But if i keep my empty beer cans in the car, I can get in trouble for an open container! The law of the land requires me to throw my beer cans in a ditch.
In many places, you can get fined for littering. Even if it might not be very likely, it’s more punishment than you’ll receive for not returning a shopping cart (unless the place uses carts with inbuilt deposits).
It’s similar to potential energy. Like leaving the cart there adds potential chaos. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night thinking the damage that cart could be doing.
Some people also torture animals for fun. The bar needs to be higher. The point of the shopping cart test is low stakes, no one important is watching, nothing significant to be gained or lost either way–do you do the right thing anyway, because of course?
I’m sure you’re right for some percentage of people, but most pro life, lib-owning pickup truck patriots really think they’re doing god’s work and saving the world from “toxic empathy”. The less extreme ones just think that whatever the bible says is good, so smite the gays, it’s fine, or even try to save them by praying all the gay away. And the poor uneducated Facebook grandmas are just controlled by fear, gullibility, and ignorance. They mean well, and are totally oblivious to how their actions and words (and votes) really hurt real people.
Yeah this is the real test of someone’s moral compass, when there is no reward or punishment but you do it anyway. The “just dont be a dick” test.
See also: putting rubbish in the bin
well there is a slight gain from it because i don’t like rubbish laying around, so if i put it in the bin, it’s cleaner.
But if i keep my empty beer cans in the car, I can get in trouble for an open container! The law of the land requires me to throw my beer cans in a ditch.
In many places, you can get fined for littering. Even if it might not be very likely, it’s more punishment than you’ll receive for not returning a shopping cart (unless the place uses carts with inbuilt deposits).
I only do it so I don’t feel guilty. So it’s self serving.
In my case, it would just feel wrong to leave it - that’s not where it goes! Sometimes being anal is beneficial to society.
It’s similar to potential energy. Like leaving the cart there adds potential chaos. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night thinking the damage that cart could be doing.
So what would you have to feel guilty about?
I dunno man, some people actively vote to hurt and personally discriminate against marginalized people.
I feel like that’s a lot more definitive.
Some people also torture animals for fun. The bar needs to be higher. The point of the shopping cart test is low stakes, no one important is watching, nothing significant to be gained or lost either way–do you do the right thing anyway, because of course?
No I steal the cart so I am one basket closer to building Voltrolley
Nice move. Never considered this.
True, but this is more immediately verifiable than figuring out how someone votes.
The difference is those people think they’re in the right, no pun intended.
I don’t think they do. I think they feel entitled, and so doing the wrong thing to get what is “rightfully” theirs, is justifiable.
I’m sure you’re right for some percentage of people, but most pro life, lib-owning pickup truck patriots really think they’re doing god’s work and saving the world from “toxic empathy”. The less extreme ones just think that whatever the bible says is good, so smite the gays, it’s fine, or even try to save them by praying all the gay away. And the poor uneducated Facebook grandmas are just controlled by fear, gullibility, and ignorance. They mean well, and are totally oblivious to how their actions and words (and votes) really hurt real people.