- cross-posted to:
- reddit@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- reddit@lemmy.world
It’s much better here! It’s nice and cozy, kinda like Reddit circa 15 years ago.
For your memes we have !memes@lemmy.world and if you’re a programmer of some kinds we got !programmer_humor@programming.dev to scratch that itch, if you like sciency posts mander.xyz has some excellent communities (communities=subreddits) like !science@mander.xyz, !biology@mander.xyzand !astronomy@mander.xyz and for a meme science combo there’s always the fantastic !science_memes@mander.xyz
You can also drop a shit(post) off at !lemmyshitpost@lemmy.world or hang out at !onehundredninetysix@lemmy.blahaj.zone (though you do have to post before you leave that one!)
If you want to explore the world of PC Gaming on Linux check !linux_gaming@lemmy.world or for more general Linux !linux@programming.dev and we even have a Linux meme comm at !linuxmemes@lemmy.world (we like Linux around here lmao)
For news !world@lemmy.world is excellent and for US focused news !news@lemmy.world and !usa@midwest.social
Want to ensure your privacy in this crazy world? Checkout !privacy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
And of course, the best for last, the best comm on the Lemmy-verse, !bikinibottomtwitter@lemmy.world !!! Just make sure to buy a krabby patty!
We’re not without our cons though, biggest problem we have are probably the Tankies, but here they’re mostly on what’s known as the Tankie Triad: lemmy.ml, lemmygrad and hexbear. For the most part, grad and hex are widely defederated from (Users and content of those instances won’t be “synced” and you won’t see them) and you only have to worry about .ml, but on Lemmy you can do a personal instance wide block if you’d rather just not deal with them. .ml tends to be more subtle opting for censorship of dissent before things get crazy on their threads and allowing certain propaganda to flourish (If you wish to see documentation of it, checkout !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works ) Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”
Obligatory, fuck Spez
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Here on Lemmy all moderator actions are public and available for viewing on what’s known as the “modlog”
Saying it again to everyone in the back. The modlog is a great feature. Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.
Instance Mods and admins can’t just disappear people and communities without a trace, and trolls can’t make up stories of unfair moderation without bringing receipts and their old account name.
That actually isn’t true, they can disappear it for normal users. I’ve had things disappear at LW and when I called it out, the shitty admin dude went after me. Also, if you delete a thread, it disappears. That’s the one thing the bad place did correct up until I left, it might be different now though. They kept the threads up even if they shut down the thread. Now, it just disappears.
There are instances where deleting content permanently is a good feature, like for illegal content and spammers.
A way to list what was disappeared entirely and the reason for it would be good for transparency. Like if a comment/thread is deleted for illegal images just having a note in the modlog that it was deleted for illegal content would be good even though the images won’t show. .
Spammers might still clog up the modlog though, but there could probably be a way to consolidate them or something.
I agree. I think the bad place had a warning page if it was deleted for violent or abusive content. Otherwise, it stayed up. Again, it might be different now though, I haven’t been there in years now.
Couldn’t an instance admin just disable modlogs or spoof them, though
Yes, but the backlash would be undoubtedly intense, everyone here loves the modlog (well probably not the trolls/tankies LMFAO)
the tankies were who created the modlog. broken clocks etc
Isn’t the whole thing about public and harsh punishments in authoritarian societies to keep everyone in check?
the tankies/MLs are the biggest downside of lemmy, they prefer insults to discussion and have a very stalinist approach to moderation/administration. they are the spez of lemmy
oh and they spread russian propaganda like jolly traitors
authoritarians have always been the same
For their own instance, sure.
But it won’t alter the modlogs of other Instances, which also have a copy if the community is federated to them.
If modlogs were disabled, it would get noticed pretty quickly. If some mod decided to waste a lot of time coming up with an elaborate scheme to try to mess with things unfairly, that instance would lose a lot of trust if it gets revealed.
On a related note, one funny thing that occurred recently: Mod sets up community with an automated moderator, automod boots the mod soon after.
Eh, you say that.
- Here’s a post I participated in 8 days ago on !asklemmy@lemmy.world
Image of post
- The post title was something like “What is your ideal political system”
(I’ve since deleted my comment just in case I doxxed myself elsewhere)
- When I click on the link for that post it says the post was deleted.
- When I look at the ModLog for AskLemmy@lemmy.world, there’s nothing there in that time period
Image of modlog
So either there’s some funny shenanigans going on at lemmy.world, or more likely maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances, or…?
People are still able to delete their own posts, that wouldn’t appear in the modlog
Ahhh, good point. Though, the “Permanently Deleted” made me think it’s an action of a mod rather than a user.
To test:: https://lemmy.ml/post/27769094
Please post something here in the linked thread. I will delete the whole post in an hour, and then please send me a screenshot of what you see when looking at your profile for comments for that thread.
