I don’t know. Part of me thinks even though I don’t want to. That a majority of people are just evil, and aligned with evil as part of their own morality. I hope it isn’t true. I don’t want to believe it’s true.
Idk about most people but most Americans are definitely evil
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These movies are not exactly subtle about which side is the “good guys” and which side is the “bad guys”.
Who do you side with in a much more ambiguous movie like Apocalyspe Now or Sicario?
Or, if you’re like most movie watchers, you watched Zero Dark Thirty and sided with the American commandos. You watched The Hurt Locker and sided with the American bomb disposal experts. You watched Argo and sided with the CIA.
I’d guess there are a lot more pro-American movies where the typical audience sides with the Americans than there are anti-fascist movies where the audience sides with antifa. In fact, a lot of people who watched Starship Troopers didn’t get that it was an anti-fascist movie at all and took it all at face value siding with the humans against the aliens.
Exactly, people are constantly bombarded with pro-imperialist propaganda from the entire MSM spectrum, and no one is immune to propaganda. The media still don’t call the genocide in Palestine a genocide, they wrote fuck all about East Timor compared to the similar violence in Cambodia that was committed by the “bad guys”, we’re inundated with “BuT aT wHaT coST”-style headlines about the designated enemy state du jour. How is anyone supposed to make heads or tails of any of this without spending a significant amount of time actually educating themselves on what is going on and unlearning the years and years of western propaganda they’ve had to endure?
Try forming a decent opinion while watching star wars with every scene interspersed with talking heads explaining to you exactly why the rebels are terrorists and that the empire is just defending itself. Also you don’t get to see any scene from the perspective of the rebels. Did you know the jedi put babies in ovens?
TBF, I was like 14 when Starship Troopers came out and it wasn’t until the hormones wore off that I realized there was a message in that film that wasn’t boobs and bug guts. #teamdizzy
Real life is not like fiction. If you fuck up in irl you end up dead or in prison
Everyone wants to talk a big game. But, most people don’t want that fight.
There’s a selection bias in effect, on several fronts.
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People who want a fight may not actually know who they are fighting or why. Consequently, you get a bunch of idiots and assholes piling into ICE or enlisting in the US military, because they’ve been pickled on reactionary propaganda and convinced this will liberate them from the Liberal Fascism that Jonah Goldberg told them they were living under.
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People who fight and lose aren’t around to keep fighting. They end up in prisons or hospitals or broke or dead. You don’t see them doing anything to fight actively anymore.
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Tons of resistance efforts and opposition organizing goes totally unreported. In part this is a form of government/corporate censorship, shaped by the priorities of reactionary national media. In part, there simply isn’t anything “newsworthy” to report. Who is going to tune into the “Minutes of the most recent Food Not Bombs” organizing event? Who is going to subscribe to a newspaper dedicated to covering street-corner protests and the sermons of local church groups and the odd Facebook meetup of twelve enthusiastic but aimless wanna-be activists?
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Opposition is expensive and not terribly profitable. Getting a higher profile requires materials and labor. If you don’t have them, we don’t see you. By contrast, going with the establishment (or the Loyal Opposition) can be both lucrative and status-raising. Easier to be a Megan McArdle or Dana Milbank writing for the Liberal Moderate Sensible Resistance than an Ashton P. Woods or Kat Abughazaleh, running outsider campaigns entirely on local profiles and raw charisma.
In the end, its easy to assume opposition organizations and activists don’t exist simply because you’re not in a position to see them. It’s easy to feel like you’re part of an organization that’s operating as a lonely last hold out, because you’re in a dark forest of misinformation and occluded dissent.
Part of finding like-minded people has to be getting yourself out there to be seen. Going to rallies and mingling with people, going to large public events and keeping your eyes/ears open. Going to fucking Church - I know you’re going to say you hate it but I’m sorry, that’s where a lot of organizing has always happened in this country and still does. A lot of it just means going out and meeting more people and making more friends.
