Fair. So I will fall back on a better source: my butt. A few years ago I rented an expensive razor-saddled racing bike for a few days. The gluteal agony of those few days I remember better than the actual cycling. Never again.
The thing is if you would’ve stuck with that setup for a month or 2 (assuming a not overweight person, and the saddle being correctly sized/ the whole bike fit being correctish ) the agony would have most likely subsided. And it likely wouldn’t have existed if you had built up/ trained yourself to it in smaller steps. Starting with rides as short as 15min.
It’s almost like saying running 10km is impossible after your first run in years. Or hitting the bullseye in dart is impossible after your first game. The saddle requires training. The position and movements on the bike require training. Because if not trained your body will be sore, if you overdo it.
Yeah, sure, that was my point. The most uncomfortable shoes are usually fine once you’ve worn them in. But the non-washboard saddle on my e-bike was not uncomfortable to start with. It didn’t hurt after the first 3 hours and it doesn’t hurt 1500km later.
Unlike uncomfortable shoes the saddles have a point, not chafing/ allowing for the pedalling movement while also supporting part of the riders weight.
Wide/cushiony saddles prioritize comfort of the latter point over the former. They will support more of the riders weight more comfortably, while neglecting the comfort of the movements of the rider. So on shorter and easier rides the cushion saddle is fine, the longer you go the more such a saddle will cause discomfort.
If your saddle works for you by God keep using it, im just trying to explain why other people use different ones.
Fair enough. But as you concede, this is all pretty subjective, which is why I objected to the “razor saddles are actually better for you” talking point which always comes from (coincidentally washboard-habituated) serious cyclists. I too am a serious cyclist, I’ve ridden all kinds of saddles, from razor washboards to recumbents. And as it happens, the most comfortable yet (recumbent aside), on which I’ve ridden 1500 km this year, including a bunch of 80 km stages, was what you dismiss as a “cushion saddle” that “will cause discomfort”. It just doesn’t. So this is all just anecdote.
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Fair. So I will fall back on a better source: my butt. A few years ago I rented an expensive razor-saddled racing bike for a few days. The gluteal agony of those few days I remember better than the actual cycling. Never again.
The thing is if you would’ve stuck with that setup for a month or 2 (assuming a not overweight person, and the saddle being correctly sized/ the whole bike fit being correctish ) the agony would have most likely subsided. And it likely wouldn’t have existed if you had built up/ trained yourself to it in smaller steps. Starting with rides as short as 15min.
It’s almost like saying running 10km is impossible after your first run in years. Or hitting the bullseye in dart is impossible after your first game. The saddle requires training. The position and movements on the bike require training. Because if not trained your body will be sore, if you overdo it.
Yeah, sure, that was my point. The most uncomfortable shoes are usually fine once you’ve worn them in. But the non-washboard saddle on my e-bike was not uncomfortable to start with. It didn’t hurt after the first 3 hours and it doesn’t hurt 1500km later.
Unlike uncomfortable shoes the saddles have a point, not chafing/ allowing for the pedalling movement while also supporting part of the riders weight.
Wide/cushiony saddles prioritize comfort of the latter point over the former. They will support more of the riders weight more comfortably, while neglecting the comfort of the movements of the rider. So on shorter and easier rides the cushion saddle is fine, the longer you go the more such a saddle will cause discomfort.
If your saddle works for you by God keep using it, im just trying to explain why other people use different ones.
Fair enough. But as you concede, this is all pretty subjective, which is why I objected to the “razor saddles are actually better for you” talking point which always comes from (coincidentally washboard-habituated) serious cyclists. I too am a serious cyclist, I’ve ridden all kinds of saddles, from razor washboards to recumbents. And as it happens, the most comfortable yet (recumbent aside), on which I’ve ridden 1500 km this year, including a bunch of 80 km stages, was what you dismiss as a “cushion saddle” that “will cause discomfort”. It just doesn’t. So this is all just anecdote.