This is going to be fun watching over the next four years. LOL. You just gotta laugh.

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    They complain so much even when they have exactly what they claim they wanted. They wanted raw milk, they got it. But somehow all the non-raw milk drinkers are “ruining” something for them? Weird.

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      Deep insecurity.

      They see others doing the right thing & that makes them doubt their entire “purpose” or world view.

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      Chicken sashimi is a delicacy in Japan, and so easy to prep at home! Just leave your chicken breast out until it assumes room temperature, slice into thin strips, and serve over rice or with seaweed!

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        At least the Japanese usually use only specially grown and treated chicken for that. Trying that with American supermaket chicken would be a daring idea, to say the least.

        And even in Japan they have serious issues with torisashi and consider banning it.

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      The best way to consume raw chicken is in cocktail form, specifically the pollo colada. It’s like a piña colada, except you substitute raw chicken for the pineapple.

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        I hope that you don’t end up like me and fish. I ate fish for many years until I had some from the student cafeteria that made me sick for days (not only me). Since then I cannot stand any fish or seafood anymore.

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    I’ve noticed lately around me too that “conservatives” will pull out a cig and start smoking it (as a “defense” mode or something…or maybe because I have a mask) & it feels like it’s to take a side in some kind of “culture war”. Killing themselves to “own the libs”. Brilliant.

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      That’s also really weird because when I was growing up cigs and coffee, at the same time, was like an inner city liberal stereotype.

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    Far righters just love to suck those cow pink tities and pretend like they are not furry

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    It’s obvious why they’re suddenly obsessed with Raw Milk. It’s the same reason they were suddenly Anti-Vax, anti-Mask, and anti-plague-control.

    Democrats said a thing, Republicans immediately reply with the opposite.

    Democrats said Vaccines prevent disease, Republicans declared vaccines are poison. Democrats said wearing a mask can reduce the transmission of airborne pathogens, Republicans said masks will kill you and are illegal now. Democrats said “Don’t drink raw milk, it can transmit deadly diseases.” Republicans declare “You can take the raw milk from my cold dead hands.”

    I honestly expect that if Democrats released a PSA against jumping off cliffs onto jagged rocks, because the fall could be dangerous, Republicans would immediately start taking picture standing on the edges of cliffs with the caption of “Don’t tell me what to do.”

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      You forgot the one about gas stoves in homes.

      To be fair, there are so many examples of this lately, it’s impossible to keep track of them all.

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      I said it a million times, if Obama simply came out in favor of lowering the minimum wage then we’d all have six figure salaries.

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      Humans are famously garbage at comprehending statistics, and most Darwin Award winning conservative behaviors are born of it.

      Take any mundane thing that was part of a status quo of a previous era in recent memory. Anything at all. Research comes out suggesting that thing has a small, but non-negligible risk to be quite harmful. So we collectively shift to a new behavior that tries to eliminate the risk. A shift that, in most sane and civil peoples’ opinions, is so unobtrusively small that any theoretical benefit we’re trading away is probably well worth the risk elimination.

      But oh, a certain group of people will bitch and moan and scream and piss all over themselves in rage over how you dared to take away something so integral to their culture and lifestyle! The risk aversion is never worth the vain fringe benefit of whatever perceived quality was lost because the risk is completely invisible until it actually hits them personally.

      Milk used to taste so great! God’s gift to the world! Then we all started boiling it and now it tastes worse! And for what? Because a couple of weak-bodied cosmic lottery losers were getting a few tummy aches? The vast majority of us are all suffering over nothing! Life was so much better when we weren’t all scared of things that won’t happen! We did it for millennia and we turned out just fine!

      Then you point out all the people actually getting hospitalized from pathogens in raw milk, the very thing we were trying to avoid in the first place, and if they even believe you at all they simply consider it an acceptable price to pay. Better to live in a rich and interesting society where you’re free to risk harming yourself and others than a milquetoast one where imperceptible threats have been preemptively eliminated at great cost.

      And then they turn around and work to ban books that mention trans people or ban porn websites to save the children or some other dumb shit.

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        Yeah back in the 2000s my permaculture/crunchy granola/woo woo/socially conservative/Catholic friend liked raw milk because of the health benefits, live cultures, etc., and believed that it was worth the risk that someone, somewhere, might get sick. But he’d be ok though because he knew and trusted His Farm.

        I didn’t agree with him but I was tempted.

        Imo if something can’t be regulated to within acceptable risk, it’s probably too dangerous.

        That’s why Alex Honnold can go free solo a cliff because he’s only risking himself and his family’s future without him, but selling raw milk puts a lot more people at risk.

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          I would. My Dad grew up on a dairy farm and drank milk out of the cow that morning - if I see upon a farm, I’d certainly try it

          Just like on a veggie farm (IPM, no pesticides) I tried carrots out of the ground, flowers off the stem, berries off the bush. It’s a really neat experience.

          However I’d never make a habit out of it, nor try it when it’s not absolute fresh and I knew what was on it. The odds are ok if you do it once under known conditions, but like any other gambling, the house always wins

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      Imagine being so vapid that the extent of your understanding of the world boils down to just being contrarian.

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        It’s much easier than thinking.

        Don’t get involved with people who enthusiastically shit on others’ ideas, while having none of their own. Can’t count how many times I’ve countered a complaint with “Ok, what would you do?” only to be met with those empty eyes that tell you there’s nothing happening behind them.

        Some people just think conversation is defined as bitching.

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          I feel like most of the time they don’t even know the actual implications of what they’re saying, but are simply repeating the thing that they heard on the radio or Fox News. All they know is that the Democrats don’t like whatever it is, and that’s all that matters to them.

