Robert F. Kennedy Jr., independent challenger for president and anti-vaccine activist, has a cockamamie solution for drug addicts and people who use medication for depression or ADHD: strip people of their tech gadgets and send them to government-funded "wellness farms" to grow organic food. Doesn't that sound suspiciously... like a labor camp?! Kennedy extolled this […]
So how would they deal with sabotors that just ruin crop. Do they give them their meds back?
They’ll threaten the people you love if you don’t comply.
Look around at other places that do this kind of thing. You don’t think they’ve thought about that already? There’s a story floating around about a dude in a similar situation who didn’t meet the quota (or something), and they cut off his little kid’s hand as punishment.
Exactly. Getting people to work when in involuntary servitude is a solved problem. You can research some of the history of what methods were used to get African slaves to work, especially in the early colonial Caribbean colonies, if you really want to lose faith in humanity.
It was actually a quite difficult problem from the slaver’s perspective. You kidnap some guy from the coast of West Africa. You take him from his family, haul him across an ocean, and force him to work against his will on a sugar plantation on a Caribbean island. You offer him no way out and instruct him he’s to work as hard as he can until he keels over and dies. He gets nothing from his work, and he has no way to earn or buy his freedom. Oh, and he doesn’t think he did anything to deserve this treatment either.
Exactly what motivation does this man have to work for you exactly? Early on, in these slave colonies, the slavers found that many abducted people would simply refuse to eat and starve themselves to death. The inescapability of their predicament meant that the slaves couldn’t even hold out hope for eventual rescue or escape. It would be like if you were abducted by aliens and hauled off to a planet in another galaxy. There’s simply no way you’re escaping and getting back home. So many slaves would simply refuse to work and just starve themselves to death.
Eventually the slavers did figure out ways to coerce slaves into working. And those methods are as bad, and probably even worse, than you can imagine.
Not to mention they literally invented a disease to explain how slaves that tried to or successfully escaped were suffering from an illness that made them not want to be enslaved.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drapetomania
I wonder if there was ever a sufficient overlap in the dubious diagnoses that someone was diagnosed simultaneously with both drapetomania and hysteria.
… Yeah this is real world and Stanford prison experiment was just role play that ended in humiliation
Yep. That experiment was cut short after only, what, a week? Turns out if you give people unchecked power over others, it might turn sour. Luckily someone had a spine and ended it.
Well, it’s voluntary (the title is misleading), so they’d probably just tell you to leave.
Or get arrested and put into involuntary servitude, with threats of torture and other unimaginable things.
Y’all wanna pretend that this isn’t that dangerous. The fact that they’re even floating this idea is terrifying.
You already can be put into involuntary servitude if convicted.
It’s strange to me that anyone would find this terrifying relative to the actual fucked up shit they’re doing and saying. Like, the fact that they’re banning medications people depend on is legitimately terrifying. The idea that they’re secretly plotting to force everyone into labor camps isn’t really, because it’s pure speculation based on nothing. There’s no need to focus on the speculative threat when the real threat is already so significant, if anything, it detracts from the severity of what’s actually happening.
Both of those concepts are not mutually exclusive.
My family is directly affected by RFK’s “ideas”. Not to make the prison labor a “lesser” issue; the issue is that they’re floating the idea of targeting people who depend on those meds at all, as if they’ve done something wrong.
But the point is that they’re not doing that. They haven’t said anything about punative measures for those meds, that part is pure speculation.
What isn’t speculation is that these rehab centers are being used as an alternative to justify banning medications. That’s bad enough without having to get into speculation.
This is how the Holocaust actually got started. It’s much more sinister than people realize. They didn’t go straight to labor camps on day 1. They started “othering” groups they didn’t like, just by words. Until they started to justify banning and legislating them out of the public eye, to appease the now-fearful public. They started getting arrested for simply existing in the wrong places, and that’s when the labor camps started.
That process started in 1933. And the people in charge are mirroring this dangerously close.
I have a family to look after and ensure their future (what little of it may be left). If you don’t like what I have to say, then we are clearly on opposite sides of the fence, so do us both a favor and fucking block me.
What have they said that otherizes people taking SSRIs? I genuinely haven’t seen it, other than taking actions to ban the meds, which is exactly what I’ve been saying should be the focus, as opposed to baseless speculation about forced labor.
I understand that this is an important issue for you, but all I’m doing to correcting misinformation. The seriousness of the situation is all the more reason why accurate information is important. I have no idea why you think I’m “on the opposite side of the fence” just because I think we should focus on what’s actually happening and being said.
They don’t need to say anything. People who take antidepressants already deal with the stigma of “being broken” (source: most women in my life, including my daughter). All that needs to happen is for RFK to continue doing exactly what he doing right fucking now.
There are people out there who would go out of their way to ensure that any perceived-but-not-said-outright “obedience” is happening. These orders and press releases are empowering those people. This is incredibly and intentionally dangerous territory and it needs to be called out for what it is.
It’s good to call that out, but I also paid attention in history class. What is happening right now is the beginning stages of every genocidal movement in history.
Plea bargain agreements are always “voluntary.” Because the alternative is almost always going to be worse.