• RangerJosey@lemmy.ml
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    4 months ago

    Me: “I’ve tried everything I am physically capable of trying short of anorexia. Ive tried to walk. Ive tried lifting weights. I’ve even starved myself. 200 calories every other day for 3 months. Nothing works. I think I may have a legitimate medical issue”

    Doctor: “Drink water and walk. Thatll be $250.”

    Me:

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      It’s important to notice that while an underlying medical issue is certainly likely in your situation, and that’s hard to work against… There’s no physical way you were actually ingesting 200 daily calories and didn’t lose weight.

      This is beyond biology, it’s physical. You were either consuming way more than that, or you were actually losing weight and just didn’t notice. There’s no alternative.

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        I mean they said every other day, if one day they get 200 and the next they get 5000 they ain’t losing weight…

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          4 months ago

          Are they doing that or is this just a “stupid idiot is clearly just cheating” blanket retort?

          Had a friend who was overweight and got into long distance running. He went from 300 lbs to a lean, mean 140. Then he injured his knee and had to give up his sport. Simple diet didn’t work, he steadily put on 100 lbs over the next two years.

          Another girl I know cleans straight through 3000+ calories a day easy. Never went above 120. In fact, if she’s not housing down food she gets weak and anemic.

          That’s got nothing to do with intake and everything to do with metabolism

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      4 months ago

      200 calories every other day

      Forgot to mention the 8000 calories on the alternating days but I’m sure that’s fine

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    4 months ago

    I can’t blame doctors for letting obesity color their opinion. Look around your doctor’s waiting room. Everyone is fat. Imagine the suffering and illness they see daily due to fat. How can those observations not color their general attitude?

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      Everyone is fat

      Exactly, which points squarely at an environmental cause, not at individual sloth/gluttony or some shit like that.

      The conclusion you’re saying doctors arrive at—which I don’t doubt you’re correct about—is actually completely fucking backwards.

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        which points squarely at an environmental cause

        No, it points to people eating processed food and other shit. Guess what, you can still be healthy if you eat healthy.

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          So then the question becomes, why is processed food and other shit so pervasive in the average American diet? That’s what an environmental factor is.

          Refusing to think about the problem in terms of systems because you’ve got a hard-on for blaming individuals is absolutely missing the point.

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            You are 100% correct that we as a society have a problem with this

            That’s why the individual has to take extra care to eat right and excersise. Their doctor needs to emphasize this as much as possible.

            VCan we fix out society? I don’t know, I sure hope so. But in the meantime people are responsible for their own health.