Shit is happening you can’t see. Shit is happening that you’ll never know about. That’s the nature of any resistance movement. The French Resistance wasn’t doing block walks and Pride Parades in the middle of the German Occupation. The NAACP spent a long time organizing in basements before it became a cohesive national group. We’ve still got a significant portion of our LGBTQ population that has to “come out of the closet”, because it’s extremely hazardous to your physical, mental, and financial well-being to be queer before you turn 30.
It’s easy to feel like you’re part of an organization that’s operating as a lonely last hold out, because you’re in a dark forest of misinformation and occluded dissent.
Very much this. As was said in Andor:
"Random acts of insurrection are occurring constantly throughout the galaxy. There are whole armies, battalions that have no idea that they’ve already enlisted in the cause.
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward."
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But if you fuck up in fiction, your series can get cancelled.
If you, the author, fuck up, yes. But characters fuck up all the time and shows are extremely popular as a result. Look at Breaking Bad!
And if you are in a minority group, they will all be punished as well.
Morpheus explains it to Neo in the movie
You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it.
The word “matrix” comes from old french “matrice” meaning “womb”.
What the FUCK
This is some 14andThisIsDeep ngl
I get the sentiment but this is called an appeal to fiction. It really isn’t sound logic
“Appeal to fiction” is not an argument fallacy when the discussion is about IRL events, even if using fictional stories as a tool. Appeals to fiction are about written fictional stories and the events within them.
That said,
Making the choice that your fictional heroes are the ones fighting an obviously bad opponent yet in real life deciding to support an antagonist that is directly relatable to the fictional ones really is mental gymnastics and hypocritical.
Unless they secretly side with the Empire and just lie to everyone that their hero is on the Rebel side.
We see it, there just isn’t a “resistance” to join that plans to do anything remotely close to those movies.
Yeah, that’s the point. The resistance in movies is always a very professional, single-minded and effective operation with perfect logistics and a common goal. It’s easy to imagine being a part of such an “activist power fantasy” where everything is smooth sailing until the world revolution while getting cheered on all the way.
While IRL activism and organizing is messy and tedious. It’s hard to feel like a hero when the political landscape is a confusing mess, there is no clear strategy on what to do next and the group you joined can’t agree on when to do the next coffee break.
perfect
Someone hasn’t seen Andor nor Rogue One!
Or basically ANY movie with a resistance… They’re either established by powers that seek change over decades and thetegore have had time to figure things out, or they’re woefully under supplied.
Also real life examples of resistance movements being coordinated in short amounts of time are apparently irrelevant, too.
Incidentally, one of my favorite WW2 movies is Anthropoid about the Czech resistance… If any of this topic interests any readers at all, don’t look up anything about it; go in blind! It’s free to library card holders on Kanopy.
The resistance in movies is always a very professional, single-minded and effective operation
You are highlighting another point: the resistance in these movies is not professional at all but you believe it is because the heroes forcing their way into the enemy headquarters with all odds against them are professional, good looking, trained actors with a full movie studio working beside them.
True…we need a resistance.
Hear hear
Also here and here.
yes there is lol. there are many of them, communists are everywhere.
I’ve never seen a communist on Lemmy.ml. Just a bunch or propaganda ;)
and we are both commenting under propaganda. ;)
The PSL’s mission is explicitly stated to create a vanguard party to lead a revolution in the US. Obviously they’re a long way off, but don’t say nobody is organizing resistance.
Vanguard parties always angle for dictatorships and put anarchists who aren’t compliant up against a wall after a successful revolution, history has taught us this time and time again. The PSL are authoritarians and not to be trusted.
True. But the anarchists never have the organisational power to win the revolution. So how do we fix that?
History has shown Anarchists are very capable of organizational power. The Russian revolution itself likely would not have succeeded without the significant military contributions from the Ukrainian Anarchists, but after the Whites were mostly defeated, the Marxist-Leninists betrayed the Anarchists to consolidate power, depicting them as bandits and counter-revolutionary, executing or imprisoning any who did not successfully flee.
Anarchists also demonstrated their organizational abilities in Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War (effectively organizing more than 3 million people). Once again, they were betrayed by Marxist-leninists (this time mid-war), which contributed to the defeat of the revolution, among other factors, such as particularly overwhelming logistical support for Franco from Mussolini and Hitler, while the Anarchists had no allies on the world stage.
