Some comrades over at Hexbear have organized a donation drive for Palestine and, over the past few weeks, have managed to raise over $1500 for verified Palestinian fundraisers. The fediverse is a good place full of good people.

  • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
    8022·
    2 months ago

    Let me know when they’ll do a fundraiser for Ukraine…

    Edit: the tankies are here to brigade this thread… someone lit the fires of hexbear lol

    • Endgame@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      Ukraine is still beating Russia back even after Trump cut their funding. Palestinians are the most defenseless people on Earth.

      What the hell kind of point are you even trying to make here?

      • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6012·
        2 months ago

        Are three fundraisers for Palestine not good enough for you? I don’t think this is the correct community or post to expose such animosity, this fundraiser is a good thing for people who are suffering under Isntreals thumb and I believe that should be the focus: if you want to own hexbears epic style, the best way to do so would be to organize your own fundraiser outside hexbear for Palestinians.

        That’s not the point, it’s great they’re doing something good but they spread intolerance via propaganda from authoritarian countries.

        In my experience, hexbears have no animosity towards Ukrainians. I don’t want to get political because this is not the appropriate comm for this, you can disagree with the geopolitical analysis of the situation with hexbears but they surely don’t want Ukrainians thrown into a meat grinder (nor Russians for that matter) and have no animosity for Ukrainians as a people, in a similar way to how many people criticise the Iranian government’s policy without hating on Iranian people.

        You must be blind then, because.ml and hexbear are both massive voices on Ukraine being filled with Nazis and it should be wiped out and returned to russia. The only reason they hate what Israel is doing is because Israel is backed by the west, which they hate.

        Would you be here saying how great it is for a white supremacists group raising funds for something? Probably not.

        Tolerance of the intolerant must not be allowed.

        • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
          718·
          2 months ago

          They’re horrible because they disagree with the amount of Nazis in Ukraine?

          What percentage of Nazis in Ukraine would you consider “tolerant”, when does the switch flip from “tolerant” to “intolerant”?

          Everyone gets called Nazis, sitting at a table with Nazis makes you a Nazi, and so on.

          but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really

          propaganda doesn’t make it wrong. They DO genuinely have a Nazi problem, see far-right Azov movement. Would you agree that is a problem? Or do you assert that is fake, and the movement never happened or something?

          https://www.theleftchapter.com/post/total-militarization-the-azov-movement-is-colonizing-ukrainian-society-with-neo-nazi-war-ideology

          Is “the left chapter” and hundreds of other sources all Russian propaganda? there is a ton of information online, all fake?

            • Mulligrubs@lemmy.worldEnglish
              77·
              2 months ago

              Why everyone?

              Wouldn’t it be reasonable for Ukraine not to have Nazi military brigades? Is that a bridge too far for you, a Ukrainian?

              Isn’t that an official arm of your government? Are they right wing nationalists or not? I’ve seen them wear SS badges on many occasions, is that AI or fake? You would know better than I.

              I agree, Russia should start in their own backyard, as should all nations. I am against all Nazis and far-right nationalists, in every country, and against armed invasion (like USA’s Iran war and Russia’s invasion).

              So… you still have a Nazi problem, and in your armed forces no less… do you agree? Or are they not a problem for you? Or are they fake news?

              • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
                84·
                2 months ago

                First I’m not Ukrainian. I have family there but I don’t live there or claim that I am Ukrainian. Secondly having groups like that exists everywhere, it doesn’t magically give a country a reason to invade and kill civilians. Or do you think that’s ok because a group existed?

                The Azov regiment had a past, but that’s no longer the case. It hasn’t been that way for more than a decade now. In fact, they didn’t even pull 2% of the votes. AfD pulls way more than that and has an actual voice in Germany, why isn’t France marching into Germany and de-nazifying them?

                https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20220325-azov-regiment-takes-centre-stage-in-ukraine-propaganda-war

                So I’ll ask again, do you think that a country should be invaded and it’s civilians targeted and killed because there are white supremacists/kkk/neonazis/racist/etc. In the military ranks?

                All countries have far right shit heels, it’s not going to magically go away, and probably will never go away, but it doesn’t give another country the right to invade and kill civilians.

                You’re just repeating russian propaganda.

                PS…you tankies need to stick with .ml or something, jumping to other instances gets annoying having to tag you when you show up.

          • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
            3013·
            2 months ago

            https://hexbear.net/post/253926

            I dunno what instance you think I’m talking about but literally hexbear users saying shit like:

            “(but also, the ukrainian state genuinely has a nazi problem, not that russia’s invasion had anything to do with that really).”

            Is not pro Ukrainian, it’s russian propaganda.

            You might need to check and see if the hexbear I’m talking about is the same one you are thinking of.

            I’m not here discussing your support for Ukrainians, I have family in Ukraine, so thank you for taking refugees in.

              • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
                167·
                2 months ago

                https://hexbear.net/post/228858

                Good, fuck Ukraine and their victim bullshit, the entire USSR was affected by the Soviet Famine of the 1930s, and relative to their population it wasn’t even the Ukrainians, but the people of Kazakhstan that lost the most people, yet you never hear them be this fucking obnoxious and claim they were “genocided”. The “Holodomor” was not a genocide, it’s Nazi propaganda.

                You’re blind if you think they’re pro-ukrainian there.

                It takes 2 seconds to find shit like this all over hexbear.

                Hexbear is trash and a stain on the fediverse. They give it a bad name and is why the mass majority of instances have defederated from them.

      • Auth@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1110·
        2 months ago

        No its not good enough. They’ve done far more damage to Palestine by advocating against Harris in 2024.