It’s much better here! It’s nice and cozy, kinda like Reddit circa 15 years ago.

For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world and if you’re a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch, if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz!biology@mander.xyzand !astronomy@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo there’s always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz

You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)

If you want to explore the world of PC Gaming on Linux check !linux_gaming@lemmy.world or for more general Linux !linux@programming.dev and we even have a Linux meme comm at !linuxmemes@lemmy.world (we like Linux around here lmao)

For news !world@lemmy.world is excellent and for US focused news !news@lemmy.world and !usa@midwest.social

Want to ensure your privacy in this crazy world? Checkout !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

And of course, the best for last, the best comm on the Lemmy-verse, !bikinibottomtwitter@lemmy.world !!! Just make sure to buy a krabby patty!

We’re not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies, but here they’re mostly on what’s known as the Tankie Triad: lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. For the most part, grad and hex are widely defederated from (Users and content of those instances won’t be “synced” and you won’t see them) and you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you’d rather just not deal with them. .ml tends to be more subtle opting for censorship of dissent before things get crazy on their threads and allowing certain propaganda to flourish (If you wish to see documentation of it, checkout !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”

Obligatory, fuck Spez

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    Can anyone recommend any other places? Ones where mods aren’t overzealous and biased *****.

    (The stars represent a word I would probably be banned for saying).

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      @NotLemming@lemm.ee Do you like reading, or even marvel at libraries and stuff? The last time I checked literature.cafe, the atmosphere (as well as the instance (I call it “online raft”, for one) mods there) seems to be typical of a small town library. It also has comms for fanfics in general, and genre-specific ones.

      I bet there’s also even-smaller fedi-rafts out there that cater to a specific creative interest/hobby, or an entire fandom; time and effort will tell.

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    I’ve been browsing Lemmy for 2ish months, went ahead and made an account just recently. Deleted my Reddit account last week and I’m chuffed.

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    When I first joined Lemmy there was hardly conversation to be found but now things are starting to really pickup. Next you will really start to see niche communities thrive and I’m all for it.

    Welcome to our reddit refugees!

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    Here for The Great Reddit migration. People left Digg for Reddit for similar reasons. Although the issues with Reddit are magnitudes more concerning.

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      Reddit has magnitudes more inertia, unfortunately. And a predominant sentiment seems to be “we should stay on Reddit to counterbalance the bad parts."

      Or even worse, move to Discord :/

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        Discord makes feel like an old man shaking my fist at the clouds. The UI is the worst, and I have no idea how anything works, but I have to be on it because my friends use it for in-game chat on multiplayer games.

        I never feel dumber than when I’m trying to find something on Discord. Ugh.

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          I think its interface is pretty good, but it’s structure absolutely sucks for larger communities. It’s a deliberate information black hole for shooting the breeze, yet people treat it like a forum, wiki, or hub,.

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        Or even worse, move to Discord :/

        reddit got worse faster after IPO.

        Discord is now doing the same, so that’ll last a few months lol.

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        I’m sure you’re right, migration here won’t make much of a dent in reddit’s numbers. It’d be great to have more people to fill out some of the smaller communities but we don’t need the ones who don’t want to move.

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      This isn’t a full migration sadly, at least I don’t think so. It’s a welcome trickle of new users, but Reddit will need to do much worse to force a full on exodus. Though I have no doubt they will eventually. But I don’t think we’re getting another mass Rexit event until they turn off old.reddit.

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          I think part of the problem is if you post a lot about lemmy on reddit to recruit, you’ll get banned/shadowbanned eventually.

          That’s what Twitter did to Bluesky.

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    Thanks for the welcome wagon. This was the first post I clicked on. I feel like a boomer (I am not one) trying to understand the Fediverse even though I can understand how email works, somehow I can’t apply that to how it works here. Like am I supposed to be able to see Mastadon or Pixelfed content on here? What would that look like? Ok also had some weed tincture so that probably has something to do with my confusion. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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      Welcome!

