• BillyClark@piefed.social
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    22 hours ago

    Note that below, I am saying that Dave is using the informal logical fallacy argument from authority. He thinks that a “succesful” musician isn’t a political expert, and therefore, their opinion may be ignored. Meanwhile Tom Morello is saying the opposite, that it doesn’t matter.

    One basic problem with argument from authority, where the person making the argument is not the authority themselves, is that they are saying that they themselves cannot make the argument. So, how can they know whether to trust the authority that they trust?

    It’s not a bad default position to defer to an authority on a subject that you know little about, but that is not an argument that you should use to counter other people who have an argument.

    • hirihit640@sh.itjust.works
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      4 hours ago

      aside from his own “authority” though, Tom Morello gives no argument aside from “it’s obvious”. So not a great argument from them either

      • III@lemmy.world
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        3 hours ago

        To be fair, the obviousness of the administration’s actions isn’t really an arguable point. The things they are doing are very public and very clear. So the argument probably moves on to what makes something unethical or inhumane.

    • Aralakh@lemmy.ca
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      20 hours ago

      I really appreciate your thoughtful posts, always happen to learn something and/or glean some perspective. Have a great day!