Well, that’s the thing, the MLs were able to successfully do this both times, by out-organising the anarchists in the area of being devious backstabbing assholes. Anarchists have to learn how to fight properly on that field, and win. They cannot rely entirely on their superior ability to feed the people and otherwise supply their needs in a crisis.
I think this is definitely something anarchists could be great at. Their recent success against ICE in Minneapolis is a prime example. However, winning a battle is one thing, winning the war requires a strategic approach, which can be very difficult for anarchist organisation.
I think we differ in how we define organizing. I see it as the ability to effectively organize large groups of people, logistics, supplies, or military responses. I would not consider ‘Out backstabbing the backstabbers’ as under the label ‘organizing’, that’s more of a tactics thing. I also don’t think anarchists should participate in backstabbing at all, as that reduces trust in the whole effort, IMHO, and it doesn’t seem likely that a large anarchist collective would agree via consensus to do such a thing.
Anarchists in 1918 didn’t automatically assume their anti-capitalist allies would betray them in that manner, it was up to that point unprecedented in history (though predicted by Mikhail Bakunin). Anarchists the world over supported the Russian revolution until they visited the USSR (such as Emma Goldman) and it became apparent that it was becoming a new state dictatorship. This was a learning event that showed MLs cannot be trusted despite their appeals of leftist unity.
The Anarchists were fully aware of this betrayal by 1936 in Catalonia, but the circumstances were dire enough to begrudgingly ally with them once more, as the USSR was the only country in the world with the already existing productive capacity and willingness to supply the revolution with needed logistics and heavier weaponry such as tanks and artillery.
It was no fault of Anarchist organizing that those logistics were needed, it was just circumstance that Catalonia did not have any tank manufacturing set up before-hand (something that can take years to do), and that their enemy was stronger than it normally would’ve been at that point in time.
There is nothing they realistically could’ve done to ‘out organize’ the MLs, as organization was not the issue. The issue is that the MLs were an enemy, but they were the enemy of another enemy (the fascists), and the lack of logistical help from the outside world left them with the options of trying to fight both enemies at once, or hope that they can first defeat the fascists before needing to defend against the inevitable ML betrayal. The fact that the MLs ultimately chose to betray mid-fight with the fascists was likely pretty unexpected, since it didn’t really make sense for them to do so in that moment in time (since it made the MLs lose too).
Thanks to those events, we know now it’s probably best to never ally with ML’s under almost any circumstances, even dire ones, and going forward we can avoid those mistakes.
Let’s put aside all the historical revisionism you’re spewing, where’s your alternative? What group are you suggesting we should join to build resistance? Oh right, you don’t have any solutions.
Dude is definitely a CIA shill.
Links to Anarchist Library article (in an Anarchist community), gets called CIA shill
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But for anyone else reading, here’s a handy guide on other ways to get involved that not only materially help our situation, but also reduces the feeling of helplessness and despair dramatically, and you’ll likely meet some friends along the way.
Part 1: The big picture
The protests are good ways of meeting like-minded people in your community to form connections, as well as spreading awareness of local mutual aid groups so more can join or form ICE resistance groups who can join an encrypted chat to coordinate, alert neighbors, and talk strategy. It also is a good place for unions or union members to encourage others to unionize their workplaces, which can also ultimately work toward a national general strike, which is our most tangible and powerful collective action.
The country would be brought to its knees if suddenly deprived of profit and labor, allowing us to directly demand real changes (such as ending the war in Iran, ceasing support for the genocide of Palestine, and Abolishing ICE).
The General Strike was extremely effective in Chile in 2019, and had they not fallen for the trick of liberal reform, they would’ve had a successful revolution on their hands with virtually no bloodshed.
Part 2: Learn First Aid
Violence is being used against those who resist and it will only continue. It extremely important to have the skills to be able to keep yourself and others alive if they get hurt.
Tacticool Girlfriend provides a great introduction to building a personal first aid kit, called an IFAK, which can deal with things like bullet wounds and other serious bleeding wounds. I also want to emphasize her recommendation of only buying medical gear from reputable sources (not Amazon!), such as North American Rescue to avoid fakes that could cost you your life.