That community doesn’t federate to my instance 😅
you can see my comment from ML, but you can’t see the communities? Federation is crazy complex haha
Federation is community dependent
Okay, I got responses from:
Please tell me how the deleted post looks
I was part of an experiment, huzzah!
Invisible indeed https://lemmy.ca/post/41361575/15492240
The main thing you need to know the username of the OP who posted it. Chances are they were banned, had their account deleted or deleted the post themselves. The comments in the post is collateral damage in deleted/removed posts. It has happened to me and it does feel bad a bit since comments of deleted posts and children of deleted comments do not appear in the modlog. The idea though, is that the main OP who has been actioned against has recourse. The process certainly can be improved but its still several steps above Reddit in transparency.
Ah that makes sense too
maybe the modlog isn’t completely visible across instances
The modlog is vulnerable to the same federation issues that all Lemmy content can suffer from.
Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases
But also, like all federated content, you won’t see modlog entries on your Instances modlog if they’ve defederated from an instance. So you won’t see hex/grad modlog entries on .world but you can from .ee for example
Do you see a different modlog for asklemmy@lemmy.world as I’m seeing in that screenshot then?
I checked 2 other instance modlog’s, and didn’t see them there.I did notice “*Permanently Deleted*” for its post title, which is usually indicative of a total post purge (Deletes all content from a post, pictures, comments everything. Normally, an uploaded picture can hang around on an instance directly accessible by its image url), but it’s supposed to be reserved for really bad shit (read: illegal) you don’t want hanging around in an instances DBsThat being said, even permanently deleted/purged stuff generally does show on the modlog, at least an entry that just says Permanently Deleted, so that is a bit concerning.Id suggest putting together your evidence into a post for !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com maybe you can catch the attention of another instance admin, maybe of db0 themself and they can look into it more (admins of other instances have special visibility into some things)Edit:
I just realized you participated in an asklemmy post, not made one yourself, I was searching incorrectly lol
Yea there are a number of other things that can happen in that case like blaze said, OP deleted the post, deleted their account, was caught posting really bad shit and their account was wholly purged etc
Because I’ve noticed the same thing with comments removed by .ml admins, I can see the modlog entry when looking on .ml itself, but when viewed from .worlds modlog it’s missing in some cases
I believe this depends on what community it happens on. If the community is on ml, then ml moderation actions will be copied by world (or any other instance showing that community), but if it happens on a world community then ml moderation actions stay on ml.
So of course Spez rolled over like a bitch
Rolled over so fast it’s like he’d been just waiting for a reason to ban content he didn’t like.
I don’t think he was waiting. There’s a reason so many of us came here two years ago.
I made an account after I got a warning for upvoting criticism of musk on a post about Teslas being attacked. I was warned for upvoting violent content. I purposely avoided upvoting such content after admin sub posted about it.
I tried out Lemmy during the initial Reddit migration but didn’t stick around. This week I finally deleted all my Reddit posts and comments along with my account and I’m giving the fediverse another chance. Fuck big tech.
Deleted my Reddit account when I could no longer use Apollo, but still kept up with a few subs for certain info. Finally discovered Lemmy and after being here for a short while I’ve nearly stopped visiting. This news has given me the push to be done 100%.
Ive had this account for a while, but I’ve mostly lurked. I like it better here anyways.
Hell yeah
Fresh from reddit here. What is the difference in subscribing and bookmarking a community and how do I find them after I subscribe/bookmark?
I’m using the Summit app if that makes a difference.
“Bookmark” is not a term I’m familiar with. I think it might be an app feature.
Subscribing is like Reddit, where your default frontpage view is only your subscribed communities. These communities could be from your server or a federated server, it just depends on what you subscribe to. You don’t really need to think about how federation works, it’ll just show up for you if you subscribe.
If you pick “Local” you’ll see a feed of the the popular posts from all communities hosted on your own server only. Some of your subscribed comms might be in there if they’re a local server comm. But it’s just a general feed from your server alone.
If you go to “All” then you get a feed from all federated communities, so you could be seeing posts from /c/linux from lemmy.ml as well /c/linux from another server (though it’s not likely to see posts from small communities unless you’re an incorrigible doomscroller). Generally you’ll run out of content on your subscribed only feed fairly quick due to the activity being relatively lower than Reddit, so browsing All gets you more content, but you’ll run into a lot of irrelevant shit in the process. But it can be a good way to find more things to subscribe to, as well.
In any case, welcome. I fled reddit after 15 years of contributing by posting and modding when they burned the app community and shit on the people that made Reddit what it was. At least here I don’t feel like my efforts to provide content and moderate is for someone else’s benefit, least of all a greedy little pigboy like spez.
