• Horsey@kbin.social
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    7 months ago

    I’m not buying a car that relies on a subscription for navigation and lacks CarPlay

  • Poayjay@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Yeah it looks like the Tesla meme is over. Their production caught up with the tail end of early adapter demand. Regular consumers won’t tolerate bullshit like this:

    “three months of free Full-Self Driving beta to help move cars. (Reminder that FSD can’t actually fully drive for you.”

    All the resources that went into the cyber truck should have been making a new flagship or economy model instead of another meme. Tech bros are moving on the new shiny thing (everything ai) and hopefully this is the beginning of the decent of musk into obscurity.

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      7 months ago

      It sounds to me like they still need to learn how to really build a car. This many years in on a car this expensive and I’m still reading about fit and finish problems. The design that makes repairs super expensive after a collision needs to become more repairable to reduce insurance costs. And they need to become more compatible with common user experiences with most cars; there shouldn’t need to be instructions for how to open doors. I get that Musk hates physical buttons, but they make driving safer than looking at a screen.

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        7 months ago

        It’s ridiculous how much they felt the need to reinvent stuff that didn’t need reinventing. I get that you get new opportunities and challenges when there’s no engine and everything, but you don’t throw away everything the automotive industry has found out in the last 100 years.

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          7 months ago

          It’s amazing to me they spent so much time on the truck and there are so many things about it getting reported like the whole model is in beta software version of the car.

    • Jesus@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      I imagine that a lot of the sales slump is being driven by Musks antics. It’s not uncommon to hear “I’d probably buy a Telsa, but I don’t want to support Elon Musk.”

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        7 months ago

        Well, the anti Musk hate definitely helped raise awareness on just how bad tesla build quality is, and the major problems with many of their features.

        The cars themselves would have had major flaws that would still be deal breakers without Musk tanking his reputation. Difference is that more people know about them because of the dog piling that happened to anything Musk related as a direct consequence of his actions.

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        7 months ago

        I think word of mouth on the build quality is catching up. I just had dinner with some friends who have bought one recently and we’re telling everyone at the table don’t buy it: it’s still being developed and is flawed.

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    7 months ago

    Hijacking this cause it’s time to start talking alternatives: anyone like the IONIQ? Probably wouldn’t get the newest model.

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    7 months ago

    Musk is a drag on the company. But an electric car for 33k is what we needed. Especially when the rebates are turning into at-dealer discounts instead of waiting for a year.

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    7 months ago

    If only Musk wasnt Musk i might have gotten a Tesla. Now, Ive been watching to see how Lucid Air performs, maybe grab one of those in a few more years

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      7 months ago

      Lucid’s are way better. Almost mid 90s Lexus levels of build quality and the chassis on the Air is truly a next gen Model S. Lucid was founded by a lot of former Tesla engineers and designers who left for… reasons, to go make their own company.