Out of all of the shit Trump is doing, this is the least consequential. Trans people are dying because they can’t get medical care, immigrants are being sent to a concentration camp in Guantanamo Bay, Trump is planning to level Gaza… but let’s talk about a name on a map.
Lots of people are talking about all of it. To me this is positioning for expansionism. Less important right now for sure though
It shows like this for me?? does anyone know why??
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The place to protest this isn’t Google.
We need to have everyone propose a name change to the official body in charge of place names, the US Board on Geographic Names.
Unfortunately, one of the rules on name changes is “Changing a name merely to correct or re-establish historical usage is not in and of itself a reason to change a name.”
On the other hand, they also say “The most important consideration is local use and acceptance,” so the sooner we act, the better.
First off fuck trump
But my hot take is that google should show it as gulf of america and remove holidays from the calendar. Google should be a source of fact and the fact is the Republican administration has officially renamed the gulf of Mexico and removed those as federally recognized holidays.
Google shouldn’t be “protesting”, the blame here is on the US government. I dont want Google’s “opinion” on things when I search. Be mad at Google when they also refuse to do black history doodles on their front page (like, right now I think)
You’re missing the part where Trump has no authority to do any of that.
And yet he does with no consequences because of the Republican administration (and frankly, the non-progressive Democrats). It’s not Google’s job to be a check on the government. If the US government department that manages natural landmark names has that set in their records, that’s what should be reported.
So your entire point is discredited and all you can do is point fingers. By having even an ounce of self respect and just saying no would help end all this. Google and Apple are not beholden to this administration unless they want to be.
By your logic we should all load ourselves onto the trains willingly because they said so and, after all, we don’t want to get “political”
The real solution is to resist and not roll over. Pretending that act is anything other than resignation is s denying the truth of what is happening.
I still think the name is apt, as “America” refers to the entire super-continent, North and South.
In accordance with the more appropriate name for the great Gulf, I hereby propose that all Mexicans become also known as Americans, and all people from the United States henceforth become known as “USians”.
I further propose this confer full, nay, enhanced US citizenship to all Americans. If they even want that shit anymore.
Is it like this for everyone?
Yeah pretty much
Seems to depend where you’re located. US here:
It is for me in Europe
This caused me to delete Google Maps, but their removal of Black History month from Google Calendar is what’s making me contemplate migrating everything else away from them…
If you can, add a 1-star review in Play Store for Google Maps while you’re at it. And a comment why.
I did the commenting, they deleted my review for “politics”.
I started last week. Been contemplating doing it for a while and this whole disgusting series of events pushed me over the edge.
Cancelled every paying google services I had and I’ve been replacing their apps with alternatives slowly but surely.
For now it looks like this on my phone
- Tidal replaces youtube music
- Tom Tom replaced Waze unless I find something better
- Back to using firefox instead of chrome with google / Facebook tracking blocking extensions and more
- Got a proton mail and in the process of moving everything that matters to it
Only thing I would love that I can’t get right now is an alternative OS for my phone that I don’t have to tinker a lot with, I know rhey exist but everything I read on the subject basically says: don’t bother. Setting up Endeavour OS on my laptop is already a lot of work for a 42 year old Linux noob like me, even though it’s far from the most complicated distro from what I understand…
I also set another launcher on my smart tv, deactivated all the google accounts that I could and I’m in the process of setting up a plex server on my laptop which I’ll fill with loot from the High Seas. It’s really stupid of them because I was fine paying for the convenience of streaming but now I’m gonna make a point of not doing it and I’ll probably never gonna come back.
Next, I need to figure out how to migrate my website / domain out of google but that’s a next week problem. By the end of the winter, I should be properly google / Microsoft free.
It’s a harsh process I’m not gonna lie but it is very rewarding even though, I don’t lie to myself about the fact that it’s just another drop in the bucket and it’s not gonna change much in the end but at least I live better with myself by doing it.
There’s some recent controversy with proton mail. And I thought Google domains was sold to squarespace?
Ah damn… What’s good then? I’m not too far in my setup that I can’t make a switch again.
And yeah you’re right, Google domain is squarespace but my whole setup is using their tools and I also want to move everything out of the usa, preferably to Canada as I’m Canadian but I’ll settle for Europe when nothing is available here.
Same, I wish I could do this for work, as we use G Suite :(. Times like these make me appreciate open source alternatives though, but there’s a lot of work to make those tools more widely available.
Organic Maps is cool.
Any coders want to instantly have one of the most popular extensions for firefox, chrome, etc? It seems this would be the type of thing that would be relatively easy for an extension/add-on to fix.
