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even though you gain nothing
Faulty premise. If I return the cart, I do not need to navigate my car around the cart as I exit the parking lot. This, alone, is a reason to return the cart to the designated collection zone.
You also normalize returning the cart and impressionable people around you will see people returning carts and increase the probability that they will return carts in the future. Together, these increase the probability that on the future, the carts will be where I want them at the front of the store and not all over the parking lot.
Also I get to be smug
Worked at a grocery store growing up, I confirm this meme wholeheartedly! And now shopping at certain retail places, all able body between the ages of 17 - 30 should work on carts for an entire season so one understands the shity criterions.
Before college I worked at a grocery store and initially I bagged groceries and gathered the carts
I always wonder if this meme is put out there by some penny pinching Kroger executive trying to justify paying off more of their bottom line workers.
My perception though is of a small grocery store with like 20 carts max and gathering up wasn’t a big deal…having seen how many the guys at Costco pull at once looks pretty rough on the other hand
no it’s because I’m sick and fucking tired of having to dodge carts all over the place because some lazy Karen thinks they’re too important to walk 50 more feet
What is it with every regional grocery store being owned by right winged pricks? Like I moved from a publix dominated area to a Kroger one and it just saddens me that there are no ethical alternatives outside of becoming a homesteader and growing my own food.
Edit; who’s out here shilling for billion dollar corpos?
“What are you gonna do, stop eating?”
They get off on it I think.
The solution is to be so broke you dont need a cart to finish grocery shopping.
sad hungry noises
The trolley return is the decent human checker of the world.
I’ve always said I was going to run for president on the platform that we have executioners in parking lots who take out people who do not return their shopping cart, but are able to. I think it would solve almost everything.
But it’s kind of like “God fearing” Christians - if they only do it out of fear, not because it’s the right thing to do, does it really count?
Hey, they said sorry to their imaginary friend after fucking you over repeatedly. That’s not good enough for you?
That’s honestly fucking disgusting. Forcing the people to do free labour under the risk of death for massive corporations turning a higher profit from said free labour.
You need to rethink your moral compass.
work on your sarcasm a bit, it doesn’t quite come across well enough tbh
I gain the satisfaction of doing my part to keep society turning.
I gain the satisfaction of simply putting things where they belong.
Park next to it
I park across from them away from the storefront so I can shoot it in like a puck into a hockey goal.
Can’t we please just kill some people?
I take mine all the way past the corrals and into the front of the store where the employees would take them from the cart corrals. I’m just a sicko like that
Always. Lazy assholes leaving their carts where they’re not supposed to go is a pet peeve. I will grant exceptions if the person has some kind of legitimate mobility issue, but that’s rare.
Always. I will give someone a talking to if there is a return nearby and they don’t use it.
I just glare at them judgmentally, knowing there’s nothing I can do to make them a better person.
There may be urgent reasons for not returning a shopping cart, but I think that at most one in a million shopping carts is actually not returned for such a reason. Usually, the reason is quite simple: poor character.
I used to return the cart when the concept was “return the cart to avoid the grocery store having to hire someone to collect carts, increasing their overhead, thus raising prices”.
Then we learned, at least in Canada, that the grocery chains kept prices high after the pandemic well after the supply chains settled down. They even did a second wave of higher prices. They are price gouging so much they’ve never seen such high profits.
They have also made a move to get rid of regular checkout, pushing robotic checkout so they don’t have to hire humans and they can increase their profits even further.
The shopping cart question used to pose itself as “do you help society and return your cart if there is no reward for you.”
Let’s rephrase it. “Will you do free labour for a multi-million dollar company who is laughing all the way to the bank with record profits while some people in society are going hungry because they can’t afford the higher prices?”
I NEVER return my cart now.
The problem is, that the only person you punish is some 16 year old making minimum wage.
It’s not a punishment. It’s part of the job.
If we keep putting away carts and self checking our groceries, that person won’t have a job.
They take in the carts from the designated cart returns.
Why are you working for free for a multi-million dollar corporation that doesn’t give a shit about you? Just leave your cart anywhere. Someone will be along to collect it.
Because I care about the people that work for them. The only person acting like a cold hearted corporation is you. Why have you let their actions steal your humanity? If you can’t bring yourself to help out someone making around minimum wage and then use corporate greed as an excuse, you’re kind of a piece of shit.
Because I care about the people that work for them.
Give me a break. You are pretending returning a cart is some sort of moral high ground just because it’s pointed out you’re doing free labour for multi-million dollar corporations with nothing in return for you.
If you REALLY cared for the employees you’d be standing outside the store demanding they pay better so they employees can get above the poverty line and no longer need food stamps to survive.
What kind of 10 year old child logic is that? Unless I can devote my life to a cause there is no point in making anything better? It seems like you’ve crafted a world view where you get to act like a conservative asshat but with the smugness of a Hasan type loser. So glad I don’t know someone like you irl.
Why stop there? You could leave a bunch of little messes around the store so the wage slaves have plenty to do.
If they keep purging human workers over profits, I just might.
Being lazy under the guise of helping people get jobs?? Gimme a fucking break 😂. Lemmy never ceases to amaze me
Massive grocery chains don’t give a shit about you. They are happily starving society for more profit.
If you think taking your stupid cart back is some sort of noble deed, you’re a sucker. All you’re doing is helping the CEO keep his overhead down.
This just changed my mind on the trolley problem.
Yeah this is the real test of someone’s moral compass, when there is no reward or punishment but you do it anyway. The “just dont be a dick” test.
See also: putting rubbish in the bin
well there is a slight gain from it because i don’t like rubbish laying around, so if i put it in the bin, it’s cleaner.
But if i keep my empty beer cans in the car, I can get in trouble for an open container! The law of the land requires me to throw my beer cans in a ditch.
In many places, you can get fined for littering. Even if it might not be very likely, it’s more punishment than you’ll receive for not returning a shopping cart (unless the place uses carts with inbuilt deposits).
I only do it so I don’t feel guilty. So it’s self serving.
In my case, it would just feel wrong to leave it - that’s not where it goes! Sometimes being anal is beneficial to society.
It’s similar to potential energy. Like leaving the cart there adds potential chaos. I’ll wake up in the middle of the night thinking the damage that cart could be doing.
So what would you have to feel guilty about?
I dunno man, some people actively vote to hurt and personally discriminate against marginalized people.
I feel like that’s a lot more definitive.
Some people also torture animals for fun. The bar needs to be higher. The point of the shopping cart test is low stakes, no one important is watching, nothing significant to be gained or lost either way–do you do the right thing anyway, because of course?
No I steal the cart so I am one basket closer to building Voltrolley
Nice move. Never considered this.
The difference is those people think they’re in the right, no pun intended.
I don’t think they do. I think they feel entitled, and so doing the wrong thing to get what is “rightfully” theirs, is justifiable.
I’m sure you’re right for some percentage of people, but most pro life, lib-owning pickup truck patriots really think they’re doing god’s work and saving the world from “toxic empathy”. The less extreme ones just think that whatever the bible says is good, so smite the gays, it’s fine, or even try to save them by praying all the gay away. And the poor uneducated Facebook grandmas are just controlled by fear, gullibility, and ignorance. They mean well, and are totally oblivious to how their actions and words (and votes) really hurt real people.
True, but this is more immediately verifiable than figuring out how someone votes.