But you’ll need to learn how to use that equipment, too. The best resource for that is to take a local Stop The Bleed class, which are pretty widely available in most places. They may cost a small fee, but can also sometimes be free. Alternatively, if you cannot access a local class, this video by PrepMedic will give you a solid understanding of how to use Tourniquets and Gauze for wound packing.
Injuries are less harmful if they are tended to early. Learning first aid can help conserve resources when healthcare becomes unaffordable. Having several medics in case of harm by police is an extremely powerful morale booster during a protest that may become a police riot. When you become comfortable with the basics of first aid, riot medicine is the next suggested step.
Part 3: Establish or join local Mutual Aid networks
If you haven’t already, get to know your neighbors. Mutual aid is a willingness to support and grow your community. This can include informal networks through friends, tenant/renter organizations, solidarity groups, and industrial unions.
These are groups using direct action to solve each other’s problems. Building strong communities makes it difficult for fascism to take root. The actions of the government are going to hit every community hard, and the ones who build trust in each other and work together are most likely to survive. We’ve been building a list of resources in !inperson@slrpnk.net to help you on your way. Also check out this handy guide to find existing groups in your area.
This isn’t only for your own community protection. Your ability to organize today will change the political landscape tomorrow. When revolution occurs, the social organizations that show the greatest resilience through the regime are the ones typically calling the shots when the dust settles. When it comes to elections, get out the vote drives are useless if most of the voters are fascists. At some point, you have to do grassroots political education if you don’t want fascist candidates winning elections. Mutual aid networks are excellent forums not only for teaching each other good political ideas, but demonstrating them in practice.
There’s also some projects you can do that help build community (and can be fun in themselves!), for more info, go here, and scroll down to the “Fun Projects to Build Community) section”
Part 4: Join a Union to help prepare for a General Strike
If you aren’t in a union (or even if you are, it’s worth dual-carding), consider joining the IWW to unionize your workplace (bonus: you’ll get higher wages, better benefits, and more time off if you succeed!) to make a general strike possible.
Once you are in a union you and your coworkers will need to pressure your leadership to prepare for a general strike, as well as pressure them to organize with other unions to enact a general strike. This is especially true if you are in a more traditional union that isn’t the IWW. Your local shop may need to organize directly with other unions if your union leaders are too cowardly to do so.
Most unions have a strike fund that can supplement your income during a general strike to make it more financially bearable (you should also save as much money as you can reasonably do, so it can also be used to keep yourself afloat during a strike). A General Strike is officially planned by the UAW for May 1st 2028, but it was planned before Trump was elected, and by then will be too late, so prepare now for one that may start sooner.
You can contact the IWW with the link below:
And for our international friends, you should join one as well, as fascism is gaining momentum globally. If your country isn’t listed below, just contact the IWW directly in the link above, and they’ll help you set up a new local branch.
Part 5: Adopt Security Culture and Digital Camouflage
Sometimes benign seeming efforts can turn into unexpected personal data collecting traps. Like an obscure website for exchanging contact info with other students turning into a global ad-tech surveillance network (Facebook), or innocent seeming online personality tests being use to harvest character profiles. Even Etsy, Reddit, Tinder, and Duolingo are feeding information to US Government Agencies like ICE.
Security culture is commonly used to describe the general awareness of such potential traps and how it can affect groups or entire communities. This goes beyond mere individual privacy efforts, as without joint efforts these often fail to work.
Especially in activist circles, security culture is paramount. For opsec reasons not everyone in the group might be aware of what clandestine efforts others are involved in, but with a general security culture many potential data leaks can be avoided.
Movements are made by the volume of their participants, and the easier and less dangerous it is to participate, the more people will get involved. As more people get involved, individual involvement becomes even less dangerous, creating a virtuous cycle.
