• interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml
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    Yes I mean tls certs as those control what dns records are considered valid. The Eu should control which tls are considered valid within its territory and that should be considetedpart of their security apparatus. It’s crazy irresponsible to have left that up to unaccountable private foreign entities. This is what would make it difficult to control their own independant version of the dns namespace.

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      1 day ago

      No. At the end of the day, I control which certificates I consider valid. Browsers just choose the defaults. There is no way I quietly let some government usurp that power, considering how easy to abuse it is.

      Yes I mean tls certs as those control what dns records are considered valid.

      No they don’t. That is not what TLS really does. But I guess close enough.

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          9 hours ago

          Even more reason to have relatively neutral organizations transparently curate the list of trusted CAs. While I am sure governments also closely monitor the process and would step in if they deemed it a threat.

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            5 hours ago

            Google is a threat. They should know they can be subverted if they continue in their ways with the questionably ethical human experimentation (for instance, undisclosed A/B testing including full context)

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                  4 hours ago

                  So we come full circle. The government having the ability to impersonate a site is exactly what I believe must not happen.

                  If the EU wants to create search.eu or any other search site, more power to them. I certainly wouldn’t use it, but hey, if you want to trust them, you can.

                  If they want to block google search… Eeeeh… I guess that is fine?

                  But they shouldn’t be able to create a fake certificate for google.com or any site for that matter, not only allowing them to impersonate the site, but also intercept encrypted traffic between users and that site.

                  So no. Governments should not control the TLS infrastructure.