Be the change you want to see.
If you go to “All” then you get a feed from all federated communities,
I’ve been here for a while and this is still unclear to me: Is All only the communities that are synced to my server? And syncing is dependent on a user on my server subscribing to it? So if I find a new community on a different server and subscribe to it, it will show up on my server’s All?
You got it.
Thank you so much for this!!
The one thing I’d add is that since you’re on lemmy.world, your “Local” feed is fairly heavy with content since some the most active communities are on .world. That’s not always the case if you’re homed on a small server that nobody subscibes to comms from.
And you can sub to multiple communities of the same name, but different servers.
And you can block individuals or entire server. Sometimes your own server defaultly blocks servers, for instance, lemmy.world (our home server) blocks lemmynsfw and hexbear (because tankies). You won’t see content or users from those servers with an account homed on lemmy.world. So if you want to browse porn, either manually browse to lemmynsfw.com and browse not logged in, or create an account if you feel the burning need to comment on porn posts.
I was reminded of this place because of a comment chain about what the next reddit was.
It’s funny because I bet a lot of us that came on the API wave had/have 15+ year old accounts.
Mines 18.
I had a post from /r/teenagers show up on my homepage and I realized that my account is older than most people there say they are.
🙋10 year account for me, thousands of comments. 166k comment karma. It was a wild ride, but when they took Boost it was over for me. Fuck em.
Consequently, now that I’m here I post WAY more, I don’t even think my post count cracked a hundred and here it’s…4…thousand…fuck, I’m here too much 😅
You’re doing the lord’s work, sir.
A stupid fuckface called a greedy pig boy…
I would love it if reddit clamped down on free speech. Please reddit, just lay it out on what else you want to limit. Let the people know what else they can’t say. Or even better- force people on reddit to make mandatory posts praising billionaires. It would make my day. Please reddit, put more gas on your dumpster fire
Or even better- force people on reddit to make mandatory posts praising billionaires
I’m pretty sure they already have bots that do that.
We will eventually have bots like that on lemmy and other federated networks too. It wasn’t long between the advent of email and spam email. (spam predates email – the term is from the BBS era…)
Thanks for the welcome wagon. This was the first post I clicked on. I feel like a boomer (I am not one) trying to understand the Fediverse even though I can understand how email works, somehow I can’t apply that to how it works here. Like am I supposed to be able to see Mastadon or Pixelfed content on here? What would that look like? Ok also had some weed tincture so that probably has something to do with my confusion. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Welcome!
Yea, you’ll see mastodon stuff from time to time, there’s nothing really that tells you it’s a mastodon post, they just look kinda different. For a mastodon post usually the giveaway is hashtags in the post like #hashtag except they’ll be links.
Pixelfed is supposed to show up too, but federation with Lemmy has yet to “kick in” (at least as far as I’ve noticed)
Also on Lemmy you can do ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ without any extra "" actually, here putting the extra 2 backslashes makes you lose your arm
It’s actually really nice, now I can ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ right from my phone keyboard lmfao ¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯¯\_( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)_/¯¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Ok here’s another question. How does this exist financially, who pays for servers and whatnot? Believe you me I am so glad not to be assaulted by ads and whatnot but isn’t this expensive?
Donations for server costs. Apparently each user costs a little over 1 dollar a year, hosting-wise. Reminds me of how one site I use for checking stuff in pokemon sleep, how-many-more.com, said in a reddit post from the owner that they don’t even take donations because the cost of running it is absolutely miniscule and that you should absolutely question people who want upkeep money for largely text-based stuff like that.
It’s not actually all that expensive to host websites, it never has been, sh.itjust.works a larger instance with something like 1.5k posts and comments/day only spends about $150/month
A bid cost saving is not using the “cloud”, cloud services do what they advertise (mainly allow one to “easily” scale up to millions of users), but its costly.
But the beauty of it is that because Lemmy is decentralized, not one person/org has to worry about scaling to millions of users as the Lemmy-verse grows so hosters can skip the cloud
Some pay out of pocket and some take the ways of the forums of ol, donations and small perks for donating. For example, having a db0 account and being a donator gains you voting rights. There’s been talk about private/VIP comms for donators as well
We discuss costs here.
As long as you shop around for a good hosting deal you don’t need everyone to donate to cover the costs.
Remember the block function!
I’ve been browsing Lemmy for 2ish months, went ahead and made an account just recently. Deleted my Reddit account last week and I’m chuffed.
Reddit is now uninstalled on all of my devices
So they’re finally admitting to being a propaganda machine for the us government.
Reddit is basically a ship with a captain and crew that hates all of the passengers and vice versa.
We just have to look nice for the ones who swim over to our ship.