We’ll start it off with some General Advice:
- Mentally wall off personal uniquely identifying info from your online presence, actively build a habit of opsec so that withholding information is your default mental state
- Be careful about who you meet online
- Use different, unrelated usernames, passwords & emails for every account. And try not to connect to those accounts with your real IP address (use Tor or a VPN)
- Be mindful that anything done online leaves a trail
- agents provocateurs may seek to find patsies willing to perform an ill-advised illegal activity in order to legitimize police repression. If someone is trying to pressure you, especially if you don’t have a long and proven history with them, be extremely wary.
For a full guide on what encrypted communications platforms to use, and how to stay off the radar, read the Digital Camouflage section within the Monthly Meta post here (you’ll need to scroll down. I’d add it here, but it won’t fit in this comment).
I’d also highly recommend Full Spectrum Resistance to anyone who wants further info on how to resist (audiobook version here).
To be fair, the article he posts contains many suggestions to answer your question.
They started in 2004. Let’s just declare it dead at this point.
What a pessimistic view. In 2008, the PSL’s presidential candidate recieved 0.01% of the popular vote. In 2024, their candidate received 0.11%. That’s a 1000%+ increase in their votership in less than 20 years, while operating in a country where communism is illegal and the forces of capital spend billions of dollars on pro-capitalist propaganda each year. If anything, they are thriving more than ever.
Or do you think revolution happens overnight and can just spontaneously happen without any mass class consciousness amongst the people?
In 2008, the PSL’s presidential candidate recieved 0.01% of the popular vote. In 2024, their candidate received 0.11%. That’s a 1000%+ increase in their votership in less than 20 years
Political equivalent of this tweet:
Context is everything. And in this case, the context is the United States. If we were to translate it to that meme, the baby would have doubled in weight despite having thousands of ticks sucking their blood every second of their life. It would be a miracle the baby is still alive at all.
Bro, when a 1000% increase still leaves you a fucking ROUNDING ERROR, that is not really the win you think it is.
Ok, but the context is fucking America. The fact that this growth occurred at all is miraculous.
Wait, wtf is this electoral shit? What are they actually doing to cause the revolution?
Oh, their primary focus is building a vanguard party, but they engage with electoralism because Americans think that politics only exist during elections. They have to meet the people where they are at. You know, material conditions and all that.
It’s not a pessimistic view. It’s a realistic view. You sound like a pro-government shill sneaking their way into an anarchy group to calm everyone down.
We need something new. We also need fewer people who respond “well then you do it, har har har”
So an organization that is growing exponentially is dead. Right.
Honestly you are the one who sounds like a government shill, telling people to give up on existing organizations that are having great success.
Or maybe you are just expecting too much too soon. Which is not realism, but idealism.
I just know Americans aren’t going to do anything to help themselves. Go kill a billionaire. aFtEr yOu!
Enjoy the next century of right wing rulers in Merica. ✌️
Ok, so now you’re advocating for lone wolf terrorism? Get serious dude.
The RSDLP was founded in 1898, the Russian revolution happened 20 years after. The timescales aren’t dissimilar
It’s the funding. Toothpaste costs money. It’s too risky to keep stealing large quantities of toothpaste, but you have to live off the grid for years to do what they do in the movies. You can’t even expect to go back to a normal life after you accomplished your task. Could be they brand you a terrorist and you have to live in hiding forever. There are IRL examples for this.
Also keeping in mind that you can’t guarantee that what comes after the revolution will be any better. For instance, how many revolutions did the French have until they got to where they are now? How many of those revolutions left the country worse off until the next one?
There’s the saying “things will get worse before they get better”… that “worse” could be generations long.
People are too cowardly to start it because they fear social ostracization more than tyranny.
Sounds like you don’t see shit and are too lazy to inform yourself on the “resistance”
Full of shit. Organizing parades is less than nothing.
Show me.
This is the most Lemmy response ever. 🤣
Asks question on Lemmy, gets redirected to Lemmy.
we are the resistance
we are fucked.
What I found funnier is that these fictional people armed themselves. They violently opposed their oppressors. But many people are still brainwashed that peaceful protest, or single day protests, will end the oppressions.
You’re supposed to make your actions unavoidable to ignore. The oppressors has to consider you a threat to even begin dialogue.