      Yea, you’ll see mastodon stuff from time to time, there’s nothing really that tells you it’s a mastodon post, they just look kinda different. For a mastodon post usually the giveaway is hashtags in the post like #hashtag except they’ll be links.

      Pixelfed is supposed to show up too, but federation with Lemmy has yet to “kick in” (at least as far as I’ve noticed)

      Also on Lemmy you can do ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ without any extra "" actually, here putting the extra 2 backslashes makes you lose your arm

      It’s actually really nice, now I can ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯ right from my phone keyboard lmfao ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ ͡⁠°⁠ ͜⁠ʖ⁠ ͡⁠°⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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        Ok here’s another question. How does this exist financially, who pays for servers and whatnot? Believe you me I am so glad not to be assaulted by ads and whatnot but isn’t this expensive?

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          It’s not actually all that expensive to host websites, it never has been, sh.itjust.works a larger instance with something like 1.5k posts and comments/day only spends about $150/month

          A bid cost saving is not using the “cloud”, cloud services do what they advertise (mainly allow one to “easily” scale up to millions of users), but its costly.

          But the beauty of it is that because Lemmy is decentralized, not one person/org has to worry about scaling to millions of users as the Lemmy-verse grows so hosters can skip the cloud

          Some pay out of pocket and some take the ways of the forums of ol, donations and small perks for donating. For example, having a db0 account and being a donator gains you voting rights. There’s been talk about private/VIP comms for donators as well

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          Donations for server costs. Apparently each user costs a little over 1 dollar a year, hosting-wise. Reminds me of how one site I use for checking stuff in pokemon sleep, how-many-more.com, said in a reddit post from the owner that they don’t even take donations because the cost of running it is absolutely miniscule and that you should absolutely question people who want upkeep money for largely text-based stuff like that.

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    Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”

    Saying it again to everyone in the back. The modlog is a great feature. Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.

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      Couldn’t an instance admin just disable modlogs or spoof them, though

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        Yes, but the backlash would be undoubtedly intense, everyone here loves the modlog (well probably not the trolls/tankies LMFAO)

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            Isn’t the whole thing about public and harsh punishments in authoritarian societies to keep everyone in check?

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              its also to hide and shield your atrocities, punishments from the public, hence they dont know whats going on so its easy to claim any story you made up.

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            the tankies/MLs are the biggest downside of lemmy, they prefer insults to discussion and have a very stalinist approach to moderation/administration. they are the spez of lemmy

            oh and they spread russian propaganda like jolly traitors

            authoritarians have always been the same

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              Keep in mind that not everyone on ml or everyone with leftist leanings is a tankie. Yes, there are a lot of tankies there, but ML is a general purpose instance and some longstanding lemmy users simply have their accounts there

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                i was referring to the fundamentalists, wannabe revolutionaries and myopic protesters

                if you have a main account on .ml to bait MLs then fine, but it might be time to make an account elsewhere. all the MLs that want to troll the rest of lemmy have done the same so they don’t bring the instance into further disrepute

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        For their own instance, sure.

        But it won’t alter the modlogs of other Instances, which also have a copy if the community is federated to them.

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        Because of federation the lock-in is much lower and we could move to a new instance due to a rogue admin.

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      Eh, you say that.

      Image of post
      • The post title was something like “What is your ideal political system”

      (I’ve since deleted my comment just in case I doxxed myself elsewhere)

      • When I click on the link for that post it says the post was deleted.
      • When I look at the ModLog for AskLemmy@lemmy.world, there’s nothing there in that time period
      Image of modlog

      So either there’s some funny shenanigans going on at lemmy.world, or more likely maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances, or…?

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        The main thing you need to know the username of the OP who posted it. Chances are they were banned, had their account deleted or deleted the post themselves. The comments in the post is collateral damage in deleted/removed posts. It has happened to me and it does feel bad a bit since comments of deleted posts and children of deleted comments do not appear in the modlog. The idea though, is that the main OP who has been actioned against has recourse. The process certainly can be improved but its still several steps above Reddit in transparency.

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        maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances

        The modlog is vulnerable to the same federation issues that all Lemmy content can suffer from.

        Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases

        But also, like all federated content, you won’t see modlog entries on your Instances modlog if they’ve defederated from an instance. So you won’t see hex/grad modlog entries on .world but you can from .ee for example

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          Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases

          I believe this depends on what community it happens on. If the community is on ml, then ml moderation actions will be copied by world (or any other instance showing that community), but if it happens on a world community then ml moderation actions stay on ml.

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          Do you see a different modlog for asklemmy@lemmy.world as I’m seeing in that screenshot then?

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            I checked 2 other instance modlog’s, and didn’t see them there.

            I did notice “*Permanently Deleted*” for its post title, which is usually indicative of a total post purge (Deletes all content from a post, pictures, comments everything. Normally, an uploaded picture can hang around on an instance directly accessible by its image url), but it’s supposed to be reserved for really bad shit (read: illegal) you don’t want hanging around in an instances DBs

            That being said, even permanently deleted/purged stuff generally does show on the modlog, at least an entry that just says Permanently Deleted, so that is a bit concerning.

            Id suggest putting together your evidence into a post for !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com maybe you can catch the attention of another instance admin, maybe of db0 themself and they can look into it more (admins of other instances have special visibility into some things)

            Edit:

            I just realized you participated in an asklemmy post, not made one yourself, I was searching incorrectly lol

            Yea there are a number of other things that can happen in that case like blaze said, OP deleted the post, deleted their account, was caught posting really bad shit and their account was wholly purged etc

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      Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.

      That actually isn’t true, they can disappear it for normal users. I’ve had things disappear at LW and when I called it out, the shitty admin dude went after me. Also, if you delete a thread, it disappears. That’s the one thing the bad place did correct up until I left, it might be different now though. They kept the threads up even if they shut down the thread. Now, it just disappears.

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        There are instances where deleting content permanently is a good feature, like for illegal content and spammers.

        A way to list what was disappeared entirely and the reason for it would be good for transparency. Like if a comment/thread is deleted for illegal images just having a note in the modlog that it was deleted for illegal content would be good even though the images won’t show. .

        Spammers might still clog up the modlog though, but there could probably be a way to consolidate them or something.

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          I agree. I think the bad place had a warning page if it was deleted for violent or abusive content. Otherwise, it stayed up. Again, it might be different now though, I haven’t been there in years now.

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    It’s funny because I bet a lot of us that came on the API wave had/have 15+ year old accounts.

    Mines 18.

    I had a post from /r/teenagers show up on my homepage and I realized that my account is older than most people there say they are.

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      12 years, and almost a million karma, and I was permabanned soon after the election for repeating an anti-HitlerPig post that I had repeated many times BEFORE the electuon.

      I was bummed at the smaller crowds on Lemmy at first, then I realized I didn’t have to scroll through dozens of puns, bots, trolls, idiots, etc. on EVERY post.

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        The lack of the niche communities is the main difference for me, mostly. But that takes time. Otherwise I mostly like it here :D

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          Stick around. It’ll fill out with time. There’s plenty of low activity niche communities on here, try just making a post in one sometime. I’ve been on a campaign of doing weekly posts like stargazing Saturdays on mander.xyz’s astronomy community.

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          Same. I still find myself regularly going to old Reddit threads on extremely niche topics that only a few people on the internet seem to have talked about somehow, but a lot of what I want most of the time is already here on Lemmy, so that’s nice.

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        The lack of karma farming is amazing. Not nearly the same amount of people frantically grasping at low-hanging-fruit puns.

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      🙋10 year account for me, thousands of comments. 166k comment karma. It was a wild ride, but when they took Boost it was over for me. Fuck em.

      Consequently, now that I’m here I post WAY more, I don’t even think my post count cracked a hundred and here it’s…4…thousand…fuck, I’m here too much 😅

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      18, 17, and 10 year old main accounts.haven’t been there since the API fiasco, but I kinda hated it for a few years before that.

      I was the primary character in a pretty huge event (fiasco) in Reddit history 16-18 years ago, that I wish I could talk more about without doxxing myself.