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        Maybe take baby steps first, like “you should never cross a street with heavy traffic”, “looking down the barrel of your gun is too dangerous” and “eating poop is nasty”

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    I for one welcome the new natural selection process. Can we do more of these?

    “only eat mushrooms with redcaps for a week to detox your body” “building up infection immunity by sitting in an ice bath of shit”

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      I have lived with lactose intolerance for almost half my life. For a while I drank raw milk, and could digest it. What I read is that while it does have lactose, it also still has the enzymes to digest it, that are lost when it is pasteurized.

      But these days I don’t bother with any milk from cows, I like oat or coconut milk.

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      Yeah, but the second half of this AI-generated summary is crap. Lactose and milk proteins that cause intolerance don’t go away with pasteurization, you get sick with UHT milk too.

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    Okay so they’re not getting vaccinated and now they’re guzzling unpasteurised milk whilst cattle all over the US are dying of this latest bird flu?

    I’m starting to think this right-wing shift might sort itself out

    (Before anyone says, I know this is very bad for avoiding another pandemic which won’t care about how you vote)

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        No, we made the mistake of doing everything thing we could to make them get vaccinated.

        Next time we know better.

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          New ad campaign:

          “You survived COVID, even though the liberals tried to get you to vaccinate. You haven’t vaccinated to this day because you have an immune system. You’re conservative and strong. So when the liberals try again with bird flu, monkey pox, or whatever animal disease they come up with next, just tell them, ‘No thank you.’” Make sure the video playing along with the words shows strong manly men - white, of course - with rugged good looks, wearing outdoorsy clothes, doing manly stuff. Guaranteed to convince a bunch of insecure conservative douchebags not to vaccinate. Again.

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        That’s because the death rate for these sorts of problems is very low and at best is a very weak evolutionary pressure which won’t yield results for many generations. Additionally, the heritability of medical stupidity is very questionable.

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        And millions of “smarts” were so “smart” that they decided they didn’t need to vote again after 2020, and as a result, the “dumbs” are in power.

        So who’s really dumb, here?

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      You don’t really need the bird flu in that mix, even. Pasteurization was a huge public health win.

      What next, fridges are woke nanny state inventions and real red-blooded Americans store all their food in room temperature, especially their raw milk and meat?

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        To be fair since Pasteur we have made enormous progress in refrigeration and supply lines, so if the cow is healthy, and the raw milk is fresh, you should be fine. The main issue is that you should treat the milk in your fridge like something that spoils quickly (like fish), rather than something that can stay in the fridge safely for a week or two. Of course if the cow is sick none of this applies, so it has to come from a trusted source.

        TLDR; raw milk can be okay if you are taking far more precautions than you normally would with milk.

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        Nah, fridges are convenient. That’s what makes the beer taste good!

        There is a definite interest in learning older preservation techniques. I’m not sure how it lines up with political beliefs, though. For any that do, the big trick was salt - lots of salt. If they are above a certain age, it’s likely to do some damage based on the rest of our modern lifestyle.

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          There are some more ways, usually involving fermentation. Us arctic types know some methods. But I get the impression rakfisk, lutefisk, hákarl, surströmming and kiviak would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.

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            […]would have caught on as exports by now if they were actually something humans in general were interested in eating, rather than the descendants of very specific kinds of desperate people.

            That’s the most eloquent thing I’ve read this week.

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              You’re a very specific kind of people. Only you can say whether you’re desperate

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              Nothing to be ashamed about! There’s lots of stuff around the world that some people love but the majority shy away from. All the rest of us can ask is that you enjoy it responsibly and don’t bother other people with the smell. :)

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          Well I am progressive as fuck politically and somewhat crunchy lifestyle -wise. Garden, ferment things, have made bread exclusively from sourdough for about 15 years now, really enjoy fermented foods like kimchi and pickles and sauerkraut.

          The other fermenter in our family is the literal racist uncle, he makes incredible homemade foods, raised me a turkey for Thanksgiving one year, even.

          Both of us came to it from a culinary background, not a political one, a way to get good food. I don’t think it maps well, but there is certainly a subset of crunchy lifestyle people who started out progressive and were coopted by the right wing.

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          Food preservation lines up very well with conservative and libertarian plans. I even know if your number of Democrats that enjoy preserving food. Dehydrating, canning, pickling or all cheap and easy. The more extremes in conservative and libertarian also seemed to like freeze drying. I have to admit I kind of like freeze drying myself but the machine is so freaking expensive and then it consumes so much power, you can literally buy commercially freeze dried food cheaper than you can make it yourself and that does not get better at any reasonable home scale.

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    The cheap illegal labor working on the large MAGAt supporting dairy farms will deliver the raw milk.

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    Because it’s the dumbest fucking thing they could do that doesn’t show immediate harm to them in the short-term.

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      I’m sure it’s usually ok. That’s kind of the problem: if they only get sick 1 in 10 times, for example, they won’t connect the two enough to learn their lesson. Humans are dumb that way, and looking at prevalence of disease in the population is apparently now “woke liberal bs”

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    They think raw milk is natural, but would they still feel that way if they knew how selectively bred all dairy cows are at this point? The DNA of the dairy cow is where the milk manufacturing pipeline begins. We didn’t select for sanitary milk from the udder because we knew it could be pasturized later in the pipeline.

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      These people fundamentally don’t understand nature. We had cows for 8,000 years or so, we existed at least x200 that. So it’s 0.5% of our existance which means it’s a relatively new technology. Even if you appeal to naturalism here it makes absolute no sense.

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      This is exactly it for the vast majority of them. And there’s a minority that have been duped into believing there are legitimate benefits.