None of those people live in a democracy. We do. If you overthrow a democratically elected tyrant, the demos who outnumber you will democratically install a new tyrant. The only way to solve the problem and make it last is by convincing the people, not by fisticuffs.
You need to read/watch Star Wars & The Matrix again. The majority democratically elected a tyrant with thunderous applause.
It ceased to be a democracy when he declared himself emperor for life. https://youtu.be/f2H4AI21tEs
And then it took another fifteen years for the Rebellion to go from disparate groups that fought each other as much as they fought the Empire to a united front.
And it worked, historically, and fictitiously.
You can’t vote your way out imperialism, you need to feverish oppose all forms of oppression. Whether at the ballot, and at a deathcamp.
#Landback when?
It did not work fictionally. Nobody supports rebels in a democracy. They are rooted out of their communities and punished as terrorists. Only when it was no longer a democracy did the rebellion work. The same is true historically. If the people being oppressed can vote for their rulers, violently attacking them instead always fails.
Yet Myanmar , Thailand , Nepal , and Spain uprooted their oppressors violently without democracy.
South Korea kept it’s democracy by taking the tyrant violently .It just seems the disconnect is plain old complacency.
Yet Myanmar ,
Myanmar wasn’t a democracy.
Thailand ,
This prime minister was removed by the court, not by violence.
Nepal , and
This is the only example you gave of a democratically elected official who was violently overthrown. I said that if you violently overthrow a democratically elected tyrant, the majority will simply democratically install a new tyrant. That’s exactly what happened in Bangladesh, with the same party being elected after it was violently removed. Nepal seems to be a vanishingly a rare counterexample. We’ll see how long that lasts.
Spain uprooted their oppressors violently without democracy.
Spain also wasn’t a democracy.
South Korea kept it’s democracy by taking the tyrant violently .
Also removed by the court, not by rebel violence.
It just seems the disconnect is plain old complacency.
No, if you violently remove a democratically elected official, that official will be democratically replaced with more of the same. Violence doesn’t magically change voters’ minds to agree with you.
The main reason is that while there are people who are willing to politically fight for the right thing, there are very few people who are willing to die for the right thing.
Luigi is one of those and even he has affluence.
We need 100+ Luigi’s before we see the average person willing to risk their life.
Think about it this way: what would happen right now if Luigi were to die by the state? If he can’t usher systematic change, what chance does my life have?
This isn’t just online. While I’m not going to openly talk about what forms of resistance my local group has taken on, very few people are willing to do more than what we’ve been doing and it’s frustrating.
Trump and the GOP are literally running the fascism playbook and we only have a few more chapters left until he has the ability to fully dismantle democracy.
If he does dismantle democracy, then you will see people fight. You wouldn’t want to end up in jail or dead if the majority support him and will just install a new fascist in his place. You would have wasted your life for nothing. Your group would have more impact if it educated voters instead.
I think there are mainly two reasons for this:
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In fiction, you’re simply not personally affected, so you don’t have to face any adversity or negative consequences. It costs nothing to see yourself as part of the revolutionary movement, and you don’t put yourself in danger.
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Apparently, many people simply don’t want to admit what monsters their leaders really are, even though it’s actually obvious. This is the result of decades of propaganda, I think: The U.S., for example, has always seen itself as the friendly superpower that brings freedom and democracy to the world. Now that it is obvious even to the biggest idiot that this has always been a lie - since the regime has abandoned the facade - people are looking for other explanations to maintain the worldview they have long held to be true - such as the excuse that the current U.S. president is being controlled by evil forces from other countries (Russia/Israel) and therefore does not represent his own, indeed so righteous, country at all.
Listen as cypher groans about life in the resistance. Constant fear and anxiety from the bots, shitty food bricks etc. We all like to pretend we are tough as nails and can take any hardships, that attitude changes quickly, especially when you can see and even manipulate the alternative life in the matrix.
I think there was a point where cypher wanted to fight and be a genuine part of the resistance, the stress eventually got to him. How many “chosen ones” before neo did he see come and die? Eventually it seems hopeless and he could probably game the matrix just right to have a good, albeit artifical, life for himself. It would be like having an option to go back in time and buy amazon/apple/nividia stocks at just the right moment.