      Basically when TIFU and AITA got popular, the site kinda went to shit. Welllll, when smart phones got popular and people started to refer to Reddit as an “app”, it went to shit, Eternal September-style.

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        Those were the very first subreddits I blocked when it was possible. Then thousands more. Now even with blocked garbage subreddits it feels like mostly fake AI content these days, it’s almost FB level bad.

        That’s not even the reason I left, “Musk’s fumes are fatally toxic”. Permabanned for violence, like wtf? No way a human banned me.

        Well make an anonymous account here and fudge some details, I’m sure we’d all be interested to hear.

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          Oh that’s you! I saw your post about your ban for musk fuming and my partner and I both had a chuckle about the ridiculoscity of it all.

          Quick edit: yeah the creative writing (now AI slop) subs always made me upset. TIFU was always “I SEXED MY POOP” and AITA was always clickbait bullshit.

          All I’ll say about the event I was in is rest in peace, Tynan (I_RAPE_CATS)

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            15yo ago: Someone monetized our prank, not cool! 15 min ago: You are the product.

            Those were good times…

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        when smart phones got popular and people started to refer to Reddit as an “app”, it went to shit, Eternal September-style.

        I still hate seeing posts on websites where people are telling me to “swipe”.

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          Amen hahaha

          Society (bottom text) can pry “click” and “scroll” and “program” out of my old, dusty hands!

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      10y and 400k combined karma (mostly comment)

      And I actually managed cold turkey, partially helped by my creating an entire instance which kind of made Lemmy a hobby I was invested in both time and money wise.

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      Mine is certainly near 15 years old, but for the life of me I can’t remember exactly when I made an account, nor how many fake internet points I’d rattled up - it just seems so insignificant now.

      The best part of Lemmy is that if any instance starts becoming like Reddit is now, I can block it individually, or we can collectively decide to shun them! It’s not fool proof, but it’s a pretty large leap in the right direction.

      I dare say I miss the niche communities, but frankly, the main niche that I filled was on the pony side of things, and that’s pretty dead now. RIP smol horses, you all get to live your best lives now as glue 🫡

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      10yr old account, was mostly a lurker. I am actually active on here since I don’t need to comment on a post 5min after it’s been created for my comments to be seen. It feels refreshing.

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      12 year account here, but was accountless for many years before that. Pretty much a lurker on reddit. Here, I don’t post much, but I’ve been trying to add to the conversation as much as possible. I find I get genuine responses from folks, even if we disagree with each other. By the time I left Reddit for the API changes, it had been either jokes, trolls or bots on the biggest subreddits for years, no real genuine discussion anymore.

      Not to say it’s perfect in the comments around here, but it’s a lot better than reddit has been for like, 8+ years

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      I came here on the API wave and went to Reddit from digg. I left digg after the Digg 2.0 fuck up.

      I heard Kevin Rose purchased Digg again and plans to redo it again.

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      Rolled over so fast it’s like he’d been just waiting for a reason to ban content he didn’t like.

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      Spez has been rolling over like a bitch, his whole fucking life. fucking punchable face that little cunt.

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      I made an account after I got a warning for upvoting criticism of musk on a post about Teslas being attacked. I was warned for upvoting violent content. I purposely avoided upvoting such content after admin sub posted about it.

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      Didn’t this happen since 2020 for the censorship? Because I got my account banned/kicked out.

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    I remember Reddit after I started using it, around the time of the Digg exodus. It was a fun community of nerdy people. Just doing some things because it was cool.

    A few years later, I had the weirdest feeling that that vibe was gone. That both behind the scenes, and more overtly, they had to be prepping for accommodation of corporate interests. A little bit of officially sanctioned promotion here, a dash of ignoring guerrilla marketing there.

    And for several years now, it’s not even subtle anymore. Reddit does what some dude with money bags says must be done, users be damned.

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      by 2016, the enshittification was appearing, because of trump 17 is when the bannings of accounts for the slightest disagreement became noticible, around the same time illicit subs became a target of bans, because GOP complained.

