among lab technicians) is by definition not conspiratorial. Still less was it “racist” (by that standard the “wet market” explanation is surely more “racist” still - how absurd!). And yet I believe both of those slurs were pushed into the Wikipedia article at some point by activist editors, even into the title. Now that seems to be corrected. Hallelujah. The lab leak theory is a theory, not a conspiracy. Contrary to your belief, a bunch of reputable sources (now) accept that it is at least possible if not the most likely cause. Again, it hardly matters who’s right, what matters is that Wikipedia should be in the business of laying out the facts, not pushing readers towards pre-judged conclusions.