Unfortunately probably not so easy. Maps is canvas I think, so it’s very hard to “intercept” the name. If Maps were rendered via SVG, and if the Gulf always has the same ID, then it could be possible.
OpenStreet maps 😎
I just downloaded it, and I have to say it’s pretty rough compared with Google maps. There’s no traffic data, and it struggles to even find basic things like sushi restaurants that are clearly labeled if you search for sushi. Let alone difficult things like doctor’s offices.
Downloaded what though? OpenStreetMap is just a data source. There are a number of different maps that use it.
I haven’t used it in awhile but I think Magic Earth has traffic data, I’m not sure where it’s sourced from but the map data they use is from OSM.
That singlehandedly caused me to begin actively moving away from Google starting yesterday. Gonna be a pain in the ass, but I’m working on it.
My interim e-mail solution is mailbox.org. Trying a 30-day free trial and annoyed at having to pay, but fuck it. It’s cheap. Like $1-$3/month. Will see.
I’m assuming OpenStreetMaps has an app and plan to check today.
I’ve started decluttering/backing up my Drive and Photos so that I can unsubscribe from their recently-changed shit subscription structure without losing essential files.
Organic Maps is the recommendation I’ve been seeing for OSM. I’ve been using it for a week or so and have been liking it so far.
Same, really want to switch, and I think after finishing this project I’m done with windows and Google. Not gonna lie, I dread switching agenda, drive, mail, maps… A lot of fucking useful stuff that I use for everything, but I don’t just want to think they are too big to fail. Fuck their behaviour.
I’m in a similar situation. Not to make the switch harder on you, but someone here posted a page with a bunch of reviews of email providers, calling out things like cost, privacy practices, and cooperation with the federal government. Here’s their entry on mailbox.org. You might want to read through some of them while you’re still in the free trial.
Of course. Ugh. Thank you for the resource.
Where can I find a sexy russian mommy to dump gallons of milk down my throat until my tummy explodes sending a creamy tsunami down the hillside killing everyone in its way.
I actually know the answer to this, but don’t need the added competition.
Y’know it costs nothing to not post that right?
Was it worth nothing or priceless?
My day was simultaneously both ruined and made far more exciting for the existence of that comment. So maybe net-0? I suppose in a roundabout way you could say you’re solving climate change!
Less than nothing, it made the world a worse place.
I don’t think it would kill everyone on the way down, I’m sure a large percentage of innocent gawkers would end up getting tsunami down their own throats until secondary tsunamis, (“two-namis”) eject across the entire shire
Like a dreamy milky fission of burst tummies.
As all things should be
She looks like Emma Roberts
No, don’t use the sexy meme template for this change. It’s just a dumb dick measuring move. It doesn’t deserve that honor.
The tuba meme would be appropriate.
I was curious about Open Street Maps, since anyone can edit it.
Gulf of America comes up specifically as an official name for US, and there is also a note about how if you change the English name without agreement in the discussion then it will be reverted:
Discussion is here: https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/gulf-of-america-gulf-of-mexico/124571
It seems the general consensus is that the US have that as an official name, but it’s not the common English name so name:en stays as the Gulf of Mexico.
I was very happy to open up organic maps and see it still listed as Mexico.
I’m still trying to get out of Google maps.
OSM ftw
Even the german language version does this now.
How long until the US pull a China and attack mexican fishing boats?
Google has had to deal with disputed place names a number of times.
There’s the Sea of Japan which has the parenthesized name “East Sea”, which I think is only used in Korea.
There’s the Persian Gulf sometimes known as the Arabian gulf.
There’s the Falkland Islands which the Argentinians refer to as Islas Malvinas.
What’s really dumb about this is that it goes directly against the old policy (from 2008) where they said:
When our policy says that we display the “primary, common, local” names for a body of water, each of those three adjectives has an important and distinct meaning. By saying “primary”, we aim to include names of dominant use, rather than having to add every conceivable local nickname or variation. By saying “common”, we mean to include names which are in widespread daily use, rather than giving immediate recognition to any arbitrary governmental re-naming. In other words, if a ruler announced that henceforth the Pacific Ocean would be named after her mother, we would not add that placemark unless and until the name came into common usage.
But, the Gulf of “America” is not in common usage anywhere. Canada should see only “Gulf of Mexico”, even though it shares a language with the country that officially renamed it to “Gulf of America”. And in particular Germany shouldn’t see anything about “Amerika” because that’s just not a thing in any German-speaking country.
Really, it should be Gulf of America (Gulf of Mexico) in the US and whatever the local name is everywhere else.
They’ve disabled posting too:
I was crucified when I compared the two on an authoritarian leftist instance I shall not name, but I think people here can agree that despite having very different colours and propaganda, they both are both converging with the facist side of the spectrum.