Resistance is often painted as easier than it is. It sugar coats the losses. It makes losing 25 people to kill 5 agressors a “victory”. The actors stay fit and strong even if their characters are getting 1 meal a day.
Seriously, thank you. Those who are puzzled why everyday middle class Americans aren’t rushing to join an anarchist revolution ought to look at how the resistance is has been going in Iran this year, even before the US attacked.
Middle class Americans may struggle to afford the things they had a few decades ago, but they’re still a long way from willing to risk sniper fire in the day and bombings at night.
A good friend of mine is Palestinian and he spent time in Syria during the war. He told me what it was like to have bombs going off near his house. To have pieces of shrapnel fly past his face and embed themselves into the wall. He lives here in Canada now. He wants nothing to do with fighting in wars. He just wants to make a life for himself and his family.
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Most people in all of those stories just tried to live their lives. The story follows the few that didn’t.
In real life, even if there is a resistance, the connection between those that could join/assist and the general populace, is blocked by a constant surveillance and enforcement state. When groups start to form, they’re arrested because the act of organizing draws attention to them. Think of all the ‘terrorist’ groups you know. You know about them, because they organized. Which put a target on them. Which is also what ends most resistance groups.
well, reality is simply more complicated than fiction.
in reality there is no clear good guys and bad guys. if you see it that way then you are absolutely oversimplifying something.
there can be victims and aggressors, but that doesn’t make the victims “good guys”. for example, i actually despise so much of what the Palestinian government represents, and yet, they are undeniably the victims. that does not make them good guys.
that concept is too much for most people to contend with. many people, especially conservatives, never grew out of needing everything to be cast in black and white. they can see someone kicked and abused and denigrated their whole life, and still only see them as “bad” for escaping that torment with drugs.
unfortunately there are many resistance movements i could join right now in america, but they’re all the wrong kind. they are confederate wannabes that just want the chance to shoot gay and brown people.
if life were a simple as “join the resistance” being generally good advice i would need to be a screaming racist homophobe to do it. i think I’d honestly prefer being killed by the fascists.
There are absolutely some very clear bad guys in this world, and our history. Most people don’t fall in that category, doesn’t mean they don’t exist.
the point is more that entire nations or peoples can’t be unilaterally good or bad. imperialism is bad. it is evil. it is a rot upon this world. the real empires that actually did it were largely ancient cultures that existed long before and continue to exist today. to say that Japan is evil for their ww2 era imperialism and that nothing else counts would be an incredibly reductive and cynical worldview.
real people are also complicated.
don’t forget that you only ever know any of these leaders public images. you don’t actualy know what they are like. I’m sure there are people in your life who you make excuses for because they are meaningful to you.
ceaser was incredibly beloved for plundering his neighbors and giving that wealth directly to his people. he did so much good and so much bad. to try and cast all of those things into a single word is madness.
ultimately, i just don’t agree with one word descriptions of things as broad as people and cultures. there’s always more to it. people can be selfish, greedy, caring, helpful, many many things, but “bad” and “good” are just too simple to actualy mean anything more than “i do/dont like them”
There are bad guys like neitanyahu, but most people are not that bad
i’ve watched slave wars and sided with master of this gym to corrupt his mind and watch even bigger amounts of slaves slaughtering each other, drawning this world in pussy juice in the name of da great bitch cunt goddess of big black tree many of you saw in dreams because of fsb constantly microwaving synapses with radio ~holocaust never really fucking ended~ waves, which give immediate wet erection to commie-nazis, while at the same time slowly killing them [99,9% of all documented cases].
Also i’ve watched infinity train (on rule34) and liked it a lot. Looking for cool movies to watch.
I watched Avatar The Legend of Korra, but I didn’t side with the resistance.
What people don’t understand is that by siding with the resistance in the movies, you get a little dose of the same chemicals you’d get if you sided with the resistance in real life. Enough so that you feel satisfied in your quest for righteousness, and are more likely to be passive in your real world life.
We are, as a species, all still too used to believing that the shadows on the cave wall are reality.