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    Reddit has turned into a real fuck of a fuck over the last few weeks. It was a bad omen when they started charging for API access, but that was just a preview. They’re in full-on enshittification mode now.

    You get shadowbanned for unspecified reasons, without apparently breaking any rules. They do cute shit with vague error messages rather than tell you what’s up. Zero actual communication.

    They’re also busting people for upvoting super mario kart jpegs for some reason, but when they do that they actually tell you.

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      I up voted a Mario Bros Luigi jpg and a few days later my login doesn’t work.

      That’s actually the outcome I wanted, this is a celebration not a rant 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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      Omg this! I made a brand new account with my tutamail and a they shadowbanned me after like two posts. No communication, just suddenly “server errors.” Apparently it’s because I use a VPN but friendly users told me that not reddit admin.

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        I moved across the country and lost my pristine 12-year old reddit account a few years back because at least one of the mods of the local city subreddit here is a psychopath who followed me across multiple subs harassing me, seemingly for being too vocal about homeless advocacy, eventually getting me permabanned from the site by literally making up a report where there was no mechanism for me to protest.

        Since then I’d been making burner accounts to use the site, but they’d been surviving fewer and fewer weeks until a few months back they started getting immediately shadowbanned. So I said fuck it, why do I even want to be wallowing in a cesspit like that? It’s way past fediverse time.

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          This is a legitimate problem not just with reddit but currently most well seen ON reddit.

          Bad actors. Mods and users with an agenda.

          Reddit as a platform has been falling this way for years. As a place to share information if you try to share information (Or opionion) that does not line up with what is ‘acceptable’ you don’t just get down voted anymore. You have your entire post history scrutinized and reported even if what you said was fine during the time it was posted. Comments from years ago getting reported. You have reddit AI doing some automodding but you ALSO have those bad actors. They attack users and take over subreddits. It’s insidious. It’s gross. It’s not one group but generally it is groups that are have some kind of monetary backing. And reddit let’s it happen. Because these actions operate on the side of capital (not a communist but it’s easiest to call the group capital. It’s the one unifying ideal)

          This became much more obvious during the Palestinian/Israeli conflict and is only getting worse. Wrong thing isn’t just being down voted it’s being erased.

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          Also related to this is that feral tribalism between subreddits. If you are a part of one you will be banned from the opposition. My old main crossed party lines on many issues. Just reading. I posted once and was immediately banned from half a dozen subreddits and the kicker was that what I posted was an a political nonsense joke.

          Wanting to hear the opposition isn’t allowed. Voicing an opionion or asking a question from the oppositions pov is grounds for a ban.

          Another time I literally asked a question for the sake of learning. For years this was what I used reddit for. Learning. The “it’s not my job to educate you” people could just be quiet but instead they ban. Shadowban. Mute. I can’t use reddit the way I did in 2012 when I joined the first first time. It’s kind of a cesspool now.

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            Ugh! That conditioned, kneejerk, almost PTSD-style assumption that all questions are bad faith setups for a debate is one of the most toxic things about this format, leading to long chains of argument where both users are just talking past each other in reference to subtexts in the other’s comments that they’ve completely imagined. I do still encounter that here on Lemmy, but at this point I think a lot of Lemmy users are specifically trying to escape that sort of environment so it can usually be diffused by just stating plainly that you’re not setting up a gotcha. I do think this tendency is something we have to actively push back against by showing compassion and stating plainly up front what we want and why at the expense of maybe not feeling as cool as we would otherwise.

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      Well no, the API was not just a preview. It was a massive shift to “my way or the highway”. It’s just that “my way” is now the way of the emperor.

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      Error messages on Reddit: “Oh no, there’s something wrong!”
      Error messages on Lemmy: “Haha, I accidentally stopped docker, sorry!”

      We even have a community for talking about what goes on behind the scenes: !backend@feddit.uk

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        Theoretically, but it would only work on one instance (server), and that would put an instance in such bad odor that other instances might not want to peer with them anymore.

        Ironically, it would be likely to get that instance isolated from much of the network, if not all of it. That behavior is detestable to many who came here.