• Pat_Riot@lemmy.today
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    6 months ago

    Awww, did somebody do something extremely stupid and now they’re gonna get fucked up for it?

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      6 months ago

      “It was stupid” /=/ “He deserved it for committing a crime against the PEOPLE’S totalitarian police state!”

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        6 months ago

        Imagine someone using the same “that was stupid therefore they deserved the punishment” logic with another country attacking some US facility…

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          6 months ago

          To be honest, every time I hear about someone coming to the US in the last year and getting fucked over, my first thought tends to be, “how can you be so stupid as to visit the US now of all times?”

          I’m not thinking they deserve it, but I do tend to think anyone who visits here is asking for it.

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        6 months ago

        He went to a known totalitarian police state to fuck around, which is not just stupid, it’s MONUMENTALLY STUPID and undeserving of sympathy, and now he’s finding out.

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      6 months ago

      John Allen Chau was a fucking idiot for visiting North Sentinel Island.

      The same general criticism applies to this case of the idiot visiting North Korea.

      In both cases, the idiot in question received a punishment that is grossly disproportionate to the “crimes” they committed.

      In both cases, and this cannot be stressed enough: Both men wilfully and proactively worked through a difficult process to bypass multiple STAY THE FUCK AWAY barriers, in order to risk their lives to limit test.

      THC is relatively benign. There is no possible way to get me to debate this point with a vape pen in pocket, in Singapore.

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        6 months ago

        Otto joined a budget tour for 800 euros on his way to study in Hong Kong. He was 21. The company advertises to young people and makes visiting North Korea easy. Here’s their website homepage:

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        It seems to Me that Otto wasn’t very proactive at all. He was a 21 year old who fell for a marketing line. He took the poster off the wall and put it on the floor at 02:00 on New Years Day, after a night of partying and drinking.

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          It seems to Me that Otto wasn’t very proactive at all.

          He chose to travel to North Korea. That is an immutable fact.

          He was a 21 year old who fell for a marketing line.

          Was he from earth? If so, he had full access to knowledge about what North Korea is actually like prior to taking proactive steps to enter the country.

          • Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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            6 months ago

            Hahaha got you to debate this point.

            Anyway, you said he proactively worked through a difficult process. Young Pioneers made it easy for him.

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              Hahaha got you to debate this point.

              It sounds like this was very important to you. Enjoy the dopamine hit i guess?

              Anyway, you said he proactively worked through a difficult process.

              You cannot passively land in North Korea.

              Young Pioneers made it easy for him.

              Go ahead and give me the most compelling invite to North Korea that you can think of. If you are unable to do so on your own, just cheat and use the irresistible ask of the Young Pioneers.

              In return, I promise to give my honest feedback in terms of any changes in desire to visit North Korea.