Tried a similar conversation with my dad last weekend while talking about the “gang members” deported without due process. I said, “you realize without due process even you could be deported. He said “if I’m here illegally let them send me home?” And I said, “without due process how do you prove you’re here legally?”
When people try to argue with me about how President Elon and Trump aren’t Nazis this keeps coming to mind. There is literally no more line between them and the Nazis, because they willingly and intentionally stepped over it after they paid off the supreme court to erase it.
I think this is the biggest cognitive hurdle to convincing Trump supporters to stop supporting him. They’d have to acknowledge how abhorrent his actions and policies are and, since they tie their identity so much to this support, they’d have to in turn acknowledge how they willfully supported fascism.
It is already difficult to convince someone they are wrong. It is a whole other ball game trying to convince someone that their wrongness was catastrophic for their own country and countrymen.
Silence. But not the kind of silence where you think they might be having an epiphany. The kind of silence where he knew that I was wrong, but he didn’t know why.
Tried a similar conversation with my dad last weekend while talking about the “gang members” deported without due process. I said, “you realize without due process even you could be deported. He said “if I’m here illegally let them send me home?” And I said, “without due process how do you prove you’re here legally?”
When people try to argue with me about how President Elon and Trump aren’t Nazis this keeps coming to mind. There is literally no more line between them and the Nazis, because they willingly and intentionally stepped over it after they paid off the supreme court to erase it.
I think this is the biggest cognitive hurdle to convincing Trump supporters to stop supporting him. They’d have to acknowledge how abhorrent his actions and policies are and, since they tie their identity so much to this support, they’d have to in turn acknowledge how they willfully supported fascism.
It is already difficult to convince someone they are wrong. It is a whole other ball game trying to convince someone that their wrongness was catastrophic for their own country and countrymen.
I’m curious how he responded? In the process of attempting to deprogram my own parent.
Silence. But not the kind of silence where you think they might be having an epiphany. The kind of silence where he knew that I was wrong, but he didn’t know why.
Thanks. Frustrating that that is basically what I had assumed, but thanks.